That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons bring us some web forums whereupon we can gather
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Of course, the tenth time you wind up with a busted schnoz.ImLawBoy wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:29 am Nah, it's pretty easy really. Whenever Jeff says something really outrageous, just assume it's part of his curmudgeonly shtick. You'll be right 9 times out of 10.
I think a good analogy for not wearing a mask is drunk driving. Sure, you can get into an accident while sober, but the risk is FAR higher when under the influence.Lorini wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:32 pmThey do but anti maskers convince themselves of all kinds of bullshit to justify not wearing a mask. I'm sure a lot of them have been sickened and have died because of their insistence but some would call it evolution in action.Exodor wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:29 pmI wish mask-wearing protected the wearer instead of those around the wearer. Remember the early days of the pandemic when masks were in short supply because they were thought to provide protection? I think the mask "debate" just exposes how incredibly selfish many Americans can be.Skinypupy wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:08 pm Think about how many thousands of (10's of thousands? hundreds of thousands?) lives could have been saved if someone had simply told Trump at the onset that selling MAGA masks would be a huge money maker.
It's somewhat infuriating to consider, really.
I might even tweak the analogy to be about driving on the right side of the road. Sure, it's mildly inconvenient for an individual to only drive on one side, but if we all agree to do it together then there's gonna be a lot fewer deaths.Pyperkub wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:52 pmI think a good analogy for not wearing a mask is drunk driving. Sure, you can get into an accident while sober, but the risk is FAR higher when under the influence.Lorini wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:32 pmThey do but anti maskers convince themselves of all kinds of bullshit to justify not wearing a mask. I'm sure a lot of them have been sickened and have died because of their insistence but some would call it evolution in action.Exodor wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:29 pmI wish mask-wearing protected the wearer instead of those around the wearer. Remember the early days of the pandemic when masks were in short supply because they were thought to provide protection? I think the mask "debate" just exposes how incredibly selfish many Americans can be.Skinypupy wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:08 pm Think about how many thousands of (10's of thousands? hundreds of thousands?) lives could have been saved if someone had simply told Trump at the onset that selling MAGA masks would be a huge money maker.
It's somewhat infuriating to consider, really.
Also, the drunk thinks they are ok to drive, and in a lot of cases they will be able to get home safely, but they are a significantly greater risk to themselves, everyone in their car and everyone in their vicinity, and that risk is lethal. The drunk may not even know they caused an accident by someone else too.
Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler pepper-sprayed a man who got in his face without a mask on, according to a police report obtained by KGW.
In a follow up question, "they" is clarified to mean vaccine producers.In a call currently happening with governors across the country, Biden administration officials say they are increasing vaccine supply across the board 16% – from 8.6 million to 10 million. That's supposed to happen within weeks.
I'm waiting to get a write up, but my take from this now is that we've moved from shuffling a stockpile to a "just in time" delivery model for vaccines. That worked great for toilet paper, so I guess we can hope it will go better for vaccines.Slavitt: Any stockpile that may have existed, no longer exists. Practice is to have rolling inventory of 2-3 days of supply.
"But we are passing doses directly along to states...as soon as they have ordered them."
To quote the TN State Senator:State Senator Joey Hensley (R-Hohenwald) filed a bill for introduction that would amend certain aspects of the Tennessee Code relative to discrimination. Senate Bill 320 would expand the Code’s provisions to prevent businesses from denying services to individuals who don’t wear or use a certain medical device, or if they haven’t received a certain medical treatment. It would also prevent local government entities from enforcing individual compliance with those medical devices or treatments.
“I am sponsoring this bill on behalf of concerned constituents who do not want to be discriminated against if they choose not to wear a mask or receive the vaccine. This bill does not say people shouldn’t wear a mask or take the vaccine,” stated Hensley. “I would encourage anyone who is comfortable wearing a mask or getting the vaccine to do so. This legislation would merely allow people who have deeply-held objections to masks or vaccines the ability to opt-out. Businesses already cannot discriminate based on many factors such as race, religion, sex, and other medical conditions. This just adds medical device usage and medical treatment to that list.”
They deeply hold an objection to anything deemed to be a liberal idea. If today Fox News had a story on how much liberals think seatbelts are important, you can guarantee that by the end of today you'd have a bunch of Republicans cutting them out of their cars.Blackhawk wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:12 pm Just what sort of 'deeply held objections' can people have to masks? Not joining the army I get. Not supporting sexual 'things' (orientation, birth control, etc) I get - I deeply disagree with and don't think it's cause to discriminate, but at least I can see the basis of the objection. Seriously, I'd like to sit down and have a theological debate with these objectors.
