Social Media Political Lens
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- LordMortis
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I thought he didn't mind people being critical of him or posting satire on his absolutist free speech town square platform.
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It's almost as if people are the problem.
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Apparently Liam Nissan also somehow figured out that one of Musk's most fervent disciples was actually a Musk sock-puppet account. Maybe some others as well.
This may actually have been the bannable offense.
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I wonder if Musk saw that the border is not quite the shit show the Banana Republicans are making it out to be.
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It doesn't matter what he saw or didn't see. He has come out in favor of the "Great Replacement" theory, and he's effectively a white supremacist.
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"Before" is in the PayPal days of the 90s.
He has always been follicularly challenged.
There's probably also a significant amount of Botox involved as well.
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I probably put this in the wrong thread but Musk called in to Infowars using the fake account's name.
LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:42 pm Hey, look, Musk's sockpuppet calling in to Alex Jone's Infowars.
(Last 25 mins or so - this isn't a link to Infowars but a podcast about Infowars/Alex Jones)
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https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/06/tech/ope ... index.html
“We’re sad that it’s come to this with someone whom we’ve deeply admired—someone who inspired us to aim higher, then told us we would fail, started a competitor, and then sued us when we started making meaningful progress towards OpenAI’s mission without him,” the company said in its blog post.
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Trump Sues Truth Social Company Co-Founders to Zero Them Out
Donald Trump has sued two co-founders of his newly public Trump Media & Technology Group Corp., claiming they set the company up improperly and shouldn’t get any stock in it.
In the latest legal skirmish over who gets how much of the hot but flailing meme stock, Trump alleges that Andy Litinsky and Wes Moss violated an agreement about the setup and don’t deserve their 8.6% stake, currently valued at $606 million.
The lawsuit, which was filed on March 24 in Florida state court and hasn’t previously been reported, comes after the pair brought their own suit against the former president in Delaware Chancery Court over their promised stake in the the social media company.
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Trump claims Litinsky and Moss failed to properly set up the corporate governance structure of Trump Media, launch his Truth Social platform and find an appropriate merger partner. That failure hurt the company, he argues. He says they then “began ceaseless attempts to thwart” the blank check deal in the struggle for their respective stakes. In their own suit, the two say Trump was planning to seek millions of extra shares, diluting their stake.
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The Delaware judge, Sam Glasscock III, declined to fast-track Litinsky and Moss’s suit after Trump’s lawyers agreed to avoid lessening the value of their shares. But at a hearing Monday the pair told the judge they plan to seek an order barring the Florida suit from going forward while they litigate claims that Trump planned to target their stake all along.
The judge said he was “gobsmacked” to learn of Trump’s Florida suit — which he filed instead of bringing counterclaims against the two in Glasscock’s own courtroom — and would consider possible sanctions against the former president in the Delaware case.
It's almost as if people are the problem.
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The leopard would never rip my face.
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Video text:
Spoiler:
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Without judgement on Brazil, per se, I do have to wonder why he would shut down X in Brazil but cave to government pressures in China. I wonder what the difference between the two nations is.
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Not just China, but right-wing authoritarian governments all around the world.LordMortis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 12:21 pm Without judgement on Brazil, per se, I do have to wonder why he would shut down X in Brazil but cave to government pressures in China. I wonder what the difference between the two nations is.
Anything Musk says about "free speech" is bullshit.
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"It is not an exaggeration to say that Brazil is on the brink of dictatorship at the hands of a totalitarian Supreme Court Justice named Alexandre de Moraes."
It certainly seems like an exaggeration. This guy was also involved in the Twitter Files.
It certainly seems like an exaggeration. This guy was also involved in the Twitter Files.
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Apparently the Texas attorney who beat Alex Jones just deposed Musk, whose lawyer screwed up so it’s not sealed. Absolute shit-show I’ve heard.
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It's almost as if people are the problem.
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Holy shit, I don't click Twitter links so I didn't know that was a link to Michael Shellenburger.
His credibility is...low.
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I read a little. Musk has quickly become Drumpf'esque in my desire to avoid him.
The difference between the public's perception of this guy and the reality is stark.
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I know this is the "I hate Elon" thread, but unfortunately he did another good thing in standing up to Australia trying to censor the entire world's online content.
"An Australian judge on Monday ruled that social media platform X must block every user in the world from accessing video of a bishop being stabbed in a Sydney church, extending the prohibition beyond users in Australia," noted the AP.
"Our concern is that if ANY country is allowed to censor content for ALL countries, which is what the Australian 'eSafety Commissar' is demanding, then what is to stop any country from controlling the entire Internet?" responded X owner Elon Musk. "We have already censored the content in question for Australia, pending legal appeal, and it is stored only on servers in the USA."
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It happens. It happens quite a bit. It's not unfortunate but it's also not carte blanche to do the shitty things he does either. Of course capitalization is different any I would read his subtext.
