That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons bring us some web forums whereupon we can gather
http://garbi.online/forum/
Glad you're back as well. We're getting to the point collectively that when people disappear I get nervous. Happy to hear you're re-centered (bathed?) and hanging out.
Kentucky has a Democratic governor, though.Jaymann wrote: Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:29 am Fucking Moscow Mitch. This is worse than poll tax and voter ID combined.
We were doing so well. Even surprising me post Memorial day.When you say "we" are you talking nation or state? Last I saw Michigan's numbers were still headed down but I haven't check recently.LordMortis wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:05 pm My hopes took at hit today. My super rare trip out to commerce saw everyone with a mask, but a few had them around their necks, and I'd estimate 1/3 of people wore their masks below the noses. I mean it's better than nothing and shields me against their talking but it's pretty obvious 1/3 of people either don't know how to care 4 month in or are essentially protesting the mask policies and getting away with it. We can't make it four months of sustained giving a shit about our fellow people. Four lousy months. I honestly equate the vast majority of below the nose mask wearers as MAGAts and further there are MAGATs that have enough sense to still wear masks.
Also our tests per day seem to be decreasing and yet our cases per day just starting to go up.
State.Remus West wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:44 pmWhen you say "we" are you talking nation or state? Last I saw Michigan's numbers were still headed down but I haven't check recently.LordMortis wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:05 pm My hopes took at hit today. My super rare trip out to commerce saw everyone with a mask, but a few had them around their necks, and I'd estimate 1/3 of people wore their masks below the noses. I mean it's better than nothing and shields me against their talking but it's pretty obvious 1/3 of people either don't know how to care 4 month in or are essentially protesting the mask policies and getting away with it. We can't make it four months of sustained giving a shit about our fellow people. Four lousy months. I honestly equate the vast majority of below the nose mask wearers as MAGAts and further there are MAGATs that have enough sense to still wear masks.
Also our tests per day seem to be decreasing and yet our cases per day just starting to go up.
In my experience it is always the democrats who loudly advocate for trash recycling, but it's the republicans who put out the blue totes on trash day.LordMortis wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:05 pm I honestly equate the vast majority of below the nose mask wearers as MAGAts and further there are MAGATs that have enough sense to still wear masks.
Well of course the Democrats don't put out the blue Totes on Trash day. We put them out on the correct day - Trash and Recycling Day.em2nought wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:31 pmIn my experience it is always the democrats who loudly advocate for trash recycling, but it's the republicans who put out the blue totes on trash day.LordMortis wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:05 pm I honestly equate the vast majority of below the nose mask wearers as MAGAts and further there are MAGATs that have enough sense to still wear masks.
Barr is, at best, grossly misinformed and wildly negligent; at worst, he's setting the stage for a sitting president to dispute the results of a an election if he loses.Barr told Fox News that voting by mail “opens the floodgates to fraud.” He warned a foreign country could “print up tens of thousands of counterfeit ballots” and that it would be difficult to figure out which ballots were valid.
Barr has not publicly provided any evidence to support his claim. And election administrators in multiple states have disputed this theory, stating it would be virtually impossible for a foreign country to peddle phony ballots undetected.
Who said looping?Freyland wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:48 pm Bottomless pit and looping video feed is like dividing by zero.
Camera drones. Multiple angles. Soundtrack.Jaymann wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:38 am Unless he were recording himself on the way down, the video feed would fade to black fairly quickly.
Fixed that for you. Because actual castle walls implies a stability that was never there.Blackhawk wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:43 am Maybe, when your opponent is kicking his own sand castle, it's better to sit back and let him go about it.
Maybe. Could be his lead should be in the 20s instead of the mid-10s, I guess. And sometimes I wonder how much most campaign decisions ultimately matter.malchior wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:29 pm This all seems to be a wishful way of minimizing a key weakness. The fact remains that the Biden campaign has struggled to get a message out for months. It luckily hasn't turned out to be a problem but it is a risk. Hopefully it won't be signficant.
Maybe. But I've also seen some analysis indicating that Trump's poll numbers go down when he gets more media attention. Which would suggest that you don't want to take media attention away from Trump.malchior wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:44 pm I think that message is the baseline. That said, it is hard to quantify invisibility but he has to be the least visible Presidential nominee in decades...maybe ever in the modern era. Which is striking when Trump's most visible mechanism for presence is free (Twitter) or free press coverage. We will see what happens as the 'convention' comes and goes.
Not to mention Werewolf, Secret Hitler, Battlestar Galactica, Diplomacy and other hidden identity and alliance building games.YellowKing wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:20 pm Letting others tear themselves apart while you quietly fly under the radar building alliances is a valid strategy that has worked for Survivor, Big Brother, etc. Maybe Biden is beating Trump at his own reality show.
