Diplomacy3:1915 fall MOVEMENT (deadline: Fri midnite EST)

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:21 am

You're also welcome to mark builds FINAL if you wish. The same practices apply.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:55 pm

NOTE:

I have Build orders of some sort from everyone.

I have FINAL Build orders from five players.

I have non-FINAL Build orders from two players.

Submitting non-FINAL orders means either (a) that you wish for the deadline (in this case, midnight tonight) to be enforced, or (b) that you wish to retain the option to change your orders between now and midnight.

That's fine. I just wanted to clarify that if you've submitted tentative orders, you can finalize them simply by shooting me a PM to that effect.

If everyone finalizes, I'll post results early. If somebody chooses not to finalize, I'll post results after midnight (whether in the wee hours or in the morning).[/quote]

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:54 pm

ORDERS:

Results for Fall, 1901 (Adjustment)

Austria: Austin
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 1.
B A vie

England: Matthew
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 2.
B F edi
B A lon

France: Chaosraven
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 2.
B F mar
B A par

Germany: Cesare
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 1.
B A mun

Italy: El Guapo
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 1.
B F nap

Russia: Kelric
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 1.
B A war

Turkey: Remus West
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 2.
B F ank
B F con

OUTCOME: SIMPLE MAP

OUTCOME: FANCY MAP

It is Spring of 1902. Orders for 1902 Spring Movement are therefore due day after tomorrow, by midnight EST at Thursday's end.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:03 pm

Reminder

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:12 pm

A note to the nightowls: Don't hold your breath. I won't be able to post outcomes until the morning.

Get some sleep!

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:15 pm

Grundbegriff wrote:A note to the nightowls: Don't hold your breath. I won't be able to post outcomes until the morning.

Get some sleep!

phooey.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:18 am

Remus West wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:A note to the nightowls: Don't hold your breath. I won't be able to post outcomes until the morning.

Get some sleep!
phooey.

It's like, waaaaay morning.... I'm just saying is all.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:24 am

Austin wrote:
Remus West wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:A note to the nightowls: Don't hold your breath. I won't be able to post outcomes until the morning.

Get some sleep!
phooey.
It's like, waaaaay morning.... I'm just saying is all.

I think as a penalty, Grund should have to award me a new supply center in Tuscany.

Cesare · Post by **Cesare** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:25 am

El Guapo wrote:
Austin wrote:
Remus West wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:A note to the nightowls: Don't hold your breath. I won't be able to post outcomes until the morning.

Get some sleep!
phooey.
It's like, waaaaay morning.... I'm just saying is all.
I think as a penalty, Grund should have to award me a new supply center in Tuscany.

..and also a new supply center in Tuscany for Diplomacy Game 1.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:27 am

Cesare wrote:
El Guapo wrote:
Austin wrote:
Remus West wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:A note to the nightowls: Don't hold your breath. I won't be able to post outcomes until the morning.

Get some sleep!
phooey.
It's like, waaaaay morning.... I'm just saying is all.
I think as a penalty, Grund should have to award me a new supply center in Tuscany.
..and also a new supply center in Tuscany for Diplomacy Game 1.

You can have one of Germany's in that game okay. Or come to sunny England where all we make are boats.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:14 am

Cesare wrote:
El Guapo wrote:
Austin wrote:
Remus West wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:A note to the nightowls: Don't hold your breath. I won't be able to post outcomes until the morning.

Get some sleep!
phooey.
It's like, waaaaay morning.... I'm just saying is all.
I think as a penalty, Grund should have to award me a new supply center in Tuscany.
..and also a new supply center in Tuscany for Diplomacy Game 1.

Done and done.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:15 am

ORDERS:

Results for Spring, 1902 (Movement)
No retreating units; retreat phase skipped.

Austria: Austin
A bud -> gal (Bounced with gal (2 against 2).)
A ser S A rum
F tri H
A vie S A bud -> gal

England: Matthew
A bel -> hol
F edi -> nth
A lon H
F nth -> eng
F nwy S F edi -> nth

France: Chaosraven
A bur H
F mar -> pie (Bounced with tyr (1 against 1).)
A par S A bur
A por -> spa
F spa/sc -> mao

Germany: Cesare
A ber -> mun
F den -> nth (Bounced with edi (1 against 1).)
A kie S A mun -> ruh
A mun -> ruh

Italy: El Guapo
F nap -> ion
A rom -> ven
F tun -> wes
A tyr -> pie (Bounced with mar (1 against 1).)

