Blood Sucking Freaks Redux. Fin.

[Ralph-Wiggum]

The next morning seemed like every other morning. The sun was bright, the flowers were blooming, and the birds were having sex with the bees. As the villagers gathered in the center of town many were hoping that maybe there hadn't been a killing again last night.

But soon they noticed that one person was missing. After waiting around for an hour, they decided to check on him. What they found was a ghastly sight - a pale corpse lay quietly in its bed. No blood was to be found anywhere. But the two pin pricks on the side of his neck confirmed what they already knew - vampires were about and had gorged on the blood of Remus West.

The villagers returned to the town center. Someone had to pay for this crime. But who would they choose?

It is Day.

6 votes are needed for the majority.

[PR_GMR]

Ohh, poor lad, that Remus West.

It's like he dies quicker in multiple worlds. We shall call it.. Remuscide.

[Genghis]

I scanned tru1cy last night and he was a normal villager. I was thinking that Remus West was a vamp, but his death killed that theory. My next guess is Newcastle.

[pr0ner]

I scanned tru1cy last night and he was a normal villager. I was thinking that Remus West was a vamp, but his death killed that theory. My next guess is Newcastle.

So, why Newcastle?

[PR_GMR]

I scanned tru1cy last night and he was a normal villager. I was thinking that Remus West was a vamp, but his death killed that theory. My next guess is Newcastle.

Excuse me. You're the seer?

(PR_GMR lowers his glasses and inspects Genghis up and down.)

[Kraegor]

I scanned tru1cy last night and he was a normal villager. I was thinking that Remus West was a vamp, but his death killed that theory. My next guess is Newcastle.

Excuse me. You're the seer?

(PR_GMR lowers his glasses and inspects Genghis up and down.)

get a new prescription....

Medium - Each night, the medium can look into the role of any dead player. He will be told the exact role of that player, whether vampire or villager.

hence Genghis' painfully obvious scan result. he only had 1 choice.

[Lassr]

I scanned tru1cy last night and he was a normal villager. I was thinking that Remus West was a vamp, but his death killed that theory. My next guess is Newcastle.

Excuse me. You're the seer?

(PR_GMR lowers his glasses and inspects Genghis up and down.)

He's the medium. It was discussed back several pages when he was about to be lynched.

[Lassr]

Remus West dead..so was it Chaosraven or someone setting up Chaosraven?

[PR_GMR]

Medium - Each night, the medium can look into the role of any dead player. He will be told the exact role of that player, whether vampire or villager.

Can the Medium tell us if a dead person was a powered special? I'm failing to understand the use of a Medium if he can't tell if someone was a special.

[Ralph-Wiggum]

Medium - Each night, the medium can look into the role of any dead player. He will be told the exact role of that player, whether vampire or villager.

Can the Medium tell us if a dead person was a powered special? I'm failing to understand the use of a Medium if he can't tell if someone was a special.

The medium will be given the exact role of a player.

[Genghis]

I do have a question abou the medium's abilities though. I know I can scan a dead person, but can I delay the scan until after the vamps strike? I.e. scan the vamp victim instead of the lynch victim? Or am I limited to whoever is currently dead, i.e Remus and whoever is lynched today?

[Genghis]

I scanned tru1cy last night and he was a normal villager. I was thinking that Remus West was a vamp, but his death killed that theory. My next guess is Newcastle.

So, why Newcastle?

Mainly due to the fact that he was still willing to lynch me after I revealed myself as Medium.

[Genghis]

Medium - Each night, the medium can look into the role of any dead player. He will be told the exact role of that player, whether vampire or villager.

Can the Medium tell us if a dead person was a powered special? I'm failing to understand the use of a Medium if he can't tell if someone was a special.

I scanned tru1cy last night and he was a normal villager.

Is that a little more obvious?

[Kraegor]

Remus West dead..so was it Chaosraven or someone setting up Chaosraven?

neither. irrelevant tangent.

[Bakhtosh]

Maybe "unpowered villager" would be more descriptive...

And there would be no use in the power if it just told you vamp/village...because we'll immediately know if we lynch a vamp (duh).

Unless we have a case where 2 people are claiming the same role, the best use of the medium is to scan the previous evening's kill. We need to know if a powered is slain overnight.

[Ralph-Wiggum]

I do have a question abou the medium's abilities though. I know I can scan a dead person, but can I delay the scan until after the vamps strike? I.e. scan the vamp victim instead of the lynch victim? Or am I limited to whoever is currently dead, i.e Remus and whoever is lynched today?

You can't scan the person who is killed that night because you won't know who's killed until day time.

[PR_GMR]

Medium - Each night, the medium can look into the role of any dead player. He will be told the exact role of that player, whether vampire or villager.

Can the Medium tell us if a dead person was a powered special? I'm failing to understand the use of a Medium if he can't tell if someone was a special.

I scanned tru1cy last night and he was a normal villager.

Is that a little more obvious?

Sorry for the confusion, dear chap. I quite got it now.

