Re: COVID-19 treatment and vaccine update thread
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:41 pm
How is ivermectin dangerous?
That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons bring us some web forums whereupon we can gather
http://garbi.online/forum/
Even the levels of ivermectin for approved human uses can interact with other medications, like blood-thinners. You can also overdose on ivermectin, which can cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, hypotension (low blood pressure), allergic reactions (itching and hives), dizziness, ataxia (problems with balance), seizures, coma and even death.
4 per address. Yes, big families are out of luck.Max Peck wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:18 pm Out curiosity, is that 4 per household or 4 per person? A family with 5 kids, for example, is going to need more than 4 tests.
A family with 2 kids is going to need more than 4 before this school year is over.
I went ahead and ordered. We'll see if I need to sign for them. If so, then that's a problem.Limit of one order per residential address
Well, for one thing, It's a drug used to kill parasites. If used on humans, it's used to treat things such as head lice and scabies among other things, and when used on animals, it's used to treat things such as heartworm. It will never target a virus as it was never designed to do so. What's dangerous is giving people false hope through a false treatment method that has already been disproven and cautioned against via multiple sources, to say nothing of the fact that it's not been authorized for use in treating Covid.
Thanks. Ordered.Zaxxon wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:57 pm Live for ordering now, shipping later this month:
https://www.covidtests.gov
The prisoner headlines? They were giving them 4x the recommended dose. Even if they were using it for approved treatment, which they weren't, it was without consent and in dangerous amounts. This is a huge deal and the headlines aren't really over stating it.dbt1949 wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:09 pm I know what it is and I know it's used on humans as a parasite remover. I keep hearing how it's bad for humans and it's not really, at least to my understanding. Too big a dose is, but you can say that about any medicine. I know it doesn't help covid too. These headlines are just sensationalizing.
Yeah, there's normally review boards for this type of stuff (even prisoners) so I guess we'll get more information as this unfolds. Absolutely unacceptable, regardless.LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:10 am The prisoner headlines? They were giving them 4x the recommended dose. Even if they were using it for approved treatment, which they weren't, it was without consent and in dangerous amounts. This is a huge deal and the headlines aren't really over stating it.
Zaxxon wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:57 pm Live for ordering now, shipping later this month:
https://www.covidtests.gov
I'm sure it won't be below 35 degrees in January and February in the US when these tests are delivered.Smith said the testing fluid within a kit must remain between a range of 2 C (35.6 F) to 30 C (86 degrees F) (as outlined by Ontario Health), making it logistically impossible to mail them across Ontario during the winter months.
“In the month of December, we had one day in Peterborough when it was warm enough that we could have put them in the mail,” said Smith. “The other 30 days those tests would have been rendered useless. And it would have provided a false sense of security for people because it would have come back as a negative (result), simply because the testing fluid was rendered useless by dropping below the lowest temperature that it can operate at.”
Associated WSJ article:Biden admin says it will be distributing 400 million free N95 masks at pharmacies and community health centers, per @SabrinaSiddiqui
The nonsurgical N95 masks will start to be available at pharmacies and community health centers late next week and the program will be fully up and running by early February, the White House official said. The masks will be sourced from the Strategic National Stockpile, the nation’s safety net of medical-equipment supplies.
“This is the largest deployment of personal protective equipment in U.S. history,” the official said. “Experts agree that masking is an important tool to control the spread of Covid-19.”
Smoove_B wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:57 amZaxxon wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:57 pm Live for ordering now, shipping later this month:
https://www.covidtests.gov
So yeah, about that:I'm sure it won't be below 35 degrees in January and February in the US when these tests are delivered.Smith said the testing fluid within a kit must remain between a range of 2 C (35.6 F) to 30 C (86 degrees F) (as outlined by Ontario Health), making it logistically impossible to mail them across Ontario during the winter months.
“In the month of December, we had one day in Peterborough when it was warm enough that we could have put them in the mail,” said Smith. “The other 30 days those tests would have been rendered useless. And it would have provided a false sense of security for people because it would have come back as a negative (result), simply because the testing fluid was rendered useless by dropping below the lowest temperature that it can operate at.”
More than two-thirds of the common side-effects people experience after a Covid jab can be attributed to a negative version of the placebo effect rather than the vaccine itself, researchers claim.
