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Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:01 am
by Sudy
Congratulations! Earlier this week was the 15th anniversary of when Mrs. Nym and I first met online.

I have heard Mrs. Nym drop many, many F-bombs though. :lol:

That's ludicrous. I'm not as familiar with Doordash as the local services I use, but I'm pretty sure that driver is getting banned after the mountain of evidence Mrs. SP presumably dropped on them. Thankfully there were texts in addition to phone calls. What would someone even do with 10 pizzas? Unless they were just frustrated and dumped them on the side of the road. But would it be worth risking the gig, if you need it?


I've used Ubereats and equivalents far, far too many times. Never had an order not show up. Had the wrong order arrive once. And had items missing/seriously messed up orders numerous times. I've almost always gotten compensation, but it's rarely actually sufficient. Like sure, the value is recouped in the form of a refund or coupon, but someone's meal was ruined. And it's not like I'm not going to tip the driver for something that wasn't their fault.

Definitely get the odd lazy or stupid driver who doesn't know how to use a buzzer though, or didn't realize a drink was horizontal and leaking in the bag the whole time, etc.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:59 am
by Daehawk
First time in a long while I went maskless in the food stores. It was mask free day!

Now I hope in a week I dont have to post ..its sick day!

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:37 pm
by Daehawk
Why does the Bon Jovi WIKI list them as a glam metal band? Thats rediculous. Id list them as rock. Perhaps sometimes rock pop. But glam or metal..nah.

And I was looking up the year Slippery When Wet came out so there :)

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:41 pm
by Smoove_B
Daehawk wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:37 pm Why does the Bon Jovi WIKI list them as a glam metal band? Thats rediculous. Id list them as rock. Perhaps sometimes rock pop. But glam or metal..nah.
As a NJ resident, they were absolutely Glam Metal when they started.

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Maybe not 70s style glam metal, but whatever was going on in the early to mid 1980s version.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:53 pm
by ImLawBoy
I always thought they fell clearly in the "hair metal" genre.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:02 pm
by Daehawk
They are not metal at all. Im not sure at this point Id consider Ozzy to be metal.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:29 pm
by Sudy
Genre is only relevant if you're trying to find something in a record store. Everything else is gatekeeping.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:54 pm
by ImLawBoy
Daehawk wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:02 pm They are not metal at all. Im not sure at this point Id consider Ozzy to be metal.
No, they're not metal. They're hair metal. Those are two different genres that share a few similarities, but are mostly different.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:55 pm
by Skinypupy
Daehawk wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:02 pm They are not metal at all. Im not sure at this point Id consider Ozzy to be metal.
I'm not sure what else you would classify Ozzy as, tbh. Hard Rock, maybe, but the line between that and metal is pretty dang thin.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:56 pm
by Isgrimnur
If only we had a metalhed who could help us out.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:57 pm
by Skinypupy
Isgrimnur wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:56 pm If only we had a metalhed who could help us out.
Alas

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:19 pm
by Daehawk
Skinypupy wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:55 pm
Daehawk wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:02 pm They are not metal at all. Im not sure at this point Id consider Ozzy to be metal.
I'm not sure what else you would classify Ozzy as, tbh. Hard Rock, maybe, but the line between that and metal is pretty dang thin.
Very thin indeed.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:35 pm
by Unagi
Sudy wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:29 pm Genre is only relevant if you're trying to find something in a record store. Everything else is gatekeeping.
word

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:36 pm
by Smoove_B
I think the addition of a keyboardist (as a consistent contributor, not just a one-off song) is how you start to break down the various metal/rock elements.

The glam metal bands all had keyboardists, though they were usually hidden in the background - (Bon Jovi, Poison)

When they get into being a focus and/or indulgent you're now into prog rock (Yes, Pink Floyd)

This is my thesis. Let the arguments commence. :D

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:42 pm
by Skinypupy
Smoove_B wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:36 pm I think the addition of a keyboardist (as a consistent contributor, not just a one-off song) is how you start to break down the various metal/rock elements.

The glam metal bands all had keyboardists, though they were usually hidden in the background - (Bon Jovi, Poison)

When they get into being a focus and/or indulgent you're now into prog rock (Yes, Pink Floyd)

This is my thesis. Let the arguments commence. :D
Nearly all symphonic and most black metal bands have keyboards as a primary element. Even the stuff that's considered the most "brvtal" old-school metal (i.e. Emperor, Mayhem, Dark Funeral, Enslaved, etc.)

