Blood Sucking Freaks Redux. Fin.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:24 pm

Kraegor wrote:amusing how another bullshit wagon is rolling by, wherein evidence is virtually non-existant.

/wave

Seriously Kraegor, wtf? Why should we let people slide by without saying a word? You point out lack of evidence; how the hell are we supposed to get evidence when people won't talk? Why play the game if you're going to post 4 times the whole thing?

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:39 pm

Austin wrote:
Kraegor wrote:amusing how another bullshit wagon is rolling by, wherein evidence is virtually non-existant.

/wave
Seriously Kraegor, wtf? Why should we let people slide by without saying a word? You point out lack of evidence; how the hell are we supposed to get evidence when people won't talk? Why play the game if you're going to post 4 times the whole thing?

Riiight. As history has shown the vast majority of evil players do nothing throughout the game....there was that game where all the bad guys did nothing...yup it's all clear to me now....

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Is lack of participation frustrating? Certainly. Is it a reason to start offing the spectators? No. How is pr0ner a better target the FTWalker?????? Your "case" is weak because it's inconsistant. You are not even going after the worst offender....

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:41 pm

on the other hand...pr0ner has a history of over-reacting to suspicion...so the reason I think Bakhtosh and Austin are highly suspect...is because they are choosing pr0ner for his ability to look guilty.

so altho tru1cy may have been slightly off...perhaps 1 person on his suspicion list was accurate, eh?

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:50 pm

Kraegor wrote:
Is lack of participation frustrating? Certainly. Is it a reason to start offing the spectators? No. How is pr0ner a better target the FTWalker?????? Your "case" is weak because it's inconsistant. You are not even going after the worst offender....

I'm going after Pr0ner and if you hadn't noticed Lassr has an FTWalker vote going. People are free to jump on whichever one they see fit; or none at all. Obviously others see something wrong with Pr0ner being asked to give us some input and he just posts a vote. These games would be a blast if we all sat back and decided not to participate.

Newcaslte has been participating and while I see the vampishness in his quick Genghis vote, he also had a really good point. Genghis explained it and he backed off it. That isn't to excuse him but I can't believe that you are willing to let the quiet ones float through the game. Did you sire Pr0ner or something?

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:07 pm

when the vast majority of evidence from game after game has shown that quiet players are quiet because they have no role..... yes I can see how it would be shocking for me to disregard it as a pressing point.

How does 1 turn constitute allowing them to "float" thru the game?
How is it you wish to ignore actual evidence and chase after whimsy?

And newcastle backed off, when he noticed he had no leg to stand on.

Genghis · Post by **Genghis** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:11 pm

In alot of these games at least one of the vamps is normally a silent one.

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:12 pm

Genghis wrote:In alot of these games at least one of the vamps is normally a silent one.

true.

we have potentially how many vamps????
do you think it wise to chase after the lowest percentage target?????

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:14 pm

if the answer is yes (to my last question) I'm hosting a poker game over by the commons house next to the lynch pole. By all means please join in....

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:18 pm

Kraegor wrote:when the vast majority of evidence from game after game has shown that quiet players are quiet because they have no role..... yes I can see how it would be shocking for me to disregard it as a pressing point.

How does 1 turn constitute allowing them to "float" thru the game?
How is it you wish to ignore actual evidence and chase after whimsy?

And newcastle backed off, when he noticed he had no leg to stand on.

Okay, step back and calm down.

1 turn perhaps, but we're talking about 11 pages. Also if you notice that vamps tend to be participatory, why wouldn't they and sit back and watch us squabble?

Next point: I'm fine with voting for Newcastle. Why however, are you in such a hurry to get another lynch without hearing from everyone first? What insight has pr0ner offered yet? What about FTWalker? Why aren't you voting for someone quiet first to get them in the game even if to withdraw once they come out? Even if innocent, maybe they're picking up on something we're missing. If guilty maybe they slip up. I made it clear from the time I voted Pr0ner that it was to get him to come and play with us. I didn't hammer on him, just voted. He chose to ignore it for whatever reason.

I wish some others would jump on FTWalker too. Let's get some feedback and then once we have as much as possible, vote for the one with the most evidence against them.