I'm thinking I will follow your pre-ternatural instincts and vote for Newscastle as being a vamp.

[Genghis]

Sorry for the confusion, dear chap. I quite got it now.

I'm thinking I will follow your pre-ternatural instincts and vote for Newscastle as being a vamp.

Just an FYI, it is just a guess on newcastle, I did not learn anything on my scan that points to him.

[Austin]

I have mixed feeling on Newcastle.

A) He really thought he caught Genghis in a screw-up and jumped on a vote.
B) He saw an opportunity to get rid of Genghis before everyone had a chance to come out, thus removing our knowledge of the medium and getting rid of the medium at the same time. It was pretty rushed.

In any case I'd like to hear from some folks before voting on Newcastle.

Pr0ner

[Lassr]

Remus West dead..so was it Chaosraven or someone setting up Chaosraven?

neither. irrelevant tangent.

Oh. So why did you pick Remus to drain?

[Kraegor]

I wouldn't. I prefer to allow Remus the joy of slaughtering the village in broad daylight.

[Bakhtosh]

Some random things I found interesting...

Im tempted to say Remus West mainly because people follow him even when their isn't alot to go on . If he is a vamp need to whack him before he can start the bandwagoning. Also because their isn't much else information wise to go on. I am willing to change the vote if more information becomes available.

It also might act as a check to see if the RW/CR conversion happened.

You keep pushing the idea that if either CR or myself were vampires we would have attacked/converted the other and ignore the FACT that that connection is so painfully obvious that using it would be giving the village a 2fer while not using it allows the bad guys to have a sacrificial lamb. You lynch me you WILL find that I am human. You lynch Chaosraven you may or may not find him human, I am inclined to bevlieve he is right now. However, if you lynch CR and do find he is a Vampire and I am still alive you have spent this first day setting up a nice little reason to come after me next. Or maybe both Genghis and Chaosraven are Vampires and he figures that by pushing at creating an overt connection then lynching me my humanity will buy his evil buddy time.

And where have you been until now, young man???

Out playing disc golf, seeing movies, and planning on visiting a woman. Certainly not working. Ugh, work. Ha ha. In any event, I am late for a round of disc golf right now so I am merely going to mention that Chaosraven has never once targeted me on the first night when he was a bad guy. All that means is that he could be a bad guy because I was not targeted last night, but we are not both evil since I am not a vampire.

That was... uh... helpful? Anyone understand this or is it a Michigan thing?

Edit: Take Two.

What I was saying is that every time I get targeted early Chaosraven has borne the vast majority of the suspicions for it. Not a single time has he actually been guilty of it but he has still been blamed for it. Since I was in not messed with last night (unless I was also protected by the garlic spreader) it actually makes him ramp up my suspicion list. Not a whole lot since I am not egotistical enough (well, not that I'm going to admit anyway) to believe I am the prime target so he could be human and the Vampires attacked and converted someone else.

Ah well, need to vote sometime and its as good as anything I have Chaosraven face the stake you blood sucking fiend.

still nothing, but I'm leaning towards

Austin
Chaos Raven
Remus West

[Genghis]

The problem with tru1cy's list is those three always look like the are on the evil side.

[Newcastle]

This is gonna be a ramble. This is really a brain dump, and to pretty much share with you guys my thinking of what has been progressing. Ever since I saw Remus killed earlier today, I have been processing the information through my mind, and runnin with different scenarios. I kind of wanted to see what would happen also today, hence my silence till now.

I think the most important thing that folks need to keep in mind is the vamps ability to scan a target. They have that luxury and can act on it, although a day later. Until we take one down, we have to keep that in mind. Now why do I bring that up. The scan affects target selection. If they tumble on to someone who is of importance that is their following nights target. Or, they might see if they can influence that person’s lynching during the day. Now why do I say that. I bring this up because it could potential pertain to Remus’ death. The vampires are operating on a different timetable than the seer. They have to find out who is the seer, hunter, garlic spewer sooner rather than later. I am not suggesting that Remus was any of those. This brings up a couple of scenarios : remus was a high value target, or Remus death would create “chaos” due to the inevitable connections to CR,

Now back to RW death. I think we can look at it through a smattering of these prisms:
1. Scan from night 1, and was deemed a threat.
2. Remus is a leader and the vamps didn’t like him around.
3. Remus posed a threat.
4. It was an easy way to create confusion by the “did CR do it?” effects the killing would most likely produce.
5. It could set up someone who was mentioned in his posts
6. It was a killing because he was getting “close” to someone.
7. They had not latched on to a “real find” yet, and hence chose Remus.
8. Remus was protected (either by himself or by someone else) on night 1, and hence on night 2 the Vamps decided to home in on a sure thing. (Yes I realize the conversion theory is iffy in some people’s minds, again just bringing up potential scenarios).

For me I think I will take options 2,3,4. And maybe number 1. Not necessarily in that order. But I think it more had to do with his leadership skill and also that it would inevitably create the CR debate.

That's kind of where i am at in terms of why they took out RW.