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:47 pm
by Smoove_B
So then I would consider symphonic and black metal an off-shoot of prog-rock. I'm sure there's a taxonomy chart somewhere. :D

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:54 pm
by LordMortis
Wait, Elton John and Billy Joel are prog rock? Maybe Cap'n and Taniel. Tony Teniel did perform with Pink Floyd, if my brain isn't too addled...

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:58 pm
by Smoove_B
Maybe? Piano is the central element for both (not guitar) so they're something else. I can do this all day.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:00 pm
by LordMortis
Smoove_B wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:58 pm Maybe? Piano is the central element for both (not guitar) so they're something else. I can do this all day.
Little Richard and Jerry Lee Lewis, too?

Steve Allen?

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:04 pm
by pr0ner
Skinypupy wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:56 am Mrs Skinypupy and I have been married for 23 years next week, and have been together for just under 25.

I heard her drop an f-bomb for the first time ever last night, after the Doordash driver who was supposed to be delivering 10 pizzas for her dance team's party literally stole it. :shock:

The driver called Mrs SP saying she couldn't find the address. Mrs SP was extremely patient trying to give her directions on three separate phone calls and a series of texts, but she still couldn't find the place. The driver apparently just gave up, marked the food as "delivered", submitted a picture of the pizza sitting on the front seat of her car claiming that was the delivery location, then put in the notes that "the customer was completely unresponsive to her requests for additional directions".

I honestly don't think I've ever seen her as mad as she was last night. I feel a little bit bad for the hell that is about to rain down on that Doordash driver.
Damn!

What was the resolution? Did you ever get the pizza? If so, who made you all whole? DoorDash? The restaurant?

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:13 pm
by hitbyambulance
how about to start:

'hard rock' is more blues-based
'metal' has shredding and is more aggro (and goes more to the extremes)

e.g.
AC/DC would be the former
Metallica would be the latter

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:13 pm
by Smoove_B
LordMortis wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:00 pm Little Richard and Jerry Lee Lewis, too?
Rock n Roll
Steve Allen?
I dunno. He's credited as a composer. I'll let the academics argue that one.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:08 pm
by Daehawk
This is a long and winding road.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:22 pm
by Skinypupy
Smoove_B wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:47 pm So then I would consider symphonic and black metal an off-shoot of prog-rock. I'm sure there's a taxonomy chart somewhere. :D
Why yes, there is! :)

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:25 pm
by Smoove_B
That's legitimately amazing.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:31 pm
by Jeff V
All metal leads to a single point in 2010? I am/was into some of those genres in the past, it would be fun if clicking on one would show the most representative bands, if only to set a baseline for the terminology that might not be the same from one person to the next.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:25 pm
by Skinypupy
Jeff V wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:31 pm All metal leads to a single point in 2010?
The points all correspond to approximately when that particular genre started. So the 2010 entry (Kawaii metal) is simply the starting point for the most recent new genre.
I am/was into some of those genres in the past, it would be fun if clicking on one would show the most representative bands, if only to set a baseline for the terminology that might not be the same from one person to the next.
This interactive map is fairly comprehensive and includes examples, but I find the format to be pretty janky.

It's not in flowchart form, but this is a pretty good summary.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:33 pm
by Daehawk
Whatavidone.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:44 pm
by Smoove_B

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:12 pm
by Skinypupy
pr0ner wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:04 pm
Skinypupy wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:56 am Mrs Skinypupy and I have been married for 23 years next week, and have been together for just under 25.

I heard her drop an f-bomb for the first time ever last night, after the Doordash driver who was supposed to be delivering 10 pizzas for her dance team's party literally stole it. :shock:

The driver called Mrs SP saying she couldn't find the address. Mrs SP was extremely patient trying to give her directions on three separate phone calls and a series of texts, but she still couldn't find the place. The driver apparently just gave up, marked the food as "delivered", submitted a picture of the pizza sitting on the front seat of her car claiming that was the delivery location, then put in the notes that "the customer was completely unresponsive to her requests for additional directions".

I honestly don't think I've ever seen her as mad as she was last night. I feel a little bit bad for the hell that is about to rain down on that Doordash driver.
Damn!

What was the resolution? Did you ever get the pizza? If so, who made you all whole? DoorDash? The restaurant?
She did not get the pizza. Her anger was actually compounded exponentially when she drove to the Little Caesar’s where it had been ordered from, and the manager basically shrugged and said “sucks for you, not my problem”.

Doordash then pushed back, citing the driver’s claim that it was delivered and that they couldn’t reach Mrs SP. She sent them screenshots of her call and text logs with the driver. They have apparently said they will be issuing a refund, but that it can take up to 10 business days to process. :roll:

I have never personally used Doordash, and I’m quite unlikely to after this experience.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:37 pm
by Holman
Gift from my sister:

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At least, I believe she's my sister.