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:28 pm

Study my gaming style. I am willing to "poke the quiet" in round 1. Beyond that round 1, I choose to discard that approach.

Am I in a hurry? Or am I simply putting a halt to a wagon that gained unreasoned speed?

, vote for the one with the most evidence against them.

sure, and if we had followed that axiom, we would have lynched newcastle instead of tru1cy. lol.

let's recall the evidence against tru1cy was that bakhtosh got confused and then accused. the rest of you said "yipppeee yeehaww!!". course there was an attempt to blame triggercut for the whole thing...even tho he changed his vote to newcastle...but let's gloss over that point....

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:03 pm

Austin do you acknowledge the greater likelihood that your current strategy is more likely to out a special than it will a vamp?

Is that your goal?

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:06 pm

Kraegor wrote:Austin do you acknowledge the greater likelihood that your current strategy is more likely to out a special than it will a vamp?

Is that your goal?

Actually, I've read what you said and haven't replied because I'm considering it.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:13 pm

I'm innocent. Not that you guys would believe me or anything.

I went Newcastle since the one "trustworthy" player in the entire game went that way.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:19 pm

Doesn't explain your vote for me

My old nemesis

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:21 pm

withdraw pr0ner

Lynch FTWalker

My intent is not to see a silent be lynched without speaking. It is certainly not to get specials to come out either. I built no case against pr0ner, just asked him to say something. Same for FTWalker. If a special chooses to remain silent and not participate, they're doing themselves an injustice and should play the game so as not to attract 'lynch the silent votes'. Silence gives the vampires quarter.

My intent is to gather as much info to vote on as possible. End of story.

PR_GMR · Post by **PR_GMR** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:25 pm

pr0ner wrote:I'm innocent. Not that you guys would believe me or anything.

I went Newcastle since the one "trustworthy" player in the entire game went that way.

Sure, you are, my dear laddie. *Now* you choose to speak.. after trying to stay in the shadows and jumping on bandwagons to get other laddies lynched without arising suspicion.

My vote for you stays certain.

Bakhtosh · Post by **Bakhtosh** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:28 pm

pr0ner wrote:I'm innocent. Not that you guys would believe me or anything.

I went Newcastle since the one "trustworthy" player in the entire game went that way.

We've followed a relatively minor known innocent to our demise before.

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:29 pm

Here's the thing: the second game I ever participated in here, the "quiet ones" played us and the werewolves won. Ever since then, I've been suspicious.

Here's the other side of that coin: if you're a quiet but innocent or powered villager, *why are you not speaking up?* The way the game is dragging, you have to assume that quiet people are going to get popped. Trying to hide in plain view is a strategy that simply doesn't work anymore, and if you're trying to play it at this point in this game, you're not helping your team, whichever team that is.

So. While I can be somewhat convinced to go pr0ner, I'm more likely leaning toward FTWalker, but wish to note that I have not registered an official vote at this time.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:14 pm

sweet ole discussion got to love it.

Kraeggor - reason i backed off Genghis was to give time a chance to happen. Time where Genghis claim to being Medium could be contested. Do i think he is the medium, quite possibly. Do i know. No, because there is no way to prove it 100% until the end of the game. I can understand why you might think i am guilty, i actually do. However, i would urge you to take that out of your analysis and rethink it. Your accusations of me are creating further confusion in your mind. Also, dont you think that if I were a vamp why would i risk myself in tryin to bandwagon the medium? Honestly, it would not be worth 1 vampires life to do that. Now if he had claimed to be the seer...dont you think that would be worth a vampires life in terms of bandwagoning (assuming we're int he same situation). Think about it. I hope that can further shed light upon things.

Couple of things that i think:

Now, I honestly think that Proner is the most suspect person to me. It's obvious that he is following this, and he is placing his votes when he can. He is following the voting, and definitely putting his finger up to the breeze and seeing which way the wind is blowing. that's definitely suspicious to me.

Pr-gmr - He is another one who is high on my list. I think of him also as an oportunistic voter as well. When i came out and called him on his herd like voting, his vote shifted (well the reaction was delayed, but his vote did shift.