Scientists in the US examined data from 12 clinical trials of Covid vaccines and found that the “nocebo effect” accounted for about 76% of all common adverse reactions after the first dose and nearly 52% after the second dose.
The findings suggest that a substantial proportion of milder side-effects, such as headaches, short-term fatigue, and arm pain are not produced by the constituents of the vaccine, but by other factors thought to generate the nocebo response, including anxiety, expectation and misattributing various ailments to having had the jab.
The White House announced Wednesday that the masks will come from the government's Strategic National Stockpile, which has more than 750 million of the highly protective masks on hand. The masks will be available for pickup at pharmacies and community health centers across the country. They will begin shipping this week for distribution starting late next week, the White House said.
Details were not immediately available on the specifics of the program, including the sort of masks to be provided, whether kid-size ones will be available and whether the masks could be reworn.
The White House said that “to ensure broad access for all Americans, there will be three masks available per person.”
If I can nocebo up a temp of 102, I may just try my hand at being Shaolin Monk.Smoove_B wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:06 pm The "Nocebo" effect:
More than two-thirds of the common side-effects people experience after a Covid jab can be attributed to a negative version of the placebo effect rather than the vaccine itself, researchers claim.
Scientists in the US examined data from 12 clinical trials of Covid vaccines and found that the “nocebo effect” accounted for about 76% of all common adverse reactions after the first dose and nearly 52% after the second dose.
The findings suggest that a substantial proportion of milder side-effects, such as headaches, short-term fatigue, and arm pain are not produced by the constituents of the vaccine, but by other factors thought to generate the nocebo response, including anxiety, expectation and misattributing various ailments to having had the jab.
And the monk had COVID?Isgrimnur wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:04 pm CT Scan Reveals Mummified Monk Inside Ancient Buddha Statue
Hopefully right before the next surge.Fauci says FDA could authorize Pfizer's Covid vaccine for kids under 5 in the next month
Got the result of the test today. 9 days later we know she was negative. Yay?stessier wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:19 pm My daughter (vaxxed but not boosted) had some post nasal drip resulting in coughing designed to clear her throat on Sunday. We tested her Monday morning figuring that would be the worst case and give us some confidence to send her to school. Home test was negative. Today, though, she is absolutely exhausted. Thought she didn't sleep well, but she's still wiped out after school so we're getting a PCR test. No line for the test, but the lab is at 3+ days for results. We have two more rapid tests at home, but don't want to burn those as we can't find any others. Should probably keep her home, but there is no virtual option for her classes. This is not a great situation to be in. Be nice if she really does have it if she came down with some clearer symptoms by morning.
stessier wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:23 pmGot the result of the test today. 9 days later we know she was negative. Yay?stessier wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:19 pm My daughter (vaxxed but not boosted) had some post nasal drip resulting in coughing designed to clear her throat on Sunday. We tested her Monday morning figuring that would be the worst case and give us some confidence to send her to school. Home test was negative. Today, though, she is absolutely exhausted. Thought she didn't sleep well, but she's still wiped out after school so we're getting a PCR test. No line for the test, but the lab is at 3+ days for results. We have two more rapid tests at home, but don't want to burn those as we can't find any others. Should probably keep her home, but there is no virtual option for her classes. This is not a great situation to be in. Be nice if she really does have it if she came down with some clearer symptoms by morning.
It really is...and after all this time.
Elsewhere:Some of the first masks arrived in the Midwest on Friday, including at Hy-Vee grocery stores in Iowa, Illinois, Minnesota, Missouri, Kansas, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Nebraska, and Meijer stores in Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Kentucky and Wisconsin.
Masks will also begin arriving at Southeastern Grocers locations as early this Friday, the official added, and will be available at Fresco y Más, Harveys Supermarket and Winn-Dixie in-store pharmacies.
Mills Civic Hy-Vee in West Des Moines, Iowa, received masks Friday, along with nearly 150 other Hy-Vee locations. Photos provided by the store show employees handing out the individually wrapped packages of masks, with flyers positioned nearby for customers to take home.
At Meijer locations, the masks will be placed on tables near the store entrances and distributed by greeters. Meijer confirmed to CNN on Monday that it has received "an estimated 3 million masks" that will be made available for no charge to any customer who needs them.
CVS pharmacies are also expected to receive and begin distributing free N95 masks in the coming weeks as supply from the federal government comes in, spokesman Matt Blanchette told CNN in an email Monday.