Colonial Boardgame Thread: Turn 3 Action 4 Begins

SpaceLord · Post by **SpaceLord** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:25 pm

I just noticed we're not quite done with Turn 2.

Isgrimnur has chosen Trader. He has four black tokens in the Market. He can ship 7 goods. He needs to decide who to cooperate with for 3 more.

Current Market Status:
SpaceLord: 0
Qantaga: 2
Vorret: 3
Isgrimnur: now 0
El Guapo: 1
Grundbegriff: 1

Then, El Guapo can ship 4 goods. He has 1 in the Market, so he is looking for 3 more.

I've updated the spreadsheet as far as I can. Tonight I will work on the final Turn 2 processing, and the board.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:09 pm

So, there are 6 goods in the market not controlled by Isgrimnur or myself, and we're each moving 3 goods apiece that we don't control, which means that between the two of us we'll move all of the goods in the market. Since as far as I know there is no difference to any of the goods' controllers whether their goods are moved by Isgrimnur or myself, how about we just clear the entire market of goods and give everyone the requisite money, unless they object and say that they do not want their good(s) moved?

So, maybe give Qantaga, Vorret, and Grund until tonight to post any objection to their goods being moved, and then process?

Qantaga · Post by **Qantaga** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:15 pm

El Guapo wrote:So, maybe give Qantaga, Vorret, and Grund until tonight to post any objection to their goods being moved, and then process?

I have no objection (and nothing but gratitude) to any kind souls that wish to move any of my goods to from Market.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:17 pm

Anyone who will do so is hereby authorized to move my goods from market!
This offer is good until explicitly withdrawn.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:25 pm

Sure, move those goods!

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:19 pm

What benefits do we kind Traders get for shipping other people's goods?

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:26 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:What benefits do we kind Traders get for shipping other people's goods?

My understanding is that if we move our own good to market, we get 1 treasury per good. If we move another person's good to market, we get 1 treasury and they get 1 treasury. I think.

SpaceLord · Post by **SpaceLord** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:27 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:What benefits do we kind Traders get for shipping other people's goods?

You gain the Treasury. They move their token from the Market to their Treasury. Of course, if someone is about to play Trader as well, they may deny your request because they don't need you and accepting helps you.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:27 pm

Say you have capacity 5 and you only have 3 goods of your own in market.

If you only ship your own stuff, you get only 3 treasury and 2 cargo bays go empty.
If you ship 3 of your own goods and 2 goods for Bubba, then you get 5 treasury, no cargo bays go empty, and Bubba gets 2 treasury.

In other words, it's a win-win. By aiming for efficiency, you also maximize your treasury. The cost to you is that the guy whose stuff you're moving also gets some T.

In the early game, that's nothing but good. Later, you might not want to give treasury to a foe who, for example, is just shy of being able to pay off his student loans.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:46 pm

Okay. I'm down with getting 7 monies. Load em up, boys.

SpaceLord · Post by **SpaceLord** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:56 pm

El Guapo wrote:
Isgrimnur wrote:What benefits do we kind Traders get for shipping other people's goods?
My understanding is that if we move our own good to market, we get 1 treasury per good. If we move another person's good to market, we get 1 treasury and they get 1 treasury. I think.

If you move your good TO Market, you just get tokens in the Market. If you move someone else's, you also get tokens in there, but they get a benefit of an equal number of Treasury.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:03 pm

SpaceLord wrote:
El Guapo wrote:
Isgrimnur wrote:What benefits do we kind Traders get for shipping other people's goods?
My understanding is that if we move our own good to market, we get 1 treasury per good. If we move another person's good to market, we get 1 treasury and they get 1 treasury. I think.
If you move your good TO Market, you just get tokens in the Market. If you move someone else's, you also get tokens in there, but they get a benefit of an equal number of Treasury.

Whoops, I meant from market (i.e. using trader).

SpaceLord · Post by **SpaceLord** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:04 pm

Counting Isgrimnur's 4 goods, there were 11 goods in the Market at the start of Isgrimnur's turn.

Isgrimnur ships 7 goods home. He gains 7 Treasury.
El Guapo ships 4 goods. He gains 4 Treasury.
Qantaga gains 2 Treasury.
Vorret gains 3 Treasury.