Also I actually do understand why Genghis wants to vote for me. In his eyes he is innocent, hence why would I try to target him, if his claim was true. It's more of a defensive vote, and you know i respect that. Now, as to why PR-Gmr is voting for me...not sure if i like his herd instincts there.


Proner
PR_GMR
FT Walker
CR
Austin

With th

[Chaosraven]

Newcastle
Lassr
Kraegor

[Lassr]

I'm going to cast a vote for who I think maybe the lay low vampire FTWalker

[Austin]

I'm going to cast a vote for who I think maybe the lay low vampire FTWalker

At least he stopped by to say why he's been laying low. Pr0n3r hasn't. Vote for Pr0ner first, than FTWalker. I'm cool with either one though right now.

[Bakhtosh]

I wouldn't. I prefer to allow Remus the joy of slaughtering the village in broad daylight.

I'm getting a strong Kelric vibe from this post. He's gloating.

Kraegor

[Kraegor]

I wouldn't. I prefer to allow Remus the joy of slaughtering the village in broad daylight.

I'm getting a strong Kelric vibe from this post. He's gloating.

Kraegor

<golf clap>

[Lassr]

I'm going to cast a vote for who I think maybe the lay low vampire FTWalker

At least he stopped by to say why he's been laying low. Pr0n3r hasn't. Vote for Pr0ner first, than FTWalker. I'm cool with either one though right now.

proners high on my list. I'd like to see some posts from them.

The one post of FTWalker's over the last several pages that bugs me is him saying he hopes tru1cy wasn't special when tru1cy had mentioned he wasn't the page before, that just implies to me that he's popping in and maybe not following too carefully. As a vampire you can either not care and let everyone else do the work (as long as it doesn't point at you or your cohorts) or try and mislead by pulling out info to lead in opposite directions.

[Austin]

Well I think we do need to concentrate some focus on a single quiet one to get them to come out and play. I'll stick with Pr0ner for now and see if anyone else agrees with either choice. We do need to be a little cautious though as there is the chance a quiet one is a special laying low and we don't want to push anyone over prematurely. (Still need more than 1 vote/quiet one though)

[Kraegor]

Newcastle same ol same ol. At present the most obvious target. I see no reason to leave obvious targets lying around....

I like how Bakhtosh is targeting me for trying to save tru1cy. It's like deja vu....Kraegor's evil!!! LOOK!!! He tried to save an innocent!!!!

[Bakhtosh]

I like how Bakhtosh is targeting me for trying to save tru1cy. It's like deja vu....Kraegor's evil!!! LOOK!!! He tried to save an innocent!!!!

Oh really, and how did you know he was innocent?

I'm really starting to get suspicious of people who lambast the majority for lynching an innocent. There are exactly 2 innocents who had ANY chance to know that Tru1cy was telling the truth about his innocence:
Tru1cy
and
The Seer.

Which one are you?

[Kraegor]

I'm tru1cy. How did you figure it out?

My joke was aimed at the last time we had the "I tried to save tru1cy. You lynched him you bastard!!" debate.

And I spose I'm feeling on a role. 4 (or 5) votes in 2 games wherein I did not lynch the innocent. How's yer record?

[pr0ner]

Newcastle

[Bakhtosh]

My record isn't great, but inn a village where the bad guys look like everyone else, sometimes you make mistakes.

[PR_GMR]

(PR GMR adjust his Oxford vest, and takes a seat at a corner cafe on the village square. He quickly opens his suitcase and starts keenly inspecting some papers.)

Mmmm... mmmm.. uh-uh... I see.

I've taken a closer look at the events of the past two days. And, it's my accute belief that we're being led astray by an unbeknownst party. These vamps are a bit more clever than first suspected.

It is then that I must withdraw my vote for Newcastle...

... and vote for pr0ner.

Yes, that will do quite nicely.

(PR adjust the Carnation pinned to his Oxford vest.)

[Bakhtosh]

pr0ner's most recent 1-word vote bothered me so I went back and looked at his posts in this game. His in-game comments thus far are in whole:

After a quick browse of the thread, I've noticed that Chaosraven is being MORE chatty than usual with less info to go on than normal (that's a load of meta stuff you're pulling into the early game). Otherwise, nothing else to go on.

Chaosraven

Withdraw Chaosraven
tru1cy

I scanned tru1cy last night and he was a normal villager. I was thinking that Remus West was a vamp, but his death killed that theory. My next guess is Newcastle.

So, why Newcastle?

Newcastle

What struck me particularly is his request for more information from Genghis when he has provided absolutely NO information for us for his own votes. The occasional vote when one doesn't have enough time to expound is one thing, but the history above pushes one person to the top of my list:

pr0ner, we need more than just a name in bold.

[Kraegor]

amusing how another bullshit wagon is rolling by, wherein evidence is virtually non-existant.

/wave

[Genghis]

I somewhat agree, but the problem is no one is posting anything, hence no evidence.

I am at the point where I am for lynching the quiet ones. We may hit the seer, but having the vamps hang back and say nothing doesn't help.