As far as the "poking the quiet" debate. I am all for poking, prodding, and even (as a last resort) lynching the quiet. Why? because this game is based on participation, we the players need to see what the others are thinking and why they are acting or voting in certain situations. People who just skate on by and in contribute nothing, thereby leaving certain holes in the analyses of other players. Also, and this is a huge part of it...as austin said, it gives vampires quarter to hide. There was one game i was in, where I was a vamp, and one person was MIA for a long section of time. This person, by being absent thoroughly hurt the villages chances at detecting the vamps. The lesson= silence creates doubt, cover for the vamps, and does not solidify anything.

Now another thought that popped through my head - I think we will know after tonight wether a conversion happened on night 1. Tonight I think is the last night for a conversion to take place. Simply because the numbers of people are lessening. I think if tonight there is a kill, we can pretty much go with the basic analysis that Night 1 was a conversion. I cant see the vamps holding out much longer in terms of converting. I have given this some thought, and I have actually come up with two pools of suspects: those who would convert on night 1 and those who would convert later on in the game.

Something that I think we should all think about is this: if you were a vampire...who would you want to recruit and be a vamp with you? Am dead serious about. I have given this some thought and have come up with a shortlist in my mind. I would urge each of you to do the same.

Now where does that lead us: I am going to go with pressing the silent ones (do note that my vote can and could potentially change).

ftwalker I know you are busy, i know you are tryin to help your wife...but a village is at stake here man!

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:19 pm

pr0ner wrote:I'm innocent. Not that you guys would believe me or anything.

I went Newcastle since the one "trustworthy" player in the entire game went that way.

Who would that be?

Bakhtosh · Post by **Bakhtosh** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:26 pm

He has returned to the depths from whence he spawned.

Silent players don't help the village. They don't help themselves. They only help the vamps, and I'll put my votes on those who help the vamps.

And in reply to Kraegor who asked:

do you acknowledge the greater likelihood that your current strategy is more likely to out a special than it will a vamp?

a wise person once said:

the vast majority of evidence from game after game has shown that quiet players are quiet because they have no role

Make up your mind man. Are the silents ones special or non-roled?

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:31 pm

Newk (

Given that we had a kill last night, but not on night one...I think that the odds so greatly favor that a conversion took place on Night 1 that we need to drop the speculation and just figure that to be fact.

So. What do we have concrete here?

1. Genghis claims to be the Medium. No one contradicts that claim. In absence of any other knowledge, I'd have to say that he's telling the truth.

2. tru1cy was an innocent. We know he was a villager via the Stake, we can be 92% certain he was unpowered thanks to Genghis reporting his Medium scan.

3. I think it to be very, very likely that a conversion happened on the first turn.

My internet access time will be a bit limited today. Let me get on-record:

FT Walker.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:22 pm

I believe this is the current vote count:

FTWalker - 4
Newcastle - 3
Pr0ner - 2

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:22 pm

I'm tempted to go along with FTWalker, but if he's been busy, and AWOL as a result, how did the killing of Remus West happen so quickly if FTWalker is vampy?

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:29 pm

pr0ner wrote:I'm tempted to go along with FTWalker, but if he's been busy, and AWOL as a result, how did the killing of Remus West happen so quickly if FTWalker is vampy?

"Hey fellow vamps, I'll be away but I'm ok in whatever decision you make. I don't want to hold up the game." e.g.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:00 pm

Lassr wrote:
pr0ner wrote:I'm tempted to go along with FTWalker, but if he's been busy, and AWOL as a result, how did the killing of Remus West happen so quickly if FTWalker is vampy?
"Hey fellow vamps, I'll be away but I'm ok in whatever decision you make. I don't want to hold up the game." e.g.

Ah.

Analyzing.