Russia: Kelric
A gal S A ukr -> rum (Support cut by Move from Budapest.)
F sev S A ukr -> rum
F swe H
A ukr -> rum (Bounced with rum (2 against 3).)
A war S A gal

Turkey: Remus West
F ank -> arm
F bla S F ank -> arm
A bul S A rum
F con -> aeg
A rum S A bud -> gal (Support cut by Move from Ukraine.)

OUTCOME: SIMPLE MAP

OUTCOME: FANCY MAP

No retreat phase is required. Orders for 1902 Fall Movement phase are therefore due day after tomorrow, by midnight EST at Saturday's end.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:13 am

Two of our seven have not yet sent orders.

Shall I give them more time, or shall I allow all their units to default to Hold?

Matthew · Post by **Matthew** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:10 am

Crud. That was my bad. I was thinking tomorrow (Sunday) night for some reason.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:53 am

Grundbegriff wrote:Two of our seven have not yet sent orders.

Shall I give them more time, or shall I allow all their units to default to Hold?

Send them a PM and give them a bit of time. Giving all units hold orders tilts the game to much. Unless their orders screw me, in that case they are to late.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:29 am

DEFAULT!!! HOLD!!! Bwa Hahahahaha!!!

The World is MINE!

Cesare · Post by **Cesare** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:43 am

Sorry, about that and thanks for waiting. I just sent my moves in.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 4:05 pm

Grundbegriff wrote: Imperatives:

A. Don't sign up unless you can get your orders in on time.

B. Don't sign up unless you're committed to following through.
Comments:

I'm defining two imperatives: keep up, and don't bail.

It's rude to bail when you're losing.

It's rude to keep everyone waiting.

ORDERS:

Results for Fall, 1902 (Adjustment)

Austria: Austin
F tri H
A vie S F tri (Support cut by Move from Galicia.)
A bud S A vie
A ser S A rum

England: Matthew
Units were dislodged. Units that must retreat: 1.
F nwy H
F eng C A lon -> bre
A lon -> bre (Convoy path taken: lon>eng>bre.) (Bounced with par (1 against 1).)
F nth S A hol (Support cut by Move from Denmark.)
A hol H (Dislodged from ruh (2 against 1).)

France: Chaosraven
A bur -> pic
F mar -> spa/sc
F mao -> nao
A par -> bre (Bounced with lon (1 against 1).)
A spa -> gas

Germany: Cesare
A mun -> bur
F den -> nth (Bounced with nth (1 against 1).)
A kie S A ruh -> hol
A ruh -> hol

Italy: El Guapo
F ion -> adr
A tyr S A gal -> vie
A ven -> tri (Bounced with tri (1 against 1).)
F wes -> tys

Russia: Kelric
The Fleet in Sevastopol cannot retreat; unit destroyed.
No order for unit at Sweden. Hold order assigned.
No order for unit at Sevastopol. Hold order assigned.
Russia: F swe H
Russia: A ukr S F sev
Russia: F sev H (Dislodged from arm (3 against 2).)
Russia: A gal -> vie (Bounced with vie (2 against 2).
Russia: A war -> mos

Turkey: Remus West
F aeg -> gre
A bul S A rum
F bla S F arm -> sev
A rum S F arm -> sev
F arm -> sev

OUTCOME: SIMPLE MAP

OUTCOME: FANCY MAP

It is Winter of 1902. Orders for 1902 Retreat are due no later than tomorrow, by midnight EST at Monday's end. However, the game will resume as soon as I receive all retreat orders.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:36 pm

ORDERS:

Results for Fall, 1902 (Retreat)

Austria: Austin
No supply centers were gained.

England: Matthew
No supply centers were gained.
England: A hol -> bel

France: Chaosraven
No supply centers were gained.

Germany: Cesare
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 1.

Italy: El Guapo
No supply centers were gained.

Russia: Kelric
No supply centers were gained.

Turkey: Remus West
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 2.

