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Re: Random randomness

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:13 pm
by Kasey Chang
Just had a power outage in San Francisco. Came back in about an hour... or 90 minutes. Was kinda annoying.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:17 pm
by LawBeefaroni
Kasey Chang wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:13 pm Just had a power outage in San Francisco. Came back in about an hour... or 90 minutes. Was kinda annoying.
Pelosi's fault.



Re: Random randomness

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:33 pm
by dbt1949
What does that shop specialize in selling?

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:08 pm
by TheMix
"Stuff"

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:17 pm
by Daehawk
I thought at first it was gold panning equipment but I see knives so those must be woks instead...so cooking supplies.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 8:08 pm
by Kasey Chang
dbt1949 wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:33 pm What does that shop specialize in selling?
Pretty sure that's "The Wok Shop" on Grant.

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Re: Random randomness

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 8:14 pm
by Isgrimnur
Certainly not a drive through.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:37 pm
by Holman
Isgrimnur wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 8:14 pm Certainly not a drive through.
You never know until you try.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:38 pm
by TheMix
Holman wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:37 pm
Isgrimnur wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 8:14 pm Certainly not a drive through.
You never know until you try.
:clap:

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:05 pm
by Isgrimnur
Paingod wrote: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:04 am
TheMix wrote:
Daehawk wrote:Ive always said GIF in my head. JIF is peanut butter.
Agreed
+1 - I don't care how it's documented or who says it, the word is "G"raphics - That's a strong "G" and not a "J"
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Re: Random randomness

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:56 pm
by Blackhawk
To steal a quote, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Not everyone is entitled to their own facts.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:17 pm
by Isgrimnur
Blackhawk wrote: Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:01 pm
Daehawk wrote:Ive always said GIF in my head. JIF is peanut butter.
Jif is peanut butter, after which they named the file extension. So from the mouths of the people who coined the word, 'jif' is the correct way to say it.

Of course, that argument ignores the fact that language isn't static. We all know that 'house mouse' is pronounced 'hooosuh moosuh', just like when the words originated, and 'thou' is pronounced 'thoo' with an unvoiced 'th' as in 'with.'

So, yeah. Pronounce it whichever way you prefer, and if people know what you're talking about, congratulations - you pronounced it right.
If language isn't static, then there's no such thing as facts in language usage.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:27 pm
by Blackhawk
Isgrimnur wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:17 pm

If language isn't static, then there's no such thing as facts in language usage.
This is the argument I always use! No fair! I claim a technical jargon exception.

Actually, it doesn't bother me that much. The one that bugs me?

program.exe

Is that file extension pronounced as three letters, or is it a single word that rhymes with 'sexy?'

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:29 pm
by Isgrimnur
Ee ecks ee.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:34 pm
by LawBeefaroni
Have never heard it as "eck-see". I may faint if I ever do.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:47 pm
by LordMortis
LawBeefaroni wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:34 pm Have never heard it as "eck-see". I may faint if I ever do.
This. I'd stop in my tracks if anyone called and executable an "ecksee" file. I can only imagine I'd say "a what?" out loud.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:59 pm
by gilraen
Isgrimnur wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:29 pm Ee ecks ee.
That's the only way I ever heard it pronounced.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:59 pm
by Blackhawk
That was my reaction the first time I heard it, but I've heard it from several people now. It makes my skin crawl.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:00 pm
by Isgrimnur
Blackhawk wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:59 pm That was my reaction the first time I heard it, but I've heard it from several people now. It makes my skin crawl.
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Re: Random randomness

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:14 pm
by hitbyambulance
Blackhawk wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:27 pm
Isgrimnur wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:17 pm

If language isn't static, then there's no such thing as facts in language usage.
This is the argument I always use! No fair! I claim a technical jargon exception.

Actually, it doesn't bother me that much. The one that bugs me?

program.exe

Is that file extension pronounced as three letters, or is it a single word that rhymes with 'sexy?'
it's like people who pronounce "URL" not as "you are ell" but as 'yurel'. no.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:27 pm
by Z-Corn
Blackhawk wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:59 pm That was my reaction the first time I heard it, but I've heard it from several people now. It makes my skin crawl.
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Re: Random randomness

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:53 pm
by LawBeefaroni
hitbyambulance wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:14 pm
Blackhawk wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:27 pm
Isgrimnur wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:17 pm

If language isn't static, then there's no such thing as facts in language usage.
This is the argument I always use! No fair! I claim a technical jargon exception.

Actually, it doesn't bother me that much. The one that bugs me?

program.exe

Is that file extension pronounced as three letters, or is it a single word that rhymes with 'sexy?'
it's like people who pronounce "URL" not as "you are ell" but as 'yurel'. no.
URL mountains.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:35 pm
by Daehawk
I agree with the pic..GIF is not pronounced as a J like in the JIF peanut butter. Its a G. For GILF you dont say Jandmother.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:44 pm
by Rumpy
I've always pronounced it as Jif as that's the way it was pronounced back in the early days of Compuserve where it first made its debut. The hard-G pronunciation came later.
Daehawk wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:35 pm For GILF you dont say Jandmother.
Grandmother isn''t an Acronym :P

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:02 am
by Blackhawk
I was neutral about it until I found out that the developers who created it pronounced it 'jif' on purpose. Their in-house slogan was, "Choosy developers choose gif."

