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"The House, if they come together and have a process, I will definitely consider whatever articles they might move, because as I told you, I believe the president has disregarded his oath of office," the Nebraska senator said.

Smoove_B wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:10 pm The only good thing is that as the arrests increase and the FBI starts their investigations, I need to believe the people that are picked up are going to do anything and everything to communicate the people that were with them in an effort to not be charged with federal crimes.

It's unfortunate that this needs to start from zero 2+ days later, but I'm confident the worst of the worst are going to be identified as investigators are able to piece together the web of connections.

LordMortis wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:23 pm
I need to believe this in spite of my other thoughts. I know I couldn't sit on a jury as one of their peers. I am so angry at everything I could never be just or rational.

A Trump supporter was “trampled to death” as a mob stormed the Capitol according to her family who pleaded with her not join the protest.

Lorini wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:05 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:15 am

Lorini wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:21 am So the FBI is having a lot of difficulty tracking down the rioters because the police couldn't be bothered to arrest them for any number of crimes they obviously committed.

It's a mystery why the FBI is having such difficulty. There are countless photos and videos. There are also probably TBs of location data and breadcrumbs.


Also, FWIW, there were several arrests. But assuming it takes at least one cop to arrest one individual (being generous), how many arrests can we expect? Heard about a marketing firm CEO from the Chicago suburbs that was arrested in the Capitol and was suspended (or terminated?) yesterday.

The video shows people leaving the capitol, walking by police and nothing was done. Believe it or not, because this is a free country or was, the FBI doesn’t have a photo database of 350 million citizens. We can expect the police to arrest those who have clearly committed crimes. They are excellent at arresting those who haven’t, what’s the problem here?

Last seen, they’ve arrested 37 people for the actual break in. I saw way more than 37 people involved, but again video shows the cops ignoring them.

Alright folks, I’m out. Thanks for reading.

Defiant wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:27 pm So apparently one of the deaths was due to being trampled to death:

A Trump supporter was “trampled to death” as a mob stormed the Capitol according to her family who pleaded with her not join the protest.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/us-poli ... 59871.html

$iljanus wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:36 pm Trump tweets that he won’t attend the inauguration. Not unexpected behavior from a spoiled child.

To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th.

“This morning, I spoke to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley to discuss available precautions for preventing an unstable president from initiating military hostilities or accessing the launch codes and ordering a nuclear strike,” the speaker wrote. “The situation of this unhinged President could not be more dangerous, and we must do everything that we can to protect the American people from his unbalanced assault on our country and our democracy.”

Defiant wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:59 pm

“This morning, I spoke to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley to discuss available precautions for preventing an unstable president from initiating military hostilities or accessing the launch codes and ordering a nuclear strike,” the speaker wrote. “The situation of this unhinged President could not be more dangerous, and we must do everything that we can to protect the American people from his unbalanced assault on our country and our democracy.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 84580.html

Lorini wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:59 am

Grifman wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:41 am

Lorini wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:21 am So the FBI is having a lot of difficulty tracking down the rioters because the police couldn't be bothered to arrest them for any number of crimes they obviously committed. I was very happy to hear Biden's concern about how the police reacted to people who were obviously breaking the law vs people who were obviously meeting the law. I could hope that all of the police involved in the insurrection are fired, but there's probably little point as the new ones would likely be as bad as the old ones. When can we find police who are committed to the rule of law and the Constitution?

Where are you reading this? I've seen dozens of them being identified on Twitter, the idiots are posting this stuff on their social media for heaven's sake. There's no reason for the FBI to have problems identifying many of them. And you bring in one, threaten them to get them to cooperate and name others, this isn't hard stuff.

The NYT has reported that because many of the mob were not arrested even though they had obviously broken the law, the FBI has had trouble identifying them. You do realize that not all of them and in fact probably not even most of them are boasting about this on social media? Some of them may actually care about their freedom? Threatening people to get them to cooperate assumes that all of them knew the names of the rest of them there, which is very unlikely.

Angeli has sported his distinctive look in Arizona since at least 2019, when he hit the media's radar for appearing at pro-Trump and QAnon rallies. From the Arizona Republic: "Angeli, in a 2020 interview with The Arizona Republic, said that he wears the fur bonnet, paints his face and walks around shirtless with ragged pants as a way to attract attention. Then, he said, he is able to speak to people about his beliefs about QAnon and other truths he says remain hidden."