OUTCOME: SIMPLE MAP

OUTCOME: FANCY MAP

It is Winter of 1902. Orders for 1902 BUILD are due no later than tomorrow, by midnight EST at Monday's end. However, the game will resume sooner if I receive finalized BUILD orders from all.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:47 pm

Thread title needs updated.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:27 pm

On you Cesare. My build is in.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:42 am

ORDERS:

Results for Fall, 1902 (Adjustment)

Austria: Austin

England: Matthew

France: Chaosraven

Germany: Cesare
B A mun

Italy: El Guapo

Russia: Kelric

Turkey: Remus West
B F smy
B F con

OUTCOME: SIMPLE MAP

OUTCOME: FANCY MAP

It is Spring of 1903. Orders for MOVEMENT are due no later than the day after tomorrow, by midnight EST at Wednesday's end.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:12 pm

Reminder: orders due by midnight tonight for spring Movement.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:23 pm

NOTE:

I have orders of some sort from everyone.

I have FINAL orders from three players.

I have non-FINAL orders from four players. (If you're presently in negotiations with someone, this does not necessarily mean that he has already made up his mind or that you're being deceived. Players often submit tentative orders well in advance of the deadline just to be sure they don't end up holding-by-default if they accidentally miss that deadline).

Submitting non-FINAL orders means either (a) that you wish for the deadline (in this case, midnight tonight) to be enforced, or (b) that you wish to retain the option to change your orders between now and midnight.

That's fine. I just wanted to clarify that if you've submitted tentative orders, you can finalize them simply by shooting me a PM to that effect.

If everyone finalizes, I'll post results early. If somebody chooses not to finalize, I'll post results shortly after midnight.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:30 am

ORDERS:

Results for Spring, 1903 (Movement)

Austria: Austin
A bud S F tri
A ser S F tri
F tri H
A vie -> tyr

England: Matthew
A bel H
F eng S A bel
F nth S A bel
F nwy S F nth
A lon H

France: Chaosraven
A gas -> mar
F nao -> lvp
A par -> bre
A pic S A bur -> bel
F spa/sc -> mao

Germany: Cesare
A bur -> bel (Bounced with bel (3 against 3).)
F den -> ska
A hol S A bur -> bel
A kie -> den
A mun S A vie -> tyr

Italy: El Guapo
Units were dislodged. Units that must retreat: 1.
F adr S A ven -> tri
A tyr S A ven -> tri (Dislodged from vie (2 against 1).)
F tys -> ion (Bounced with gre (1 against 1).)
A ven -> tri (Bounced with tri (2 against 3).)

Russia: Kelric
A gal -> war
A mos -> sev
F swe H
A ukr S A mos -> sev

Turkey: Remus West
Units were dislodged. Units that must retreat: 1.
F bla S A rum
A bul S A rum
F con -> aeg
F gre -> ion (Bounced with tys (1 against 1).)
A rum H
F sev S A rum (Support cut by Move from Moscow.) (Dislodged from mos (2 against 1).)
F smy -> eas

OUTCOME: SIMPLE MAP

OUTCOME: FANCY MAP

It is Summer of 1903. Retreat orders in response to spring are due no later than tomorrow, by midnight EST at Thursday's end. However, the game will resume as soon as I receive all retreat orders.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:35 am

I see we're getting that "Dislodged-from-Belgium shows as Dislodged-from-Channel" bug on the Fancy map.

Alas.

Matthew · Post by **Matthew** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:43 am

Whoa! Hold up. Those aren't the orders I sent. I even checked my Sent Items PM. Grund could you check my moves again?

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:19 pm

Matthew wrote:Whoa! Hold up. Those aren't the orders I sent. I even checked my Sent Items PM. Grund could you check my moves again?

It appears that I have committed a Remus.

Matthew's actual orders were:

England: Matthew
A bel H
F eng S A bel
F nth S A bel
F nwy S F nth
A lon H

For this reason, he's not dislodged. (As a happy side-effect, we no longer have to suffer the agony of the jDip dislodged-from-Belgium bug.)

The fix will appear above, in the results post.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:37 pm

ORDERS:

Results for Spring, 1903 (Retreat)

Austria: Austin

England: Matthew

France: Chaosraven

Germany: Cesare

Italy: El Guapo
A tyr -> boh

Russia: Kelric

Turkey: Remus West
F sev -> arm

OUTCOME: SIMPLE MAP

OUTCOME: FANCY MAP

It is Fall of 1903. Orders for 1903 MOVEMENT are due no later than the day after tomorrow, by midnight EST at Saturday's end. However, the game will resume sooner if I receive finalized MOVEMENT orders from all.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:20 pm

Grundbegriff wrote:It appears that I have committed a Remus.