SpaceLord · Post by **SpaceLord** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:05 pm

Grundbegriff gains 1 white token in the Market.

End of Turn 2 Endeavor Phase

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:41 pm

SpaceLord wrote:Grundbegriff gains 1 white token in the Market.

End of Turn 2 Endeavor Phase

Engaged in White slavery? We don't truck with that in Italy.

SpaceLord · Post by **SpaceLord** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:34 pm

Turn 2 Merchant Fleet phase:

Qantaga and Vorret have two Monopolies each, correct?
El Guapo has one.

Gentlemen, you may build Fleets.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:03 pm

I will add a merchant fleet.

Qantaga · Post by **Qantaga** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:11 pm

England will build two Merchant Fleets.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:24 pm

2 Merchant fleet it is

SpaceLord · Post by **SpaceLord** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:37 pm

Turn 2 Phase 3: First Player

Since there is no single player with the most Monopolies, Qantaga rotates to first. I slide into 6th place.

SpaceLord · Post by **SpaceLord** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:38 pm

Turn 2 Phase 4: Naval Forces

Everyone can currently build 1 Navy with 1 Treasury.

I'm a doin' it.

SpaceLord · Post by **SpaceLord** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:39 pm

Turn 2 Phase 5: Privateer phase

Qantaga, please choose whether to place a Privateer somewhere. Notice that several players are positioned well for the future....

Qantaga · Post by **Qantaga** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:57 pm

Phase 4:

I will build a Naval Force.

Phase 5:

Oh, great. I have to be the first one to make the Privateer choice.

I will not place a Privateer.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:14 pm

I'll Navy up.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:48 pm

I'll Navy up.
I'm 2nd in line here , right?
I won't instigate, no privateer on my side.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:03 pm

I'll add a naval forces.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:04 pm

So the new order is:

Qantaga - England (Blue)
Vorret - Spain(Red)
El Guapo - Dutch(Orange)
Isgrimnur - Italy(Black)
Grundbegriff - France(White)
SpaceLord - Portugal (Yellow)

Right?

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:08 pm

I believe it's my turn to make the privateer choice. Who has how many merchant fleets these days? The spreadsheet seems to say that everyone but Grund and myself has two, so I guess Qantaga and Vorret now have 4 apiece?

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:37 am

So, having only 2 fleets and 1 monopoly right now, I think some of these high falutin' countries with lots of merchant fleets need to be taken down a peg. I *think* England has 5 merchant fleets now with 2 monopolies (maybe 4 fleets? Either way, lots). So...

Holland will place 1 privateer on England's board.

Someone should also probably do that for the other high merchant folks.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:34 pm

SpaceLord · Post by **SpaceLord** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:08 pm

How do you make fields in Google Docs text only? I'm tired of trying to figure it out...

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:08 pm

SpaceLord wrote:How do you make fields in Google Docs text only? I'm tired of trying to figure it out...

Maximize your browser (so the whole long menu will show up) and then highlight the column and choose "Plain Text", the final item on the "123" button-menu.

SpaceLord · Post by **SpaceLord** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:59 am

retracted

SpaceLord · Post by **SpaceLord** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:01 am

redact

SpaceLord · Post by **SpaceLord** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:07 am

Ugh, I need to re-do all the calculations, I need to stop updating my spreadsheets halfway through actions.

I'll work on this more Tuesday night.

SpaceLord · Post by **SpaceLord** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:27 am

Treasury Record at Turn 3 Start

Grundbegriff:

Turn 1:
2 Treasury
+10 Financier
-1 (Scientist)Seafaring
-1 Viceroy
-1 Naval Forces
Turn 2:
-1 Viceroy
-2 Scientist(Logistics)
+1 Trader
-1 Naval Forces
-1 Privateer
Total Treasury: 5

SpaceLord

Turn 1:
3 Treasury
+10 Financier
-2 Scientist (Logistics)
-2 Viceroy
-1 Naval Forces
Turn 2:
-2 Governor - Booming City 2
-4 Scientist(Logistics)
+10 Financier
+4 Merchant from Booming City
-1 Naval Forces
Total Treasury: 15