Despite his well-documented history as a Trump supporter, on Wednesday night the right-wing media ecosystem turned on him. Lin Wood, the lawyer behind several failed suits to overrun the presidential election, tweeted a photo of Angeli and others who broke into the Capitol with the caption, "Indisputable photographic evidence that antifa violently broke into Congress today." The tweet is no longer available as Wood's Twitter account was banned.

The talking point was also picked up by Pastor Mark Burns, another big name on the pro-Trump social media circuit. "This is NOT a Trump supporter...This is a staged #Antifa attack," he tweeted with a photo of Angeli posing on the Senate dais.

Angeli himself responded to the Wood tweet, trying to clarify that he is, in fact, pro-Trump.

"Mr. Wood. I am not antifa or blm," he wrote. "I'm a Qanon & digital soldier. My name is Jake & I marched with the police & fought against BLM & ANTIFA in PHX. Look up OAN's coverage of July 4ths rally in PHX capital. I was standing against the BLM mob out numbered but unphased. Look it up..."

Enough wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:06 pm I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords..

https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/ ... 4149903360

Jaymon wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:45 pmWhen a group of white people want to protest, it is their right and duty as Americans. After all, America was created by protest and rebellion.
But when a group of any other color protests, they are troublemakers and criminals, and must be stopped.

ImLawBoy wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:16 pm Weren't there a handful of Rs who supported the $2K payment? If so, they may not need Manchin (assuming, of course, that Mitch doesn't rein them in).

Jaymon wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:45 pm Its no mystery to me why the FBI is having trouble identifying the suspects.

Carpet_pissr wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:17 pm This is not the last time we will see this. Because of the stark partisanship and the way our system works, this guy is now (or will be once the newbies are seated) one of the most powerful dudes in the Senate. I don't know much about him, I guess I better start reading because I get the feeling he is going to be prominently in the news for the next two years.

Holman wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:21 pm https://twitter.com/geoffrbennett/statu ... 00672?s=21

ImLawBoy wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:29 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:17 pm This is not the last time we will see this. Because of the stark partisanship and the way our system works, this guy is now (or will be once the newbies are seated) one of the most powerful dudes in the Senate. I don't know much about him, I guess I better start reading because I get the feeling he is going to be prominently in the news for the next two years.

He's in an interesting position - he's kind of the John Roberts of the Senate (except ideologically reversed). He's a Democrat, but a conservative Democrat from a Republican state. He's up for reelection in 2024, and if he votes party line D until then my guess is he loses to a R then. He won with less than 50% of the vote in 2018, so his margin is already pretty thin.

ImLawBoy wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:29 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:17 pm This is not the last time we will see this. Because of the stark partisanship and the way our system works, this guy is now (or will be once the newbies are seated) one of the most powerful dudes in the Senate. I don't know much about him, I guess I better start reading because I get the feeling he is going to be prominently in the news for the next two years.

He's in an interesting position - he's kind of the John Roberts of the Senate (except ideologically reversed). He's a Democrat, but a conservative Democrat from a Republican state. He's up for reelection in 2024, and if he votes party line D until then my guess is he loses to a R then. He won with less than 50% of the vote in 2018, so his margin is already pretty thin.

ImLawBoy wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:16 pm Weren't there a handful of Rs who supported the $2K payment?

ImLawBoy wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:16 pm Weren't there a handful of Rs who supported the $2K payment? If so, they may not need Manchin (assuming, of course, that Mitch doesn't rein them in).

The man photographed sitting at House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s desk has been arrested and charged with three federal counts including theft of public property, federal officials said Friday.

Federal officials said Richard Barnett of Arkansas was taken into custody Friday morning in Little Rock.

Carpet_pissr wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:17 pm Re: Manchin post above: this is not the last time we will see this. Because of the stark partisanship and the way our system works, this guy is now (or will be once the newbies are seated) one of the most powerful dudes in the Senate. I don't know much about him, I guess I better start reading because I get the feeling he is going to be prominently in the news for the next two years.