That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons bring us some web forums whereupon we can gather
http://garbi.online/forum/
The US approach to rapid tests sure seems like something a rich investment firm ceo with no training in public health might come up with
I love reading the occasional article about the illicit market for raw milk. I think Schitt’s Creek had an episode about it too.Smoove_B wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:30 am People clamor for raw milk so you might be on to something!
Also, this is a bullseye:
https://twitter.com/wsbgnl/status/1480736104202465281
The US approach to rapid tests sure seems like something a rich investment firm ceo with no training in public health might come up with
I don't disagree exactly, but my understanding is that the core problem (other than America's preexisting lack of a social safety net and disregard for workers and their safety) is that the FDA botched the rapid test approval process - is that right / fair?Smoove_B wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:30 am People clamor for raw milk so you might be on to something!
Also, this is a bullseye:
https://twitter.com/wsbgnl/status/1480736104202465281
The US approach to rapid tests sure seems like something a rich investment firm ceo with no training in public health might come up with
That's part of it. But there's no reason the feds couldn't have said waaaaaaay back in May that we need produce more tests and paid companies (under emergency production) to do so - with the idea that the USPS could deliver [X] of tests to each household a week or give them to states and locals to distribute freely. "But people are selling them", you say - that's true. Because supply is scarce. I read a story yesterday about a school district that sent tests home for kids and a good number of them ended up on eBay. However, if they were producing them and absolutely blasting them out to everyone there wouldn't be a need to sell them - easier to get them for free on street corners.El Guapo wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:41 am I don't disagree exactly, but my understanding is that the core problem (other than America's preexisting lack of a social safety net and disregard for workers and their safety) is that the FDA botched the rapid test approval process - is that right / fair?
Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:21 am If you're relying on pee to help you avoid Covid, urine trouble.
Wee good joke there, RW.Unagi wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:16 pmRalph-Wiggum wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:21 am If you're relying on pee to help you avoid Covid, urine trouble.
Yep - it's crazy to me how badly the administration missed the boat on this. And they had public health experts talking about this problem over a year ago. Many were complaining about the FDA and asking for a rapid approval process. Naturally that was a Trump administration position at the time but Biden didn't fix it. Cato actually had a good piece I read a few months back that talked about the regulatory failure (with the usual dash of absurd leaps to why all regulation is bad).Smoove_B wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:49 amThat's part of it. But there's no reason the feds couldn't have said waaaaaaay back in May that we need produce more tests and paid companies (under emergency production) to do so - with the idea that the USPS could deliver [X] of tests to each household a week or give them to states and locals to distribute freely. "But people are selling them", you say - that's true. Because supply is scarce. I read a story yesterday about a school district that sent tests home for kids and a good number of them ended up on eBay. However, if they were producing them and absolutely blasting them out to everyone there wouldn't be a need to sell them - easier to get them for free on street corners.
Also I hate to inject basic economics but it doesn't help with the supply/demand problem that the FDA caused with their processes. So people have to find scarce tests, file paperwork with the insurers, deal with their bullshit, and then the cost will be passed ultimately along to the government and employers. Cool. Cool. Cool. It's better than nothing but it was a kludge and one they cooked up at the last minute because...of so many reasons. A government that is at its core dysfunctional and politely corrupt.Now we're back to mandating that insurers must cover tests, which is helpful. But completely ignoring that not everyone has insurance. And that you still need to (1) find and (2) pay out of pocket first. And the people that likely need to get tested the most are probably at the center of the Venn Diagram between lacking insurance and greatest risk of exposure. Why do we keep involving the middle-man (insurance)? Why not just blast out half a dozen tests a week to each household? Why is this so difficult as we start our 3rd goddamn year of the pandemic??
Except they are failing at this promise too. As of 3 days ago they still don't even have a contract in place on the testing. Instead they are pivoting to taking credit for general supply increases. That's nice and all but looks like we're stuck with DIY pandemic response.I'm super excited that Biden said he's going to make 500+ million tests available to homes that ask. This would have been great back in October, not during the peak of Omicron. Same with providing n95 masks. After cocking up the message back in May of 2021, now - as the virus is surging beyond comprehension we're finally going to start looking into maybe making masks available to everyone?