FTWalker · Post by **FTWalker** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:10 pm

ooc/ Burning then Lightscribing 20+ photo CD's (with music, no less), then printing covers for them, is taking a fair bit of time... more than I expected /ooc

I doubt that I can provide any reasoning to not vote for me that will overturn the "bandwagon effect", but here's what I've got:
I could have a role... I could be a vamp... I could be a nobody - all I can say is that I'm not a vamp.
If I survive this day, I invite the seer to scan me, proving I'm innocent.
If the scan did reveal me as a vamp (which it wouldn't), it would mean that the seer should come forward... but the hunter could then do his daylight staking and leave the lynching open for someone else. Also, the night after the seer has come forward, the garlic dispenser could protect him from the remaining vamp(s), allowing the seer another scan in safety.
One other thing about the seer coming forward - the results of the previous scans could be made public, thus clearing/incriminating up to 4 people before they would be in any danger.
If the seer doesn't want to come forward, he could still start a bandwagon on me tomorrow (if I were a vamp, and if I survive today).
Not a smart thing to suggest if I were a vamp.
(Note: If someone claims to be the seer but isn't - the real one needs to challenge them.)

Still contemplating a vote at this time.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:12 pm

pr0ner wrote:
Lassr wrote:
pr0ner wrote:I'm tempted to go along with FTWalker, but if he's been busy, and AWOL as a result, how did the killing of Remus West happen so quickly if FTWalker is vampy?
"Hey fellow vamps, I'll be away but I'm ok in whatever decision you make. I don't want to hold up the game." e.g.
Ah.

Analyzing.

But I'm not convinced he's a vampire but I would like to hear from him. Right now I'm not very certain of anyone...the more games are played the more people perfect their playing style and you really have to look for that one screw up no matter how small. That's why we jumped on Genghis so quick...turns out he was a good guy or at least 95% certain he is.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:14 pm

speak of the devil...

withdraw FTWalker

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:33 am

Ok, so some stuff that I infer from posts thus far:

Lassr, Triggercut, Newcastle, Bakhtosh, pr0ner - not converted, not vampire

Austin remembers there's a Vampire that can scan, but can't remember the name of the role for the Good Guys that scans. High probability he has a Role.

Bakhtosh can't remember the title of the Garlic Dispenser (Garlic Guy, Garlic Spreader). Recalls the Seer (seer, austin, SEER) has the ability to PM.

I believe it highly likely that Austin and Kraegor are 2 of the 3 vampires.

tru1cy and remus are dead. (ok, those are less inferred and perhaps more factual)

Genghis is either (a) medium, (b) a vampire who knows the medium has been converted

Which leaves me with PR_GMR and FTWalker to choose from as current suspect number three.

I will go back over the posts again for voting and discussion between these four.

Austin, Kraegor, PR_GMR/FTWalker

thoughts?

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:00 am

Good morning. I have to catch up but for now, withdraw FTWalker.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:44 am

Welcome back Chaosraven, nice of you to join us. While I do like your lists, I don't care much for that post.

Two things.

I always, in every game, play fast and loose with the names/titles of special roles. Go check. Interesting that you choose to point out my lack of using proper terms for the seer/mage, but say "Austin remembers there's a Vampire that can scan". I think you're smart enough to realize that I know that there is a good guy that can scan too. You are taking two separate items and linking them together to cast guilt on me. But you don't make those types of mistakes, or do you?

Secondly, kindly don't link me to Kraegor. I don't know if he's a vampire or not. I observed that he was starting to bully people a bit and chose to step in. Were I a vampire I'd have stayed out of the whole thing and let him continue his trist with Bakhtosh, or Lassr or whoever. I was simply trying to draw silents out, and actually you were my next vote after FTWalker had you not stepped up this morning.

PR_GMR · Post by **PR_GMR** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:56 am

Good move by FTWalker--the poor man was about to get lynched just for being away from his computer helping his wife.

austin wrote:Secondly, kindly don't link me to Kraegor. I don't know if he's a vampire or not. I observed that he was starting to bully people a bit and chose to step in.

Notice how Kraegor started doing such bullying after more than 2 votes were cast for pr0ner. Before that, he was pretty quiet....

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:57 am

you know the funny thing for me, is each time i start to reread this thread I think of new variations. I have shortlist of people who I do suspect and those whom i dont. Of course this si my own two cents, this is my own thinking and methodology, and how i have come to "feel the game" right now. I would urge each of you to form your own opinions and analysis.

