Best Turn-Based Stategy Game Ever?

Sepiche · Post by **Sepiche** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 2:22 pm

Kaigen wrote:Everyone who hasn't named X-Com as the greatest turn-based strategy game ever is a terrible person and should die.

Agreed.

X-COM!!!

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Poleaxe · Post by **Poleaxe** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 2:52 pm

Kobra wrote:WTF is SMAC? All these anacronyms are pretty confusing.

CMAFK would be Combat Mission Afrika Korps, but i'm not too lazy to type, so just type it all out.

You might have to blog about this.

Veloxi · Post by **Veloxi** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 3:41 pm

For me, it would have to me, in no particular order:

Master of Magic
Master of Orion II
SMAC
Imperialism II
Missionforce: Cyberstorm
X-Com
Jagged Alliance
M.A.X.
Warlords III: Darklords Rising
Emperor of the Fading Suns
Stars!
Fantasy General
The Operational Art of War Series
The Entire Talonsoft Campaign Series (East Front, West Front...)
Civlization II
Conquest of the New World

Any many more I'm probably forgetting...

dfs · Post by **dfs** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 4:21 pm

Dominions2
Imperialism2
Moo
King of Dragon Pass
X-Com
JA2
Smac
and the king.... civ3.

DuckofDeath · Post by **DuckofDeath** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 4:54 pm

For pure hours played, it'd prolly have to be X-Com for me. I still pull it out and play it every once and a while. I can't say any other game that old still gets much play time except Darklands. MOO1/2, MoM, and SMAC all rate pretty high as well. For some reason, I never played the Heroes or AOW games a ton (by that I mean I put in *merely* 20 or 30 hours as opposed to the absolutely insane and embarrasing amount of time I played the games listed above).

malichai11 · Post by **malichai11** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 7:07 pm

SMAC/X for the win.

Honorable mentions to:
MoM
MOO 1
JA2
X-Com
Civ3

JonathanStrange · Post by **JonathanStrange** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 11:46 pm

X-Com
Civ 2

Muddyboots · Post by **Muddyboots** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:26 am

Warlords 3: Darklords Rising. What a game. I haven't played it since forever, but I remember the addiction. I wasn't able to get it to run on my upgraded Comp as time passed. Damnit! What the hell happened to Warlords 4!?

JayG · Post by **JayG** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:31 am

Master of Magic and Age of Wonders:Shadow Magic

(With Fallout 2 getting a nod as well)

Dirt · Post by **Dirt** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:59 am

Master of Magic
Age of Wonders 1, 2 and Shadow Magic
X-Com
Jagged Alliance 1, Deadly Games, 2

SuperHiro · Post by **SuperHiro** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 12:12 pm

Personal Favorites
X-Com
Heroes of Might and Magic 2 (Opera music for the win)
Age of Wonders: Shadow Magic (best of the AoW series)
Civ III (Only non-popcap game that my wife really got into)
Moo (Nostalgia factor plays very heavily)

Honorable Mention
Jagged Alliance 2
Fallout Tactics
SMAC
Dominions 2
Silent Storm
Yahoo! Hearts

JonathanStrange · Post by **JonathanStrange** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:43 pm

JayG wrote:Master of Magic and Age of Wonders:Shadow Magic

(With Fallout 2 getting a nod as well)

Yes, some very good stuff indeed.

tals · Post by **tals** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:50 pm

Civ 3 have pbem?

Mandeville · Post by **Mandeville** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:41 pm

Of all time?

Chess.

knob · Post by **knob** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:09 pm

tals wrote:Civ 3 have pbem?

Yes.

Veloxi · Post by **Veloxi** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:47 pm

Grand_Director wrote:Of all time?

Chess.

Elitist bastard.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:40 pm

Grand_Director wrote:Of all time?

Chess.

Go

tals · Post by **tals** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:39 am

Valael wrote:
tals wrote:Civ 3 have pbem?
Yes.

It looks like its a game to try, i'll play SMAC a bit more but it sounds like a temptation for sure.

Tals

SuperHiro · Post by **SuperHiro** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:49 am

Pyperkub wrote:
Grand_Director wrote:Of all time?

Chess.
Go

Word, Go kicks Chess's ass all over the place. Unless we're talking about Battle Chess.

And tals, given that Civ 4 is coming out pretty soon, I'd hold off on that Civ 3 purchase as this time.

tals · Post by **tals** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:02 am

I think you're right SuperH - certainly does look good.

Tals

yossar · Post by **yossar** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:08 am

Muddyboots wrote:Warlords 3: Darklords Rising. What a game. I haven't played it since forever, but I remember the addiction. I wasn't able to get it to run on my upgraded Comp as time passed. Damnit! What the hell happened to Warlords 4!?

I remember having to change something about pointers. Did you try that? If PC Gaming were to ever die, I would definitely go back to Warlords 3: DLR a lot.

Muddyboots · Post by **Muddyboots** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:17 am

No Yossar, I didn't try that, and unfortunately, I no longer own the disk. Damn though, I loved that game.

morlac · Post by **morlac** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:13 am

The Meal wrote:
Kobra wrote:WTF is SMAC?
Seriously? You worked in the strategic-game development industry and you don't know what SMAC is? Oh-kay...

