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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 7:52 pm
by hepcat
I was wondering if the end of the second season of Loki was intended as a last minute finale for the Kang character. They could certainly point to that as such if they decide to drop the Kang storyline completely.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 8:22 pm
by msteelers
hepcat wrote:I was wondering if the end of the second season of Loki was intended as a last minute finale for the Kang character. They could certainly point to that as such if they decide to drop the Kang storyline completely.
Yeah. I don’t know when filming happened and if it was before or after the allegations came out. But I wouldnt be surprised if they wrote the ending to be a de facto ending for the character.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 8:26 pm
by Zarathud
They can still focus on the multiverse and conflict between the timelines. If Loki is the weaver, he’s also the God of Mischef. And not above letting a few variants to torment Earth on the “sacred” timeline.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 8:26 pm
by hepcat
Loki’s final character arc provides a far more interesting character than Kang, imho.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:26 pm
by Blackhawk
msteelers wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 8:22 pm
hepcat wrote:I was wondering if the end of the second season of Loki was intended as a last minute finale for the Kang character. They could certainly point to that as such if they decide to drop the Kang storyline completely.
Yeah. I don’t know when filming happened and if it was before or after the allegations came out. But I wouldnt be surprised if they wrote the ending to be a de facto ending for the character.
Quick, to the research!

Nope, filming ended five months before the incident in question, and there were no reshoots.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:17 am
by msteelers
No reshoots? That doesn’t sound like marvel!

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:25 am
by hepcat
They may have decided to get rid of Majors at the end of season 1 after watching his acting style result in the destruction of all their furniture by jumping around on it in his scenes.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:26 pm
by Punisher
Since they have the multiverse changing actors will be a non issue. They can just recast and say the new one is Kang Ultimate. The Loki versions were just those specific varients. They can still do a Kang war.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:20 pm
by Sudy
The Fantastic Four principal cast has been announced.

Mister Fantastic - Pedro Pascal
Invisible Woman - Vanessa Kirby
Human Torch - Joseph Quinn
Thing - Ebon Moss-Bachrach

Those are some pretty people in the primes of their popularity. I think I like the castings (they're talented actors), but they feel a little cynical to me in the sense that these are much-loved television darlings with maximum butts-in-seats potential for their cost.

Too bad Krasinski doesn't get a shot.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:31 pm
by hepcat
Now let's just hope they don't cast Stratocumulus as Galactus again.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:07 pm
by Blackhawk
But I like Pedro Pascal. I hope I can suspend my disbelief enough to see him as a character who can't speak without me wanting to punch him in the nose.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:35 pm
by Isgrimnur
hepcat wrote:Now let's just hope they don't cast Stratocumulus as Galactus again.
Release the mammatus cut!

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:38 pm
by hepcat
Blackhawk wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:07 pm But I like Pedro Pascal. I hope I can suspend my disbelief enough to see him as a character who can't speak without me wanting to punch him in the nose.
You hate Reed Richards?

Image

Never mind, I get it.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:51 pm
by hentzau
I was really hoping for John K. as Reed. I thought he was great as him in his brief appearance in Multiverse of Madness.

FF is near and dear to my heart. If I had a comic book team that was nearer and dearer it would be the Legion, but I'm not expecting there to ever be a Legion movie. I've been wanting a GOOD FF movie ever since the first Iron Man movie showed what a modern superhero movie could do.

I mean, really, The Incredibles is pretty much the FF movie that I wanted. But I can still hope, right?

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 6:13 pm
by gilraen
hentzau wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:51 pm I was really hoping for John K. as Reed. I thought he was great as him in his brief appearance in Multiverse of Madness.
I didn't think that was ever an option, they made it pretty clear that the Dr. Strange appearance was a one-and-done. Adam Driver was in talks with the studio for the role but apparently that fell through as well.

I like Pedro Pascal but I'm not sure I can picture him as Reed. But then again, the previous actors that played Reed did it with so little charisma, my vision of the character is totally skewed at this point.

Vanessa Kirby seems like a good choice for Sue Storm. I never heard of the other two actors.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 6:55 pm
by Blackhawk
hepcat wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:38 pm
Blackhawk wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:07 pm But I like Pedro Pascal. I hope I can suspend my disbelief enough to see him as a character who can't speak without me wanting to punch him in the nose.
You hate Reed Richards?
He's a smug, arrogant know-it-all who often skirts the line of right and wrong in order to achieve what he needs to.

He isn't always wrong, but he's never been written as likeable.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:06 pm
by hepcat
He’s cut from the same cloth as Thor, Stark, Strange…

Also, this is for you


Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:15 pm
by Blackhawk
hepcat wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:06 pm He’s a hero. Almost all heroes are smug pricks more often than not. Thor, Stark, Strange…
All cuddly sweethearts compared to Richards.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:20 pm
by hepcat
I changed my post while you were replying, sorry. But Stark during the Civil War series was no better or worse than Richards.

I think because I am an old school comic reader, I remember that he’s been good and bad and I don’t see him as standing out in either arena. Besides, you don’t get a lifelong friend like Benjamin Grimm if you’re always insufferably awful. :wink:

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:40 pm
by Blackhawk
Nah, Ben is awesome. He and Sue are the saving grace of the FF.

And it was the Civil War series that finally made me so anti-Richards.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:46 pm
by hepcat
Blackhawk wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:40 pm Nah, Ben is awesome.
Tell the Yancy Street Gang that

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:54 pm
by Blackhawk
hepcat wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:46 pm
Blackhawk wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:40 pm Nah, Ben is awesome.
Tell the Yancy Street Gang that
That Peter Tingle came just a second too late there...