Those I "trust" - Austin, and Baktosh - I wouldnt say i trust them explicitly but I would tend to think that the way they are playing I can infer that they are human. Now, dont take it for granted this list. This is just my two cents. They are acting in a way of tryin to figure out this mess.

Upper middle ground - Triggercut, and Genghis - these guys are probably human, but I am not too certain. They are not that high on my suspect list.

The lower middle ground - Lassr, Kraeggor, - I can go either way with these guys. Some times I am thinkign they are innocent as lambs, other times I wonder if there is a nefarious purpose behind their posts. Kraeggor I think is quite combatitive. While Lassr i do think he is tryin to figure things out for the humans, i cant get a good read on him.

Those on my Raised eyebrow list - Proner, CR, and PR_Gmr. - These folks I find to be highly suspicious. Proner an PR_GMR i find to be more suspsicious than anyone else, and it is really based on their voting methodology....which is a raise yoru finger int he air and see which way the wind is blowing.

CR - now the main reason I suspect CR is that he would be a great person to convert to a vamp. The other eason is that some of his previous lists that he posted, while interesting, didn't make me see clearer. the other thign, that makes me wonder is that he has been hanging back in the last few days, well since RW died. He has posted, but they have been small. I think he has deliberately kept a very low profile. Now I wonder if thats so the debate doesnt focus back in on the CR-RW death express connection and he is genuinely afraid of the frameup; or if he is in fact holding his breath, trying to get away with the murder of Remus.

Needs help in RL - FTwalker - enough said, in effect not going to have much of an impact ont his game during this part.

I think I might have to go with

Pr_GMR There is something about the way he is voting that bugs me. The other thing that also bugs me is check out his post right after Ralph announces the death of Remus. Kind of eerie.

PR_GMR · Post by **PR_GMR** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:03 am

newcastle wrote:Pr_GMR There is something about the way he is voting that bugs me. The other thing that also bugs me is check out his post right after Ralph announces the death of Remus. Kind of eerie.

There's a fairly good explanation for that post. Remus died both on this game, and got lynched on Grund's Stormbringer 2 within the same few hours. I was just poking some fun at Remus' bad luck. Nothing more than that.

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:06 am

now now. don't distort. Austin, I was mainly bullying you.

Ok, so some stuff that I infer from posts thus far:

Lassr, Triggercut, Newcastle, Bakhtosh, pr0ner - not converted, not vampire

Austin remembers there's a Vampire that can scan, but can't remember the name of the role for the Good Guys that scans. High probability he has a Role.

Bakhtosh can't remember the title of the Garlic Dispenser (Garlic Guy, Garlic Spreader). Recalls the Seer (seer, austin, SEER) has the ability to PM.

I believe it highly likely that Austin and Kraegor are 2 of the 3 vampires.

tru1cy and remus are dead. (ok, those are less inferred and perhaps more factual)

Genghis is either (a) medium, (b) a vampire who knows the medium has been converted

Which leaves me with PR_GMR and FTWalker to choose from as current suspect number three.

I will go back over the posts again for voting and discussion between these four.

Austin, Kraegor, PR_GMR/FTWalker

thoughts?

well, I've only defended the innocent so it makes sense you would target me. Whereas you bandwagoned tru1cy like a good little vamp.

you label newcastle and bahktosh as fully innocent which is laughable considering their postings so far have indicated nothing but "honest confusion" that is designed to lynch innocents. remind me, who helped move that wagon along???

what do i think?? Well judging from your analysis, I certainly find you suspicious. Not because of your suspicion of me. you always suspect me. I find you vampish because of the people you have listed as "trustworthy".

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:15 am

PR_GMR wrote:Good move by FTWalker--the poor man was about to get lynched just for being away from his computer helping his wife.

austin wrote:Secondly, kindly don't link me to Kraegor. I don't know if he's a vampire or not. I observed that he was starting to bully people a bit and chose to step in.
Notice how Kraegor started doing such bullying after more than 2 votes were cast for pr0ner. Before that, he was pretty quiet....

I tried to prevent tru1cy's death via simplicity. That accomplished????? well...tru1cy died so i spose....not much.