I think that's a reasonable argument, at least at this point. I think this kind of validates Biden's core argument in the Democratic primary, FWIW, since Sanders wouldn't be running as a "return to normal" candidate.YellowKing wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:56 pm The Biden nomination and lead was kind of inevitable, assuming in hindsight that "Trump fatigue" was an actual thing that most of the country suffered from. There was this urge for a "return to normal," and the easiest way back to that was the safe pick. I'm not sure it makes any difference what he does or doesn't do.
Right but you need a long game here. Let's say he wins but hasn't communicated anything but good guy/not Trump. What has he run on? What can he get done? Maybe that is immaterial because the Republicans will sabotage everything but passive only goes so far when you are talking about the Presidency. I think giving him the 'convention' is fair but he hasn't eased any of my concerns about him at all. I'm getting a real Buchanan vibe here.El Guapo wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:50 pmMaybe. But I've also seen some analysis indicating that Trump's poll numbers go down when he gets more media attention. Which would suggest that you don't want to take media attention away from Trump.malchior wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:44 pm I think that message is the baseline. That said, it is hard to quantify invisibility but he has to be the least visible Presidential nominee in decades...maybe ever in the modern era. Which is striking when Trump's most visible mechanism for presence is free (Twitter) or free press coverage. We will see what happens as the 'convention' comes and goes.
This is the major disconnect here. What does "return to normal" mean? It's like saying don't worry about the dysfunction. Biden needs a plan or in 4 years were going to be right here again. He can't run on 'I'm a good guy' and not express a desire to address the many significant problems we face. We're well past the point of kicking a can here.El Guapo wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:02 pmI think that's a reasonable argument, at least at this point. I think this kind of validates Biden's core argument in the Democratic primary, FWIW, since Sanders wouldn't be running as a "return to normal" candidate.YellowKing wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:56 pm The Biden nomination and lead was kind of inevitable, assuming in hindsight that "Trump fatigue" was an actual thing that most of the country suffered from. There was this urge for a "return to normal," and the easiest way back to that was the safe pick. I'm not sure it makes any difference what he does or doesn't do.
I'd call it the Captain Edward Smith platform. If he maintains a huge lead, why not spend down some of it now to stake a position on a reasonable reform? That is the opportunity I see.Jaymon wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:06 pm Trump is a reactionist. if Biden does something, or announces a policy, or takes a stand, then Trump would jump all over that with tweets and executive orders and insults and whatnot. if Biden does none of those things, Trump has no leverage. It seems like a calculated strategy, a mix of don't rock the boat, and tortise vs hare.
its like hey, did you hear what Bidens up to? Nobody says that, because its the same thing he was up to yesterday and last week and last month. Its the stability platform. And I think its working.
I mean, he's got a super progressive platform. So...that's what he's going to do. Probably more progressive than would be ultimately approved by Congress (assuming that the Democrats take the Senate; if they don't it doesn't matter much what his platform is).malchior wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:02 pmRight but you need a long game here. Let's say he wins but hasn't communicated anything but good guy/not Trump. What has he run on? What can he get done? Maybe that is immaterial because the Republicans will sabotage everything but passive only goes so far when you are talking about the Presidency. I think giving him the 'convention' is fair but he hasn't eased any of my concerns about him at all. I'm getting a real Buchanan vibe here.El Guapo wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:50 pmMaybe. But I've also seen some analysis indicating that Trump's poll numbers go down when he gets more media attention. Which would suggest that you don't want to take media attention away from Trump.malchior wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:44 pm I think that message is the baseline. That said, it is hard to quantify invisibility but he has to be the least visible Presidential nominee in decades...maybe ever in the modern era. Which is striking when Trump's most visible mechanism for presence is free (Twitter) or free press coverage. We will see what happens as the 'convention' comes and goes.
This is the major disconnect here. What does "return to normal" mean? It's like saying don't worry about the dysfunction. Biden needs a plan or in 4 years were going to be right here again. He can't run on 'I'm a good guy' and not express a desire to address the many significant problems we face. We're well past the point of kicking a can here.El Guapo wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:02 pmI think that's a reasonable argument, at least at this point. I think this kind of validates Biden's core argument in the Democratic primary, FWIW, since Sanders wouldn't be running as a "return to normal" candidate.YellowKing wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:56 pm The Biden nomination and lead was kind of inevitable, assuming in hindsight that "Trump fatigue" was an actual thing that most of the country suffered from. There was this urge for a "return to normal," and the easiest way back to that was the safe pick. I'm not sure it makes any difference what he does or doesn't do.