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:38 pm
by Punisher
hentzau wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:51 pm I was really hoping for John K. as Reed. I thought he was great as him in his brief appearance in Multiverse of Madness.
I feel the same way. I really think he could have pulled it off in a feature length film.
Plus he's been a fan favorite for Reed for a long time.
I think they might have bit themselves in the butt with this.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:42 pm
by El Guapo
Punisher wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:38 pm
hentzau wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:51 pm I was really hoping for John K. as Reed. I thought he was great as him in his brief appearance in Multiverse of Madness.
I feel the same way. I really think he could have pulled it off in a feature length film.
Plus he's been a fan favorite for Reed for a long time.
I think they might have bit themselves in the butt with this.
The internet seems to indicate that there were a lot of people unhappy with John K's performance in Multiverse of Madness.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:58 pm
by hepcat
It's the internet. There's also a lot of people unhappy with the guy playing me on OO too.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 6:40 pm
by Punisher
hepcat wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:58 pm It's the internet. There's also a lot of people unhappy with the guy playing me on OO too.
I tjink people are just mostly sus that anyone would have a Golden Girls fetish and thus your performance is unrealistic.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:11 am
by AWS260
gilraen wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 6:13 pm I never heard of the other two actors.
Ben Grimm is the guy on the right in this scene. Really good actor.


Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 12:04 am
by Isgrimnur
Robert Downey Jr. Sets Marvel Return as Doctor Doom in ‘Avengers: Doomsday’
Robert Downey Jr. is returning to the Marvel Cinematic Universe as Doctor Doom in a new “Avengers” movie titled “Avengers: Doomsday,” which will be directed by Joe and Anthony Russo in their own return to Marvel. The directing duo is on deck to helm two new “Avengers” movie: “Doomsday,” which will introduce Victor von Doom/Doctor Doom, and “Avengers: Secret Wars.”
Looks like Kang has met ... his Doom.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 7:05 am
by msteelers
I saw this news last night and assumed it was a made up story from some fan made account. Then realized I was looking at the official Marvel Studios Twitter account.

As much as I love the MCU and especially the movies that the Russo Bros directed, I am all sorts of conflicted about this. I can only hope that their pitch was so good that it won over marvel and RDJ, but I’m not very confident yet.

Time will tell I guess.

Im assuming this is a multiverse Dr Doom, and not one from the main MCU timeline. I also hope they have some scene where our heroes think they are looking at Tony Stark to at least acknowledge the casting choice.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 8:17 am
by Smoove_B
msteelers wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 7:05 am Im assuming this is a multiverse Dr Doom, and not one from the main MCU timeline. I also hope they have some scene where our heroes think they are looking at Tony Stark to at least acknowledge the casting choice.
Maybe...

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 8:54 am
by hepcat
I'm not a fan of this announcement. Downey has spent a LOT of time saying he was done with Marvel at this point. He left on a high note. To return in what I see as a stunt casting attempt just cheapens all that.

But RDJ is a fantastic actor, so I'll reserve final judgement for the actual movie, I guess.

In any case, I've been told phase seven will introduce my dream team movie: Paste Pot Pete and Stilt-man.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 9:42 am
by Unagi
hepcat wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 8:54 am In any case, I've been told phase seven will introduce my dream team movie: Paste Pot Pete and Stilt-man.
But don't lose track of the horrible timeline we are in. You'll get your dream team - but phase 7 will be written, produced, and directed by MW.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 10:11 am
by hepcat
Someone thinks so highly of Mark Wahlberg they feel like they can just use his initials, I see. :naughty:

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 10:45 am
by Unagi
I was trying not to trigger you.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 7:11 pm
by Scuzz
Smoove_B wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 8:17 am
msteelers wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 7:05 am Im assuming this is a multiverse Dr Doom, and not one from the main MCU timeline. I also hope they have some scene where our heroes think they are looking at Tony Stark to at least acknowledge the casting choice.
Maybe...
I told my wife that Dr. Doom would be revealed as Tony Stark from another multiverse.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 7:40 pm
by hepcat
Did she yell "nerd", shove you over and then give you a wedgie?

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 11:01 pm
by Blackhawk
Talking comics doesn't usually lead directly to foreplay...

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:36 pm
by Scuzz
Yea, it was a good time.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2024 9:54 am
by pr0ner
msteelers wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 7:05 am I saw this news last night and assumed it was a made up story from some fan made account. Then realized I was looking at the official Marvel Studios Twitter account.

As much as I love the MCU and especially the movies that the Russo Bros directed, I am all sorts of conflicted about this. I can only hope that their pitch was so good that it won over marvel and RDJ, but I’m not very confident yet.

Time will tell I guess.

Im assuming this is a multiverse Dr Doom, and not one from the main MCU timeline. I also hope they have some scene where our heroes think they are looking at Tony Stark to at least acknowledge the casting choice.
Money talks. $80M for the Russos to direct, and more than that for RDJ. And the only way RDJ would come back to Marvel was if the Russos were back as well.

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2024 11:45 am
by msteelers
Yeah. You knew it was going to be a huge payday, but that’s massive if it’s all up front and doesn’t account for any back end revenue.

I’ll just cling to the hope that the Russos also happen to have a great story idea. Supposedly Secret Wars has been their ideal project from the beginning.