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Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:17 pm
by Unagi
Good morning!

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:45 pm
by Vorret
  El Guapo  
 


:whistle:

He's overdue for an evil role. I think. I don't know.

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:00 pm
by bb2112

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:37 pm
by RMC
El Guapo wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:51 am  RMC 
 


Due to his long history of devilry.
Hey! You are a new one to pick on me!
But I resemble that remark.

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:48 pm
by Holman
I gotta ask: what's the deal with day starts in recent games?

Day 1 voting always feels so random. I feel like I'm supposed to watch for slip-ups that will reveal who's a Wolf, but the experienced players aren't going to make any of those, and the newer players (which I guess is still Punisher) will be forgiven because of their newness.

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:27 pm
by Scoop20906
That’s some real good fan fiction, bb2112.


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Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:51 pm
by Punisher
Holman wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:48 pm I gotta ask: what's the deal with day starts in recent games?

Day 1 voting always feels so random. I feel like I'm supposed to watch for slip-ups that will reveal who's a Wolf, but the experienced players aren't going to make any of those, and the newer players (which I guess is still Punisher) will be forgiven because of their newness.
Well, if we start at night we go into the first day with no real info anyway which means it still feels random. (Unless a seer come out with a great scan, which I dont think happens unless they are close to getting lynched. We dont really get any other info by starting at night)

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:14 pm
by Newcastle
Absolutely, I agree.

Hayden Christensen for POTUS

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:20 pm
by Chaosraven
:pop:

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:21 pm
by Scoop20906
Chaosraven wrote::pop:
Enough Alts already, Moliere.

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:38 pm
by Punisher
Scoop20906 wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:21 pm
Chaosraven wrote::pop:
Enough Alts already, Moliere.
One day this game will be nothing but his alts...

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:26 pm
by El Guapo
Punisher wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:38 pm
Scoop20906 wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:21 pm
Chaosraven wrote::pop:
Enough Alts already, Moliere.
One day this game will be nothing but his alts...
One day? :ninja:

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:34 am
by Lassr
El Guapo wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:26 pm
Punisher wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:38 pm
Scoop20906 wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:21 pm
Chaosraven wrote::pop:
Enough Alts already, Moliere.
One day this game will be nothing but his alts...
One day? :ninja:
I'm still me...I think, or am I?

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:42 am
by El Guapo
Lassr wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:34 am
El Guapo wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:26 pm
Punisher wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:38 pm
Scoop20906 wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:21 pm
Chaosraven wrote::pop:
Enough Alts already, Moliere.
One day this game will be nothing but his alts...
One day? :ninja:
I'm still me...I think, or am I?
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Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:23 am
by Vorret
Attack of the clones? :shock:

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:42 am
by Lassr
 RMC 
 


he made a post without voting for Remus. Very strange behavior.

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:46 am
by Unagi
I think it's Moliere and Scoop.

 Moliere 
 

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:03 am
by RMC
Lassr wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:42 am  RMC 
 


he made a post without voting for Remus. Very strange behavior.
Oh dear god, you saw through my plot to frame Remus, by not voting for him with my first post. :)

With that said.   Remus West  
 

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:24 am
by Remus West
 Unagi 
 


If he isn't the Alpha then whichever of you is probably chose him to avoid being chased by him.

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:40 am
by Lassr
Punisher wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:51 pm
Holman wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:48 pm I gotta ask: what's the deal with day starts in recent games?

Day 1 voting always feels so random. I feel like I'm supposed to watch for slip-ups that will reveal who's a Wolf, but the experienced players aren't going to make any of those, and the newer players (which I guess is still Punisher) will be forgiven because of their newness.
Well, if we start at night we go into the first day with no real info anyway which means it still feels random. (Unless a seer come out with a great scan, which I dont think happens unless they are close to getting lynched. We dont really get any other info by starting at night)
well a night start gives the seer a scan so when we eventually reveal him on day one he has info to disperse. Plus you have the night kill which could provide some info.

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:52 am
by Vorret
I kinda like a night start even if it's a bit "gimmicky" since someone dies without any input at all. But it sure changes the dynamic of the first day.

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:12 am
by Holman
I like a night start since (unless the wolves get stupid lucky and kill the seer) there's at least some data available to someone during the first vote.

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:52 am
by Newcastle
  punisher  
 


Yup!

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:01 pm
by Vorret
Hmm I are we killing by seniority ? I wouldn't go first if we do that !

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:02 pm
by Vorret
Wait... SHIT.