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:32 am
by Daehawk
The Most Influential Science-Fiction Books Of All Time

#14 The Forever War by Joe Haldeman (1979)

#2 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea by Jules Verne (1870)

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:15 am
by Jaymann
What, no Riverworld?

Also missing: Gateway and The Mote in God's Eye.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:59 am
by Blackhawk
Daehawk wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:32 am The Most Influential Science-Fiction Books Of All Time

#14 The Forever War by Joe Haldeman (1979)

#2 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea by Jules Verne (1870)
I've only read four of those: HHGttG, Ringworld, Neuromancer, Dune.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:11 am
by Daehawk
Anyone understand why chicken and turkey is so high priced these days? These are the meats we used to buy because they were the cheapest of the cheap. Now days you pay $5+ for a container of turkey and get two sandwiches out of it. And KFC has been the most expensive fast food places to try and fill up on for many years now.

Ground beef is getting up there more and more but I can still get 2 lbs of it for around $5.30. Food is just nutty costly these days.

Pretty soon Ill need insurance and a good co-pay to go to the grocery store.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:54 am
by Paingod
Isgrimnur wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:05 pm
Paingod wrote: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:04 am
TheMix wrote:
Daehawk wrote:Ive always said GIF in my head. JIF is peanut butter.
Agreed
+1 - I don't care how it's documented or who says it, the word is "G"raphics - That's a strong "G" and not a "J"
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I'm hesitant to take my linguistic cues from a peanut butter marketing scheme.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:22 am
by MonkeyFinger
Blackhawk wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:59 am
Daehawk wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:32 am The Most Influential Science-Fiction Books Of All Time

#14 The Forever War by Joe Haldeman (1979)

#2 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea by Jules Verne (1870)
I've only read four of those: HHGttG, Ringworld, Neuromancer, Dune.
The only one I haven't read is #13 Wind-Up Girl, but I suspect I have it in a pile somewhere. :think:

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:49 am
by Jaymann
Blackhawk wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:59 am
Daehawk wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:32 am The Most Influential Science-Fiction Books Of All Time

#14 The Forever War by Joe Haldeman (1979)

#2 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea by Jules Verne (1870)
I've only read four of those: HHGttG, Ringworld, Neuromancer, Dune.
You should definitely read The Forever War. It is actually the first (and best) of a series.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:50 am
by pr0ner
I kind of feel the real estate tax pain of our New Jersey brethren this year, as between a proposed tax rate hike and a big property value assessment jump, I'm looking at a 10.5% jump in real estate tax on my home between 2019 and 2020.

Oh, joy.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 11:01 am
by coopasonic
Blackhawk wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:59 am
Daehawk wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:32 am The Most Influential Science-Fiction Books Of All Time

#14 The Forever War by Joe Haldeman (1979)

#2 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea by Jules Verne (1870)
I've only read four of those: HHGttG, Ringworld, Neuromancer, Dune.
I've only read two and they are both on Blackhawk's list. I read a lot more fantasy than sci-fi.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 11:12 am
by ImLawBoy
I'm surprised that I've actually read five of them, because I don't really consider myself a sci-fi reader. Maybe my sci-fi tastes are just really elite? :P

1. The Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams
4. The War of the Worlds by H.G. Wells
9. Ringworld by Larry Niven
15. Slaughterhouse Five by Kurt Vonnegut
17. Dune by Frank Herbert.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 11:19 am
by pr0ner
Daehawk wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:32 am The Most Influential Science-Fiction Books Of All Time

#14 The Forever War by Joe Haldeman (1979)

#2 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea by Jules Verne (1870)
I've read Hitchhiker's Guide, Stranger in a Strange Land, Neuromancer (several times), Snow Crash, and Dune.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:08 pm
by Blackhawk
coopasonic wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 11:01 am

I've only read two and they are both on Blackhawk's list. I read a lot more fantasy than sci-fi.
That's my issue, too. I'd likely score better on a similar list for fantasy.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:17 pm
by Daehawk
Today Ive been wondering of a tv show or movie series based on the Star Wars 'What If' scenario would be fun. That being what if Luke accepted his father Vaders offer to join him. It would follow them as they team up and get to know each other and their powers and take on the Emperor and bring the galaxy to heel.

Id really like to see what happens and how a Vader / Luke team would fare and how it would differ from Palp's empire.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:51 pm
by LordMortis
Daehawk wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:32 am The Most Influential Science-Fiction Books Of All Time

#14 The Forever War by Joe Haldeman (1979)

#2 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea by Jules Verne (1870)
Why does it say 21 and then show 17? I'm missing page 2?

Any hoo... H2G2, Neuromancer, Dune. (I've seen 20,000 Leagues, Martian Chronicles, War of the Worlds, Slautherhouse 5. I failed to read Foundation. I own but have not read Stranger in a Strangeland and Ringworld :oops: )

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:40 pm
by TheMix
I've read 10. And seen tv movies/series for 3 more. #13 was the only one I've never heard of.