I heard this on the news this morning.Smoove_B wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:49 am I'm super excited that Biden said he's going to make 500+ million tests available to homes that ask. This would have been great back in October, not during the peak of Omicron. Same with providing n95 masks. After cocking up the message back in May of 2021, now - as the virus is surging beyond comprehension we're finally going to start looking into maybe making masks available to everyone?
No idea how it will work yet.WASHINGTON, Jan 10 (Reuters) - Insurance companies will be required to cover eight over-the-counter at-home coronavirus tests per person each month starting Saturday, the Biden administration said, expanding access to highly sought-after kits as Americans grapple with a surge in coronavirus cases.
You purchase them retail (because they are so readily available right now) and then submit proof of purchase to your insurer for them to review and approve. They send you a check (or wire you money) upon review. I'm sure it will work exactly the same way it does now when you purchase things and need to ask your insurance company for reimbursement.
It obviously didn't help her not get it, but it probably has helped with the symptoms (but of course, there's no way to know for sure).dbt1949 wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:29 pm On a personal note my wife had a booster shot and it didn't help her.
"Mandatory insurance coverage" is a great way to get people to pay for things they don't want to.LordMortis wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:39 pmI heard this on the news this morning.Smoove_B wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:49 am I'm super excited that Biden said he's going to make 500+ million tests available to homes that ask. This would have been great back in October, not during the peak of Omicron. Same with providing n95 masks. After cocking up the message back in May of 2021, now - as the virus is surging beyond comprehension we're finally going to start looking into maybe making masks available to everyone?
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/insure ... 022-01-10/
No idea how it will work yet.WASHINGTON, Jan 10 (Reuters) - Insurance companies will be required to cover eight over-the-counter at-home coronavirus tests per person each month starting Saturday, the Biden administration said, expanding access to highly sought-after kits as Americans grapple with a surge in coronavirus cases.
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Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:44 pmIt obviously didn't help her not get it, but it probably has helped with the symptoms (but of course, there's no way to know for sure).dbt1949 wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:29 pm On a personal note my wife had a booster shot and it didn't help her.
That doesn't really tell you much, because the disease doesn't start from the same baseline for two people. It's possible that she would have had it much worse without the booster while you would have had virtually no symptoms with the booster. You'll just never know, but the safer bet is to go ahead and boost.dbt1949 wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:21 pmRalph-Wiggum wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:44 pmIt obviously didn't help her not get it, but it probably has helped with the symptoms (but of course, there's no way to know for sure).dbt1949 wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:29 pm On a personal note my wife had a booster shot and it didn't help her.
Our symptoms are pretty much the same and I didn't have a booster.
Ok everyone, enjoy COVID.But the new order does not include any new restrictions and the governor has also said he doesn’t intend to issue any new rules.
You're right. But you can't give a state of the union address and declare a continued public health emergency over a communicable disease and then do absolutely nothing to stop it from spreading. What is the goddamn point? To keep some additional administrative powers? Whoopity fucking do.Zaxxon wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:09 pm I think it's pretty clear at this point that under no circumstances will any wide-scale restrictions be implemented that are not currently in place.
Sure can. The point is simply to try to goose popularity #s and odds of the next election.Smoove_B wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:13 pmYou're right. But you can't give a state of the union address and declare a continued public health emergency over a communicable disease and then do absolutely nothing to stop it from spreading. What is the goddamn point? To keep some additional administrative powers? Whoopity fucking do.Zaxxon wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:09 pm I think it's pretty clear at this point that under no circumstances will any wide-scale restrictions be implemented that are not currently in place.
Fun thread:All time now is just space between the next surge with our current plan. Infuriating beyond words. Dexter became a lumberjack right? That's what I'm getting ready to do. Just up and disappear into Canada to swing an axe.
There's no next election. I get what Smoove_B is saying. Pointing out a problem and saying let's continue doing the thing not working is useless leadership.Zaxxon wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:16 pmSure can. The point is simply to try to goose popularity #s and odds of the next election.Smoove_B wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:13 pmYou're right. But you can't give a state of the union address and declare a continued public health emergency over a communicable disease and then do absolutely nothing to stop it from spreading. What is the goddamn point? To keep some additional administrative powers? Whoopity fucking do.Zaxxon wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:09 pm I think it's pretty clear at this point that under no circumstances will any wide-scale restrictions be implemented that are not currently in place.