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:05 pm
by El Guapo
Remus West wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:24 am  Unagi 
 


If he isn't the Alpha then whichever of you is probably chose him to avoid being chased by him.
Hmmm, this is actually a good point, although I still don't want to throw away Unagi on a day 1 vote.

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:11 pm
by Unagi
The theory that wolves are "afraid of me" is not found to be an actual thing.

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:06 pm
by Vorret
Unagi wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:11 pm The theory that wolves are "afraid of me" is not found to be an actual thing.
That's true, I fear you and I'm no wolf.

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:47 am
by Lassr
 Scoop 
 


just because he's quiet which is un-Scoop-Like.

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:10 am
by RMC
This unscoop like behavior seems sinister... Or maybe he is beging Regal...Like an Emperor... !!!!

Therefore he is a Duck!!!

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:31 am
by Vorret
Are there Sith ducks?

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:38 am
by Lassr
Vorret wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:31 am Are there Sith ducks?
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Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:59 am
by Vorret
Well I'm convinced.

  Scoop  
 

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:02 pm
by Scoop20906
Vorret wrote:Well I'm convinced.

  Scoop  
 
No way am I a senior!!


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Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:09 pm
by Remus West
El Guapo wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:05 pm
Remus West wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:24 am  Unagi 
 


If he isn't the Alpha then whichever of you is probably chose him to avoid being chased by him.
Hmmm, this is actually a good point, although I still don't want to throw away Unagi on a day 1 vote.
So you agree that Unagi would be a likely choice for the Count but find it better to lynch elsewhere. I see.

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:38 pm
by El Guapo
Remus West wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:09 pm
El Guapo wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:05 pm
Remus West wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:24 am  Unagi 
 


If he isn't the Alpha then whichever of you is probably chose him to avoid being chased by him.
Hmmm, this is actually a good point, although I still don't want to throw away Unagi on a day 1 vote.
So you agree that Unagi would be a likely choice for the Count but find it better to lynch elsewhere. I see.
I am always reluctant to lynch Unagi early (when there is little information) because he's so good at wolf hunting, so I don't want to throw that away unless and until there's firm suspicion of wolfiness.

I agree with your point that the odds of Unagi being a wolf are probably higher than the odds would be if the wolves were assigned purely by RNG.

However, it's still pretty speculative - without knowing *who* is picking (who the alpha is), going by who an unknown person might be inclined to pick, I'm not sure the "who would get picked?" is *all that* probative. Like last game the Alpha picked by RNG, right? So I'm not sure the value of that is enough to support lynching Unagi on day 1.

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:24 pm
by Remus West
I wasn't talking about "who was Alpha" though. I was simply speculating that Unagi would be a popular Count pick - regardless of who Alpha is - due to his ability to find wolves. Lets say that half the players, if picked as Alpha would pick Unagi as Count and the other half would pick Count by RNG.

Just from the first assumption that half the people would choose him he has better than 50/50 odds of being bad (6/11 in fact). Add in the chance to get randomly chosen and the odds he is bad go up.

All of which discounts people intentionally bucking the trend and not picking him simply because he would be likely to be picked etc. Still, it remains that of all the players he has the highest odds of being a bad guy.

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:31 pm
by Scoop20906
Kill the Alts!!!


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Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:36 pm
by El Guapo
Remus West wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:24 pm I wasn't talking about "who was Alpha" though. I was simply speculating that Unagi would be a popular Count pick - regardless of who Alpha is - due to his ability to find wolves. Lets say that half the players, if picked as Alpha would pick Unagi as Count and the other half would pick Count by RNG.

Just from the first assumption that half the people would choose him he has better than 50/50 odds of being bad (6/11 in fact). Add in the chance to get randomly chosen and the odds he is bad go up.

All of which discounts people intentionally bucking the trend and not picking him simply because he would be likely to be picked etc. Still, it remains that of all the players he has the highest odds of being a bad guy.
I just figure that the partner-picking methodology would vary a lot between different alphas. Like, some might do RNG, some might pick someone who is a great wolf-hunter, some might pick someone who is less likely to be lynched, some might pick someone with a specific in-thread wolf dynamic in mind, someone might pick a partner for the LOLs. And there's the whole "game of wits with a Sicilian with death on the line" factor thrown in, where you want to pick someone who you think everyone else thinks won't be picked.

All that is to say, Unagi probably has an elevated chance of being picked (though I'm not sure I would agree that it's the *highest* chance). But then I also assign players as being of different value to the village (if good), and Unagi has one of the highest values.

Re: Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith - Day 1

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:37 pm
by El Guapo
Scoop20906 wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:31 pm Kill the Alts!!!


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