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GreenGoo wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:27 pm While they might be better at controlling their outward appearance, there is no reason to believe they are any better at controlling their physiological responses.

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:30 pm And I wonder if actors are better at passing polygraphs when lying than normal folks. It's all about measuring bodily responses to stress; it seems that something actors have to manage and deal with all the time.

Victoria Raverna wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:29 pm

GreenGoo wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:27 pm While they might be better at controlling their outward appearance, there is no reason to believe they are any better at controlling their physiological responses.

I guess if he is a good method actor then he can convince himself that he didn't do what he was accused to and can pass the test.

GreenGoo wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:38 am
First, what method is applicable to the character "not guilty of sexual assault"? i.e. what particular traits does one take on for that role? "not guilty" isn't a role.

Second, you say that like that can control their physiological responses. What do you base that on?

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:30 pm And I wonder if actors are better at passing polygraphs when lying than normal folks. It's all about measuring bodily responses to stress; it seems that something actors have to manage and deal with all the time.

McNutt wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:25 am Maybe, just maybe, he didn't actually do it.

Paingod wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:21 am

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:30 pm And I wonder if actors are better at passing polygraphs when lying than normal folks. It's all about measuring bodily responses to stress; it seems that something actors have to manage and deal with all the time.

It's also junk "science" that doesn't require a real degree to conduct, just a certification. Anytime I see 'polygraph' in anything, I roll my eyes. You just have to understand how they achieve "results" to defeat it.

... but it makes people who should know better feel a little safer, so it's okay, right?

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Max Peck wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:14 pm

Paingod wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:21 am

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:30 pm And I wonder if actors are better at passing polygraphs when lying than normal folks. It's all about measuring bodily responses to stress; it seems that something actors have to manage and deal with all the time.

It's also junk "science" that doesn't require a real degree to conduct, just a certification. Anytime I see 'polygraph' in anything, I roll my eyes. You just have to understand how they achieve "results" to defeat it.

... but it makes people who should know better feel a little safer, so it's okay, right?

I don't know about actors, but there are concerns that certain types of sociopaths/psychopaths can pass a polygraph with no trouble; if deception doesn't bother you (i.e. you feel neither guilt nor fear of exposure), there are no physiological reactions to detect.

A MOTHER has asked her son’s school to take ‘Sleeping Beauty’ off the curriculum for its "inappropriate sexual" message.

Mother-of-two Sarah Hall, from Northumberland Park, says the fairytale promotes unacceptable behaviour which should not be read to young children.

She argued it teaches children that it is ok to kiss a woman while she’s asleep, which she says is not acceptable.

Ms Hall was reading a school book with her son, Ben, six, which was based on the traditional story.
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She said she is worried about what message the tale, which features a Prince waking up a Princess by kissing her, sends to impressionable youngsters.

The 40-year-old left a comment in her son’s record book, and contacted the school to ask if books featuring it could be taken out of circulation for younger classes.

She said: “In today’s society, it isn’t appropriate - my son is only six, he absorbs everything he sees, and it isn’t as if I can turn it into a constructive conversation.
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Ms Hall said she might not have given the story a second thought, but recent coverage of sexual abuse and consent, including the social media ‘Me Too’ campaign, made her think about the subtle messages which, say says, help create a culture where consent is not seen as important.

Zarathud wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:19 pm Wait until she reads the original story. There was more than a kiss.

The version collected by the Brothers Grimm was an orally transmitted version of the originally literary tale published by Charles Perrault in Histoires ou contes du temps passé in 1697.[1] This in turn was based on Sun, Moon, and Talia by Italian poet Giambattista Basile (published posthumously in 1634), which was in turn based on one or more folk tales. The earliest known version of the story is found in the narrative Perceforest, composed between 1330 and 1344 and first printed in 1528.

The anonymous prose romance of Perceforest with lyrical interludes of poetry, in six books, appears to have been composed in French in the Low Countries between 1330 and 1344.

Zenn7 wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2017 2:07 am Unless she's stating that she's concerned her 6 year old may stumble across a female that has been poisoned and will sleep for all eternity - and might kiss her?

Last week, The Daily Beast published a statement from Chrissie Carnell Bixler, one of at least four women who is accusing the actor Danny Masterson of rape.

Bixler, 39, alleges that when she reported her rape to officials at the Church of Scientology, which at the time counted her and Masterson as members, she was “made to feel like I didn’t matter,” and was told that she couldn’t have been raped by a man she was in a relationship with.
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But Bixler will remain silent no more. “I’m going to be an amazing woman who will NOT shut my mouth when I find out my rapist raped countless other women. I will not shut my mouth when Netflix tries to make us feel like we don’t matter. We DO matter. We ARE important. We will see justice for what was done to us, and is continuing to be done to us,” she wrote.

Masterson, 41, is a prominent Scientologist who currently stars in and produces the Netflix series The Ranch, alongside his longtime pal (and former That 70’s Show co-star) Ashton Kutcher. Though the streaming service took swift action after disturbing allegations emerged against stars Kevin Spacey (House of Cards) and Louis C.K. (Louis C.K. 2017), severing ties with both, it has refrained from doing so with Masterson. “We are aware of the allegations and the subsequent investigation, and will respond if developments occur,” Netflix said in a statement. The Ranch Part 4 is set to premiere on Dec. 15, while Part 5 is currently filming.

NBC News said Wednesday that it has fired Matt Lauer over “inappropriate sexual behavior,” making the “Today” show star the latest high-profile man to become embroiled in workplace harassment allegations.

In a staff memo, NBC News chairman Andrew Lack said the network received “a detailed” complaint about Lauer Monday night. “It represented, after serious review, a clear violation of our company’s standards. As a result, we’ve decided to terminate his employment.”

Lack added: “While it is the first complaint about his behavior in the over twenty years he’s been at NBC News, we were also presented with reason to believe this may not have been an isolated incident.”

McNutt wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:51 am It must have been a pretty serious allegation with a lot to substantiate it for them to move so swiftly on Lauer. We'll get details soon I'm sure.

Garrison Keillor, the former host of “A Prairie Home Companion,” says he’s been fired by Minnesota Public Radio over allegations of improper behavior.

Keillor told The Associated Press of his firing in an email. In a follow-up statement, he says he was fired over “a story that I think is more interesting and more complicated than the version MPR heard.”

Isgrimnur wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:06 pm Lower-case: bam.