Oh, I get it, too. Useless leadership is kind of our thing.malchior wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:17 pmThere's no next election. I get what Smoove_B is saying. Pointing out a problem and saying let's continue doing the thing not working is useless leadership.Zaxxon wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:16 pmSure can. The point is simply to try to goose popularity #s and odds of the next election.Smoove_B wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:13 pmYou're right. But you can't give a state of the union address and declare a continued public health emergency over a communicable disease and then do absolutely nothing to stop it from spreading. What is the goddamn point? To keep some additional administrative powers? Whoopity fucking do.Zaxxon wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:09 pm I think it's pretty clear at this point that under no circumstances will any wide-scale restrictions be implemented that are not currently in place.
Among the 45% of Americans who have private insurance, those who can access participating pharmacies will only need to show their insurance card -- the insurers will then pay the pharmacy directly. Socialized capitalism FTW!Smoove_B wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:49 am you still need to (1) find and (2) pay out of pocket first.
NL?malchior wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:31 pm Totally. That part of why I'm on the opposite side of the Tweet above. I get why someone would definitely regret moving here. I actually started having a serious conversation with my wife about leaving. What good is foresight if we don't act on it? Trouble naturally is emigration is tough in your mid-40s even without children and during a pandemic it is basically a no go. It'd take extraordinary support and I don't have that right now. I had the slight chance at my last job to relocate to NL and I'm kicking myself at the moment.
I'm betting Netherlands.El Guapo wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:33 pmNL?malchior wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:31 pm Totally. That part of why I'm on the opposite side of the Tweet above. I get why someone would definitely regret moving here. I actually started having a serious conversation with my wife about leaving. What good is foresight if we don't act on it? Trouble naturally is emigration is tough in your mid-40s even without children and during a pandemic it is basically a no go. It'd take extraordinary support and I don't have that right now. I had the slight chance at my last job to relocate to NL and I'm kicking myself at the moment.
Indeed I was working there a lot. It is where I developed my deepening sense that America is a bad place vibe. I just saw how other people were living in 'socialist' dystopia and it felt welcoming and importantly not crazy.stessier wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:34 pmI'm betting Netherlands.El Guapo wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:33 pmNL?malchior wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:31 pm Totally. That part of why I'm on the opposite side of the Tweet above. I get why someone would definitely regret moving here. I actually started having a serious conversation with my wife about leaving. What good is foresight if we don't act on it? Trouble naturally is emigration is tough in your mid-40s even without children and during a pandemic it is basically a no go. It'd take extraordinary support and I don't have that right now. I had the slight chance at my last job to relocate to NL and I'm kicking myself at the moment.
US officials are comparing the ultra-transmissible omicron coronavirus variant to a natural disaster as the country continues to shatter records, logging over 1.4 million new COVID-19 cases Monday and seeing hospitalizations at all-time highs of over 140,000.
Officials are now bracing for the weeks ahead, which are expected to bring yet higher numbers of cases that will hamstring health care systems and other essential services nationwide.
"I think that we're talking about a natural disaster," Janet Woodcock, acting commissioner of the Food Drug Administration, said in a Senate Health Committee hearing Tuesday. "I think right now, we need to focus on continuity of operations for hospitals and other essential services as this variant sweeps through the population."
"Prior approaches" aren't responsible for the omicron wave, Woodcock added. She then tried to redirect the discussion away from politics, giving a sobering outlook of the next few weeks.
"I think it's hard to process what's actually happening right now, which is [that] most people are gonna get COVID," Woodcock said. "And what we need to do is make sure that the hospitals can still function [and that] transportation [and] other essential services are not disrupted while this happens. I think after that will be a good time to reassess how we're approaching this pandemic."
https://twitter.com/TheRealJVanWyck/sta ... 3849612294Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:21 am If you're relying on pee to help you avoid Covid, urine trouble.