Memory is a funny thing.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:09 pm
by pr0ner
Skinypupy wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:12 pm
pr0ner wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:04 pm
Skinypupy wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:56 am Mrs Skinypupy and I have been married for 23 years next week, and have been together for just under 25.

I heard her drop an f-bomb for the first time ever last night, after the Doordash driver who was supposed to be delivering 10 pizzas for her dance team's party literally stole it. :shock:

The driver called Mrs SP saying she couldn't find the address. Mrs SP was extremely patient trying to give her directions on three separate phone calls and a series of texts, but she still couldn't find the place. The driver apparently just gave up, marked the food as "delivered", submitted a picture of the pizza sitting on the front seat of her car claiming that was the delivery location, then put in the notes that "the customer was completely unresponsive to her requests for additional directions".

I honestly don't think I've ever seen her as mad as she was last night. I feel a little bit bad for the hell that is about to rain down on that Doordash driver.
Damn!

What was the resolution? Did you ever get the pizza? If so, who made you all whole? DoorDash? The restaurant?
She did not get the pizza. Her anger was actually compounded exponentially when she drove to the Little Caesar’s where it had been ordered from, and the manager basically shrugged and said “sucks for you, not my problem”.

Doordash then pushed back, citing the driver’s claim that it was delivered and that they couldn’t reach Mrs SP. She sent them screenshots of her call and text logs with the driver. They have apparently said they will be issuing a refund, but that it can take up to 10 business days to process. :roll:

I have never personally used Doordash, and I’m quite unlikely to after this experience.
The worst issue I've had with DoorDash so far is a driver putting my order in front of the wrong door of the 4 units that share my address (are A and D that hard to tell the difference between?). At least the picture told me where my food was. Otherwise, I've had no issues with them. I've definitely heard stories about drivers stealing orders like that, though, and I'd go apeshit if that happened to me.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:53 am
by Blackhawk
Holman wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:37 pm Gift from my sister:

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At least, I believe she's my sister.

Memory is a funny thing.
Quick question.. .

While walking along in desert sand, you suddenly look down and see a tortoise crawling toward you. You reach down and flip it over onto its back. The tortoise lies there, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs, trying to turn itself over, but it cannot do so without your help. You are not helping. Why?

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:31 pm
by Daehawk
Anyone know of a good insulated glass for soda or other liquids? I like to keep a coke at my pc to sip on and it gets hot too quick even with ac. I dont like ice in my soda but when I have used it I either end up drinking the melted ice on top first or I use a straw and end up knocking it over as I reach for something.

So looking for a cup/glass that will keep it cold longer without using ice or plugging it in. I used to think about one of those usb powered chiller coasters but again that would be in my way.

And Im not talking expensive. The cheapest best option.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:38 pm
by Unagi
Daehawk wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:31 pm Anyone know of a good insulated glass for soda or other liquids? I like to keep a coke at my pc to sip on and it gets hot too quick even with ac. I dont like ice in my soda but when I have used it I either end up drinking the melted ice on top first or I use a straw and end up knocking it over as I reach for something.

So looking for a cup/glass that will keep it cold longer without using ice or plugging it in. I used to think about one of those usb powered chiller coasters but again that would be in my way.

And Im not talking expensive. The cheapest best option.
Your best bet will likely be a 'double wall' / insulated tumbler. (find one that's as cheap as you would like... the set of 4, below, is pretty good)

I imagine you could go super fancy with this - but not if you want super cheap too.

edit: link
(not sure why that wouldn't show as a link for you... /shrug - hope it does now)

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:41 pm
by Daehawk
I dont see anything in your post but the text.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:42 pm
by TheMix
https://www.amazon.com/Boston-Warehouse ... 803&sr=8-5

FYI, if you click the button to quote the comment, you can see the link.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:50 pm
by Daehawk
Thanks.

Ah I didn't even think of a regular open top glass. I was thinking of a lidded type. Neat. Double walled would probably cut down on sweating of the outside too.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:01 pm
by Unagi
Daehawk wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:50 pm Thanks.

Ah I didn't even think of a regular open top glass. I was thinking of a lidded type. Neat. Double walled would probably cut down on sweating of the outside too.
also, if you have a fan blowing on you - that will no longer contribute to the convection heating of your beverage, once it's insulated...

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:55 pm
by stessier
Daehawk wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:50 pm Thanks.

Ah I didn't even think of a regular open top glass. I was thinking of a lidded type. Neat. Double walled would probably cut down on sweating of the outside too.
Double walled completely eliminates sweating.