Hey!

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:35 pm

Remus West wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:It appears that I have committed a Remus.
Hey!

In light of the processing errors this turn, and because I am such a nice guy, I have taken the liberty of fixing all such errors. Here is the updated, corrected map:

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:44 pm

France and Italy are doing slightly better than I thought.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:25 pm

Reminder: orders due by midnight tonight for fall Movement.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 10:40 pm

NOTE:

I have orders of some sort from everyone.

I have FINAL orders from four players.

I have non-FINAL orders from three players. (If you're presently in negotiations with someone, this does not necessarily mean that he has already made up his mind or that you're being deceived. Players often submit tentative orders well in advance of the deadline just to be sure they don't end up holding-by-default if they accidentally miss that deadline).

Submitting non-FINAL orders means either (a) that you wish for the deadline (in this case, midnight tonight) to be enforced, or (b) that you wish to retain the option to change your orders between now and midnight.

That's fine. I just wanted to clarify that if you've submitted tentative orders, you can finalize them simply by shooting me a PM to that effect.

If everyone finalizes, I'll post results early. If somebody chooses not to finalize, I'll post results shortly after midnight.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:47 am

/checks his watch.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:31 pm

ORDERS:

Results for Fall, 1903

Austria: Austin
A bud -> vie (Bounced with boh (1 against 1).)
A ser S F tri
F tri S A tyr -> ven
A tyr -> ven (Bounced with ven (2 against 2).)

England: Matthew
Units were dislodged. Units that must retreat: 1.
A bel -> hol (Bounced with hol (1 against 1).)(Dislodged from bur (2 against 1).)
F eng -> bel (Bounced with bur (1 against 1).)
A lon H
F nth S A bel -> hol (Support cut by Move from Skagerrak.)
F nwy -> ska (Failed because Germany: F ska -> nth Failed.)

France: Chaosraven
A bre -> par
F lvp H
A mar -> gas
F mao -> eng (Failed because England: F eng -> bel Failed.)
A pic -> bre

Germany: Cesare
A bur -> bel
A den H
A hol S A bur -> bel
A mun H
F ska -> nth (Bounced with nth (1 against 1).)

Italy: El Guapo
F adr S A ven
A boh -> vie (Bounced with bud (1 against 1).)
F tys -> ion (Bounced with eas (1 against 1).)
A ven S F tri (Support cut by Move from Tyrolia.)

Russia: Kelric
A sev H
F swe -> nwy (Failed because England: F nwy -> ska Failed.)
A ukr H
A war -> mos

Turkey: Remus West
F aeg S F eas -> ion
F arm H
F bla S A rum
A bul S A rum
F eas -> ion
F gre -> alb
A rum S A bul

OUTCOME: SIMPLE MAP

OUTCOME: FANCY MAP

It is Winter of 1903. Orders for 1903 Retreat are due no later than tonight, by midnight EST at Sunday's end. However, the game will resume as soon as I receive all retreat orders.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:00 pm

ORDERS:

Results for Fall, 1903 (Retreat)

Austria: Austin

England: Matthew
Supply centers were lost. Units that must be removed: 1.

A bel D

France: Chaosraven
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 1.

Germany: Cesare
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 1.

Italy: El Guapo

Russia: Kelric
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 1.

Turkey: Remus West
Supply centers were lost. Units that must be removed: 1.

OUTCOME: SIMPLE MAP

OUTCOME: FANCY MAP

It is Winter of 1903/4. Orders for 1904 Adjustment (Build/Disband) are therefore due tomorrow, by midnight EST at Monday's end.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:13 am

ORDERS:

Results for Fall, 1903 (Adjustment)

Austria: Austin

England: Matthew
R F nwy

France: Chaosraven
B A mar

Germany: Cesare
B F kie

Italy: El Guapo

Russia: Kelric
B F stp/nc

Turkey: Remus West
R A bul

OUTCOME: SIMPLE MAP

OUTCOME: FANCY MAP

It is Spring of 1904. Orders for MOVEMENT are due no later than the day after tomorrow, by midnight EST at Wednesday's end.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:07 pm

Reminder: orders due by midnight tonight for spring Movement.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:29 am

Awaiting orders....