"Deeply held" is typically code for "cult-like". FTFY!Smoove_B wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:16 pm "Deeply held" is typically code for "religious". In other words, they're trying to suggest - like they do for vaccinations - that there is a route to object under religious belief to wearing a mask.
I was telling a friend of mine that as well, it's the exact same thing in many ways. Fortunately seat belts are now accepted, at least where I live.
I think just about everyone wears seat belts these days, but I remember when I was a kid my best friend's dad actually cut the buckle off of the seat belt strap and plugged it into connector just so he wouldn't hear the bell or see the light reminding him to put his seat belt on.Lorini wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:03 pmI was telling a friend of mine that as well, it's the exact same thing in many ways. Fortunately seat belts are now accepted, at least where I live.
The Pentagon is considering sending active duty troops to large-scale, federally run coronavirus vaccine centers, the first significant sign that the Biden administration is moving to take more control of a program that states are struggling to manage.
I am surprised they're surprised. In the same way the overwhelming majority of senior citizens in the state of NJ aren't vaccinated yet because they don't have the ability to easily and quickly snatch up online registration slots. I would genuinely love to sit down with someone (anyone) at the state level and ask they how on earth they expected the elder population to somehow navigate the COVID registration process. For reference, the state launched a phone line earlier this week - three weeks into the vaccination process.A Covid-19 vaccination site in a Latino neighborhood in New York City hard hit by the pandemic saw an overwhelming number of White people from outside the community show up to get the shot this month, city leaders say, laying bare a national disparity that shows people of color are being vaccinated at dramatically lower rates.
Lawmakers who represent Washington Heights and a doctor who staffed the site last week said the first wave of vaccinations went to many White New Yorkers over 65 who traveled to the Armory from other parts of the city and state.
Mayor Bill de Blasio on Friday called it "outrageous."
"The more I learn about this, the angrier I get," de Blasio said during a virtual press briefing. "Somehow instead of focusing on the Latino community of Washington Heights, a place that really was hit hard by Covid, instead the approach was somehow conducive to folks from outside the community coming and getting vaccinated but not folks who live right there in Washington Heights. Totally backwards."
this is the sort of thing that happens with a technocratic mindset...Smoove_B wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:36 pm
I am surprised they're surprised. In the same way the overwhelming majority of senior citizens in the state of NJ aren't vaccinated yet because they don't have the ability to easily and quickly snatch up online registration slots. I would genuinely love to sit down with someone (anyone) at the state level and ask they how on earth they expected the elder population to somehow navigate the COVID registration process.
Someone in LA died every 6 minutes and 18 seconds today from COVID.
The working class is being sacrificed for dinner.
You might actually enjoy this article:hitbyambulance wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:39 pmthis is the sort of thing that happens with a technocratic mindset...
Her frustration is echoed by millions of Americans who have struggled to get vaccines through various chaotic systems. But unlike others in some states, she wasn’t encountering these problems with a third-party consumer service like Eventbrite, or even through an antiquated government system. She was on the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s brand-new, $44 million website called VAMS—the Vaccine Administration Management System, built by the consulting firm Deloitte.
Unless you’re in one of the few states using it, you may not have heard of VAMS. But it was supposed to be a one-stop shop where employers, state officials, clinics, and individuals could manage scheduling, inventory, and reporting for covid shots—and free for anyone to use.
and here we have located the problem
The same criticism applies in MA. The state set up a website where one answers some questions to determine eligibility. If one passes, it displays a map showing vaccination sites. One then clicks on the site that's most convenient, tries to book an appointment, finds out there aren't any, and gets kicked back out to the map. Repeat until frustration wins. That's annoying even for a savvy web user, never mind a septuagenarian.hitbyambulance wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:39 pmthis is the sort of thing that happens with a technocratic mindset...Smoove_B wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:36 pm
I am surprised they're surprised. In the same way the overwhelming majority of senior citizens in the state of NJ aren't vaccinated yet because they don't have the ability to easily and quickly snatch up online registration slots. I would genuinely love to sit down with someone (anyone) at the state level and ask they how on earth they expected the elder population to somehow navigate the COVID registration process.
Went to get carry out yesterday and the bar next door was open for [indoor] business.Smoove_B wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:50 pm https://twitter.com/SvenAntifaCat/statu ... 0639106048
Someone in LA died every 6 minutes and 18 seconds today from COVID.
The working class is being sacrificed for dinner.