Because he is very much about independent billionaire interests controlling the flow of content.Our concern is that if any COUNTRY is allowed to censor content for all countries
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What other reference besides "country" is he supposed to use? Why does Australia think they can censor U.S. speech? There should be an uproar at the very suggestion, instead we get independent billionaire just wants to control the flow of content. I am more worried about billionaires working with the government to control the flow of data. No concern about Google, FB, et al falling in line?LordMortis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:57 pmBecause he is very much about independent billionaire interests controlling the flow of content.Our concern is that if any COUNTRY is allowed to censor content for all countries
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He had to bold any to call attention to the idea that nations shouldn't control the flow of information on app, while he has been using his app to control the flow of information after saying he needed to save the "public square."Moliere wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:19 pmWhat other reference besides "country" is he supposed to use? Why does Australia think they can censor U.S. speech? There should be an uproar at the very suggestion, instead we get independent billionaire just wants to control the flow of content. I am more worried about billionaires working with the government to control the flow of data. No concern about Google, FB, et al falling in line?LordMortis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:57 pmBecause he is very much about independent billionaire interests controlling the flow of content.Our concern is that if any COUNTRY is allowed to censor content for all countries
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That being said, Elon is right in this case. Australia does not have the right to censor content outside their borders.LordMortis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:26 pmHe had to bold any to call attention to the idea that nations shouldn't control the flow of information on app, while he has been using his app to control the flow of information after saying he needed to save the "public square."Moliere wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:19 pmWhat other reference besides "country" is he supposed to use? Why does Australia think they can censor U.S. speech? There should be an uproar at the very suggestion, instead we get independent billionaire just wants to control the flow of content. I am more worried about billionaires working with the government to control the flow of data. No concern about Google, FB, et al falling in line?LordMortis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:57 pmBecause he is very much about independent billionaire interests controlling the flow of content.Our concern is that if any COUNTRY is allowed to censor content for all countries
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Agreed. He's not wrong all of the time and does good quite a bit. It doesn't make me overlook the shitty things he does.
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You guys are crazy if you think Elon is against this for the same reason you and I are against it. His history has more than proven that his crusade for "free speech" only applies to things he agrees with. Everyone else he'll ban, censor, or paywall out of existence. He sees someone else trying to encroach on his control. He's "right" only in that his thirst for power happened to intersect with our thirst for freedom of information.
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Thank you for getting this "I hate Elon" thread back on track. I was worried the OO crowd was going soft.YellowKing wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 6:24 pm You guys are crazy if you think Elon is against this for the same reason you and I are against it. His history has more than proven that his crusade for "free speech" only applies to things he agrees with. Everyone else he'll ban, censor, or paywall out of existence. He sees someone else trying to encroach on his control. He's "right" only in that his thirst for power happened to intersect with our thirst for freedom of information.
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You do know why we hate Elon, right?
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I don't think he cares Musk did the right thing for the wrong reason, he just needs to show Musk did something right.YellowKing wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 6:24 pm You guys are crazy if you think Elon is against this for the same reason you and I are against it. His history has more than proven that his crusade for "free speech" only applies to things he agrees with. Everyone else he'll ban, censor, or paywall out of existence. He sees someone else trying to encroach on his control. He's "right" only in that his thirst for power happened to intersect with our thirst for freedom of information.
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There’s apparently a list of people that we can’t dislike or were considered sheep. No matter what they do.
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I don't think you care Musk did the right thing, unless you can spin it to a cynical reason.Alefroth wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:01 pmI don't think he cares Musk did the right thing for the wrong reason, he just needs to show Musk did something right.YellowKing wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 6:24 pm You guys are crazy if you think Elon is against this for the same reason you and I are against it. His history has more than proven that his crusade for "free speech" only applies to things he agrees with. Everyone else he'll ban, censor, or paywall out of existence. He sees someone else trying to encroach on his control. He's "right" only in that his thirst for power happened to intersect with our thirst for freedom of information.
"The world is suffering more today from the good people who want to mind other men's business than it is from the bad people who are willing to let everybody look after their own individual affairs." - Clarence Darrow
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Because he's a terrible father to his 11 children? I agree!
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No, even then I don't care.Moliere wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:36 pmI don't think you care Musk did the right thing, unless you can spin it to a cynical reason.Alefroth wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:01 pmI don't think he cares Musk did the right thing for the wrong reason, he just needs to show Musk did something right.YellowKing wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 6:24 pm You guys are crazy if you think Elon is against this for the same reason you and I are against it. His history has more than proven that his crusade for "free speech" only applies to things he agrees with. Everyone else he'll ban, censor, or paywall out of existence. He sees someone else trying to encroach on his control. He's "right" only in that his thirst for power happened to intersect with our thirst for freedom of information.
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That's a valid point.Moliere wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:46 pm I know this is the "I hate Elon" thread, but unfortunately he did another good thing in standing up to Australia trying to censor the entire world's online content.
I feel like we have more than just this thread to hate Musk with? It's hard to contain all the hate he generates in a single thread.
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Did you know that it was Adolf Hitler who saved Germany from the shackles of unemployment and poverty?Moliere wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:36 pmI don't think you care Musk did the right thing, unless you can spin it to a cynical reason.Alefroth wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:01 pmI don't think he cares Musk did the right thing for the wrong reason, he just needs to show Musk did something right.YellowKing wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 6:24 pm You guys are crazy if you think Elon is against this for the same reason you and I are against it. His history has more than proven that his crusade for "free speech" only applies to things he agrees with. Everyone else he'll ban, censor, or paywall out of existence. He sees someone else trying to encroach on his control. He's "right" only in that his thirst for power happened to intersect with our thirst for freedom of information.
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Wherein Elron invites more Nazis to the platform:
You get the idea. I don't know how to link, or really give a shit about linking, tweets and responses in proper order.
Bring Nick Fuentes back on Twitter
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He has been banned since 2021, what happened to your promise big guy?
Very well, he will be reinstated, provided he does not violate the law, and let him be crushed by the comments and Community Notes.
It is better to have anti whatever out in the open to be rebutted than grow simmering in the darkness.
You get the idea. I don't know how to link, or really give a shit about linking, tweets and responses in proper order.
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