~Neal

Toe · Post by **Toe** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:30 am

Wow, not a single mention of Combat Mission.

Great games by folks that showed us what is possible in the gaming industry.

www.battlefront.com/aboutus.html

Gumps · Post by **Gumps** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:46 pm

Though X-com was good, it doesn't even make my top 5...

SMAC/X
CIV III
Master of Magic
Disciples
Age of Wonder (Shadow Magic)

Honorable mention goes to
X-Com
Dominions 2
CivII
MOO2
Warlords 3 (Much better than 4)

And I have never gotten into the HoMM games so they don't even make my list....

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:50 am

yossar wrote:
Muddyboots wrote:Warlords 3: Darklords Rising. What a game. I haven't played it since forever, but I remember the addiction. I wasn't able to get it to run on my upgraded Comp as time passed. Damnit! What the hell happened to Warlords 4!?
I remember having to change something about pointers. Did you try that? If PC Gaming were to ever die, I would definitely go back to Warlords 3: DLR a lot.

You need to start the program with the "-wincurs" option as the old DX3 cursors don't play nice with the updated HAL in Win2k/XP. Works fine though.

Warms my heart to see all the Warlords 3 love - it was a blast working on it, and I still play it periodically. I would have loved to work on Battlecry and 4, but the whole company getting bought thing moved Battlecry off to another division. I remember reading and re-reading the original Battlecry Design doc, contemplating test plans and strategies.

Muddyboots · Post by **Muddyboots** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 3:23 am

So...if I were to find Warlords 3 and buy it...I could play it on my XP?

Muddyboots · Post by **Muddyboots** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 4:16 am

Well, call me crazy but i re-installed Warlords 4 and felt enough of the Warlords magic to put a giddy smile on my face. I just love the atmosphere of the Warlords games. Damn, I would love to play Darklords Rising again!

yossar · Post by **yossar** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 4:18 am

Muddyboots wrote:So...if I were to find Warlords 3 and buy it...I could play it on my XP?

I know I got it running well enough on my laptop, but I can't remember if I was running 98SE, 2000, or XP. I do remember I had to change the cursors option, though, so maybe it was 2000. If I take my laptop on my trip to Guam, I'll definitely be loading that onto it.

Samurai · Post by **Samurai** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 4:33 am

Hmm, just for something new...

The American Civil War: From Sumter to Appomattox, a nice little turn based wargame that I've been enjoying recently.

razgon · Post by **razgon** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:59 am

Oh come on, for Marvs sake, what about Warlords!! the ORIGINAL warlords!!

also, in no particular order other than my brains...

Master of Magic

Gateway to Apshai

Invasion Normandy

Master of Orion 2

Xcom 1

Hyperion (although probably more of a sports game)

Edit: Not Hyperion, but Hypaball of course

Exodor · Post by **Exodor** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:04 pm

In order:

Master of Magic
Civ
X-Com
Master of Orion

I love X-Com, but I spent far more time on the Civ series and Master of Magic.

tals · Post by **tals** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 2:51 am

tals wrote:Having not tried SMAC yet Shortky to arrive I can't comment on that one.

However

Stars! Absolutely brilliant turn based game (though really on the MP side not as a SP game)

Dominions 2 - Again great action - but for me again a MP pbem game over a SP game. Really impressive level of spells and options available to the gamer.

What both of these have over the vast majority of 'pbem' games is the ability to have a client host as the pbem server. Not a pass the parcel system which can tend to stutter as the turn is passed around.

Tals

OK having played SMAC for the last week - I love it! One of those games that looks incredibly simple but as you delve in becomes more and more complex. As i'm still in the i'm in love phase of a game it seems a bit unfair but SMAC shoots straight to the top of my list.

Tals

p.s pbem pass the parcel still sux bad though

CSL · Post by **CSL** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:31 am

X-COM muthafuckers, all you others are just quacks!

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 8:51 am

I'm not a fan of tactical combat games (Silent Storm was the only one I ever liked, and I hated it once the stupid Panzer People were introduced). I never had a use for X-Com.

Eduardo X · Post by **Eduardo X** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 11:41 am

CSL wrote:X-COM muthafuckers, all you others are just quacks!

Says the person holding up our PBEM game....

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Sun Jun 12, 2005 8:52 am

SMAC/X definitely.

Rowdy · Post by **Rowdy** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 2:27 pm

HoMM 3, end of story.

Worthy Contenders:

Civ 2 / 3
HoMM 2
SMAC + Alien Crossfire
X-Com
MOO 2

dbemont · Post by **dbemont** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 4:01 pm

Civilization -- 3 being the best, and the RAR mod being the best of that
Masters of Orion 1
Heroes of Might and Magic 1-3 but especially 1
Imperialism

dbemont · Post by **dbemont** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 4:03 pm

Samurai wrote:Hmm, just for something new...

The American Civil War: From Sumter to Appomattox, a nice little turn based wargame that I've been enjoying recently.

Oh yes, add that to my list too. Excellent game!