Octopus Overlords

One can hope that some of those let go will start a competing company and trounce new Twitter.

Indeed. Musk is desperately trying to stem the bleeding of his terrible decision making by ... making more terrible (and illegal) decisions. He's about to be buried in lawsuits and governmental action. Nothing more dystopian than being let know you are in the wheel of death and it is signed by the non-corporeal voice of "Twitter." The bottom line is no matter how this goes a 50% cut in staff may be the beginning of the end of the company. The people left behind will be overwhelmed with work and be the type of performers who can move on. And many will. I can't wait to read the HBR post-mortem in a few years (if not much sooner).

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1588327845348093952

I would love the other 50% to walk out.

Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:55 pm I would love the other 50% to walk out.

Ditto. Quiet quit would be even better. At least some of the remainers will not want to or be unable to relocate to an office.

Alefroth wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:03 pm

Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:55 pm I would love the other 50% to walk out.

Ditto. Quiet quit would be even better. At least some of the remainers will not want to or be unable to relocate to an office.

Quiet quit at an Elon Musk run company? Lol good luck to any who try that one.

https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/sta ... 0401018880

Yes, Elon, it’s totally “activists” causing advertisers to flee. It has nothing to do with them reading the writing on the wall on how your business decisions are going to drive away huge segments of the user base. You know…they customers they’re paying to advertise to.

Hilarious to me how all these self-proclaimed “alpha” types are all such whiny babies.

It is clearly setting in that he is trending toward laughingstock over this foolish Twitter play. It was a joke to him when he was flying high and thought he'd wriggle out. Now like all narcissists it isn't his own fault. But the true measure of how shitty a human we are seeing here that he is whining while he is putting thousands of people out on the streets.

Skinypupy wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:51 am https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/sta ... 0401018880

Yes, Elon, it’s totally “activists” causing advertisers to flee. It has nothing to do with them reading the writing on the wall on how your business decisions are going to drive away huge segments of the user base. You know…they customers they’re paying to advertise to.

Hilarious to me how all these self-proclaimed “alpha” types are all such whiny babies.

Funny, I always thought activism *was* free speech. Who knew?

There's nothing more American than weaponizing capitalism to press for social change. Live by the sword, die by the sword, Elon.

Did he think running Twitter would be ... easy??

Need a fact check on this:

https://twitter.com/tobymorton/status/1 ... 2881978368


Too good to be true, this validates what I've been saying for a while.

Well, the Trump tweet says it's parody, so I'm guessing you can rate this one as false.

ImLawBoy wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 3:16 pm Well, the Trump tweet says it's parody, so I'm guessing you can rate this one as false.

Figures. But does that mean Musk copied a parody? Does give him parody based plausible deniability? I'm confused.

Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:55 pm I would love the other 50% to walk out.

And for the 100% to start the company that drives Twitter into oblivion.

Blackhawk wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 4:17 pm

Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:55 pm I would love the other 50% to walk out.

And for the 100% to start the company that drives Twitter into oblivion.

Isn't Dorsey already working on that with Bluesky?

Has twitter stock halted trading during the sale to Musk? Is that normal when a publicly traded company is sold? I think it’s been a few days now, maybe longer.

telcta wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 4:38 pm Has twitter stock halted trading during the sale to Musk? Is that normal when a publicly traded company is sold? I think it’s been a few days now, maybe longer.

He took the company private and delisted the stock today.

telcta wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 4:38 pm Has twitter stock halted trading during the sale to Musk? Is that normal when a publicly traded company is sold? I think it’s been a few days now, maybe longer.

There is no more TWTR stock trading. It's not a public company anymore.

stessier wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 4:34 pm https://twitter.com/scottjshapiro/statu ... 0595430400

Can't decide if serious or...

All advertisers have kicked him to the curb.

Jaymann wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 5:11 pm

stessier wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 4:34 pm https://twitter.com/scottjshapiro/statu ... 0595430400

Can't decide if serious or...

All advertisers have kicked him to the curb.

#thatsthejoke

Someone more knowledgeable than me would have to comment.

stessier wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 4:34 pm https://twitter.com/scottjshapiro/statu ... 0595430400

I wish it were an ad free app. Every 5th tweet on the Twitter app is a promoted tweet.

Ad-blocker takes care of that. Most of the time I don't see any ads on Twitter at all.

gilraen wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 5:57 pm Ad-blocker takes care of that. Most of the time I don't see any ads on Twitter at all.

No ad blocking on a mobile app.

Freyland wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 5:41 pm

Someone more knowledgeable than me would have to comment.

Dorsey was advising him during the takeover. They are in contact since after Dorsey left to work on Bluesky. Musk is not making fun of Dorsey. So unless Dorsey backstabs Musk, that would be my assumption, making and ass of u...

Who knew CA had laws requiring employers give 60 days notice before mass layoffs. Apparently not Twitter's lawyers.

https://techcrunch.com/2022/11/04/twitt ... al-notice/

Twitter is being sued for not giving employees advance notice of a mass layoff that began in earnest early Friday. The lawsuit alleges that Twitter violated worker protection laws, including the federal Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act as well as the California WARN Act, both of which require 60 days of advance notice.

lawsuit?
laws?

I don't know the veracity of this but apparently one cure for a WARN violation is severance for the waiting period. So 60 days of pay.

malchior wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:22 pm I don't know the veracity of this but apparently one cure for a WARN violation is severance for the waiting period. So 60 days of pay.

That would make sense. I did see mention of a 60 day severance.

edit: It looks like the Twitter severance policy includes 60 days of salary paid within three months. Not sure if that would suffice as a cure or not.

I've seen it pointed out that right now is that only time in internet history when someone could launch a new platform entirely imitating an old platform and expect (because the of the toxicity of the old platform's owner) that it would spectacularly succeed.

I wish I had money to invest.

Totally. The fallout is beginning. Some people have been posting that they are reporting antisemitic and other hate speech and getting results back in a minute or two saying that the speech doesn't run afoul of Twitter standards. He cut entire moderation teams so this might be a failure of 'ML' based moderation. It isn't that surprising but I'm figuring his true customers - the advertisers are going to head for the hills and avoid the meltdown.

Definitely seeing lots more...questionable posts being promoted. The noise is getting louder and while I was hopeful Twitter would remain viable, I'm actually a bit surprised at how quickly it seems to be sinking into the ocean of chaos.

I read yesterday that Musk has gotten around the 60-day requirement in the past by simply notifying the workers they were to be laid off, then stopping the affected workers from doing anything work-related, all while keeping them on the payroll for 60 days. So rather than severance, they get a paid vacation.

That seems to be ridiculously complex for essentially the same effect.