I followed a different pattern because:

1) I do not agree with Austin's plan.
2) Chaos is not an innocent and thus I move to pre-empt his ramblings.
3) Bahktosh again moves to lynch via a wagon based on posting he finds "suspicious" when the posts contain NOTHING.
4) Remus is dead which means one less spotlight shining into the darkness. regardless of how faulty/cracked that spotlight was....

Did I mention I consider PR_GMR vampish as well? perhaps the convert, eh? Mainly because he was being dense with regards to Genghis....as if he were trying to get the seer to bite down on some bait.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:21 am

Kraegor wrote:now now. don't distort. Austin, I was mainly bullying you.

Heh. This is what I was watching.

To PR_GMR "get a new prescription...."

To Lassr"neither. irrelevant tangent."

Disrespecting the dead. "I wouldn't. I prefer to allow Remus the joy of slaughtering the village in broad daylight."

To Bakhtosh "<golf clap>"

This one just contains a strange point. You imply that you some how knew Tru1cy was innocent, or am I inferring? "It's like deja vu....Kraegor's evil!!! LOOK!!! He tried to save an innocent!!!!"

Toward anyone poking the silents, specifically Pr0ner. "amusing how another bullshit wagon is rolling by, wherein evidence is virtually non-existant. "

Not until then did I step in and call you on your posts/defense of people remaining silent. Your whole tone had changed and I was fully prepared for and expecting you to turn on me. Turns out you feel the silence is good for specials to hide in, while I feel it gives bad guys (in general Chaos, I know they are called vampires in this game

) a place to hide.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:30 am

Austin wrote:
Kraegor wrote:now now. don't distort. Austin, I was mainly bullying you.
Heh. This is what I was watching.

To PR_GMR "get a new prescription...."

To Lassr"neither. irrelevant tangent."

Disrespecting the dead. "I wouldn't. I prefer to allow Remus the joy of slaughtering the village in broad daylight."

To Bakhtosh "<golf clap>"

This one just contains a strange point. You imply that you some how knew Tru1cy was innocent, or am I inferring? "It's like deja vu....Kraegor's evil!!! LOOK!!! He tried to save an innocent!!!!"

Toward anyone poking the silents, specifically Pr0ner. "amusing how another bullshit wagon is rolling by, wherein evidence is virtually non-existant. "

Not until then did I step in and call you on your posts/defense of people remaining silent. Your whole tone had changed and I was fully prepared for and expecting you to turn on me. Turns out you feel the silence is good for specials to hide in, while I feel it gives bad guys (in general Chaos, I know they are called vampires in this game ) a place to hide.

+ 1

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:33 am

Austin wrote:

To PR_GMR "get a new prescription...."

He was being dense. I poked to see if I would get a reaction.

Austin wrote:
To Lassr"neither. irrelevant tangent."

by all means tell me...how often does this topic come up....EVERY GAME perhaps? How many times has it been relevant?

Austin wrote:
Disrespecting the dead. "I wouldn't. I prefer to allow Remus the joy of slaughtering the village in broad daylight."

I always like to refer to the birth of remuscide.

Austin wrote:
To Bakhtosh "<golf clap>"

This one just contains a strange point. You imply that you some how knew Tru1cy was innocent, or am I inferring? "It's like deja vu....Kraegor's evil!!! LOOK!!! He tried to save an innocent!!!!"

Toward anyone poking the silents, specifically Pr0ner. "amusing how another bullshit wagon is rolling by, wherein evidence is virtually non-existant. "

Part of my stop the madness campaign. In addition, I've sparred with Bahktosh over killing tru1cy on 2 other occasions IIRC. Simply an homage to the past while also achknowledging concerns for the present.

Austin wrote:
Not until then did I step in and call you on your posts/defense of people remaining silent. Your whole tone had changed and I was fully prepared for and expecting you to turn on me. Turns out you feel the silence is good for specials to hide in, while I feel it gives bad guys (in general Chaos, I know they are called vampires in this game ) a place to hide.

yes and since you were on Bahktosh's side I bullied you.

You are seeking 1/4 MAYBE 2/4.
I am seeking 3/4 MAYBE 2/4.

I feel my approach may be more fruitful.