Qantaga

Turn 1:
3 Treasury
-1 Seafaring
+10 Financier
-1 Viceroy
-1 Naval Forces
-1 Merchant Fleet
Turn 2:
-2 Scientist(Seafaring)
-1 Viceroy
-3 Merchant Fleet
+2 Trader
-1 Interest
Total Treasury: 4

Vorret:

Turn 1:
3 Treasury
-1 Scientist(Seafaring)
-1 Viceroy
+10 Financier
-1 Naval Forces
-1 Merchant Fleet
Turn 2:
-1 Viceroy
-2 Scientist(Seafaring)
+3 Trader
-1 Naval Forces
-2 Merchant Fleet
Total Treasury: 7

El Guapo:

Turn 1:
3 Treasury
+10 Financier
-2 Scientist(Logistics)
-2 Viceroy
-1 Naval Forces
Turn 2:
-1 Scientist(Seafaring)
-2 Viceroy
+4 Trader
-1 Naval Forces
-1 Merchant Fleet
-1 Privateer
Total Treasury: 6

Isgrimnur:

Turn 1:
3 Treasury
-2 Scientist(Logistics)
+10 Financier
-2 Viceroy
-1 Naval Forces
Turn 2:
-3 Scientist(Logistics)
-3 Viceroy
+4 Trader
-1 Naval Forces
Total Treasury: 5

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:33 am

SpaceLord wrote:I just noticed we're not quite done with Turn 2.

Isgrimnur has chosen Trader. He has four black tokens in the Market. He can ship 7 goods. He needs to decide who to cooperate with for 3 more.

Current Market Status:
SpaceLord: 0
Qantaga: 2
Vorret: 3
Isgrimnur: now 0
El Guapo: 1
Grundbegriff: 1

Then, El Guapo can ship 4 goods. He has 1 in the Market, so he is looking for 3 more.

I've updated the spreadsheet as far as I can. Tonight I will work on the final Turn 2 processing, and the board.

I should have +4 treasury from the trader action (see above), not +3, so I should have 7 treasury instead of 6.

SpaceLord · Post by **SpaceLord** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:41 am

Prestige Record:

Grundbegriff:
Explore Arabia: +1
Colony in Arabia: +1
Explore Ethiopia: +1
Total Prestige: 3

SpaceLord:
Explore Angola: +1
Colony in Angola: +1
Booming City in Angola: +1
Total Prestige: 3

Qantaga:
Explore E. Indies: +1
Conquer E. Indies: +1
Explore W. Indies: +1 (+1 for New World)
Conquer W. Indies: +1
Total Prestige: 5

Vorret:
Explore West Africa: +1
Conquer West Africa: +1
Explore Peru: +1
Total Prestige: 3

El Guapo:
Explore Mozambique: +1
Conquer Mozambique: +1
Explore new Spain: +1
Total Prestige: 3

Isgrimnur:
Explore Barbary: +1
Conquer Egypt: +1
Total Prestige: 2

SpaceLord · Post by **SpaceLord** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:56 am

Merchant Fleet Record:

Grundbegriff:
2 Merchant Fleet
-1 to Explore Arabia
+1 Company founded in Arabia
-1 to Explore Ethiopia
Total MFs: 1

SpaceLord:
2 Merchant Fleets
-1 to Explore Angola
+1 Company founded in Angola
Total MFs: 2

Qantaga:
2 Merchant Fleets
-1 to Explore E. Indies
+1 Company founded in E. Indies
-1 to Explore W. Indies
+1 Company founded in W. Indies
+1 on Turn 1 Red Monopoly
+2 on Turn 2 Red and Olive Monopoly
Total MFs: 5

Vorret:
2 Merchant Fleets
-1 to Explore W. Africa
+1 Company founded in W. Africa
-1 to Explore Peru
+1 MF for Turn 1 Gold Monopoly
+2 MF for Turn 2 Gold Monopolys
Total MFs: 4

El Guapo:
2 Merchant Fleets
-1 to Explore Mozambique
+1 Company founded in Mozambique
-1 to explore New Spain
+1 from Turn 2 Monopoly in Gold
Total MFs: 2

Isgrimnur:
2 Merchant Fleets
-1 to Explore Barbary
+1 Company founded in Egypt
Total MFs: 2

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:03 am

Also I now have 2 merchant fleets not 1 since I just added a MF from my gold monopoly.