Re: Harvey Weinstein... RIP career.
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:59 pm
That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons bring us some web forums whereupon we can gather
http://garbi.online/forum/
+1.msteelers wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:56 amThis is my take as well. They said it was one accuser but with sufficient evidence that it was a pattern of behavior. It's my understanding that the Today Show is one of the most profitable shows on TV, and Lauer was the main host on it. TV execs wouldn't move that quickly if it wasn't serious.McNutt wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:51 am It must have been a pretty serious allegation with a lot to substantiate it for them to move so swiftly on Lauer. We'll get details soon I'm sure.
I'm certainly not putting the idea into your head of turning your office into a hostile workplace. For illustrative purposes, you understand.Paingod wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:28 pm It hurts my head that any woman would be offended by all of this "annoying rabble-rousing"...
In a country where so many women voted for an admitted pussy grabber to lead our country? I would have been astounded, Pre-Trump as well.Paingod wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:28 pmIt hurts my head that any woman would be offended by all of this "annoying rabble-rousing"...
For me personally this one is at Hanks level of oh no this really sucks and I want to crawl under a rock and hide now. Very scant details and I'm confused if he was fired before for this why they are only now ending the syndication of old PHC and the Writer's Almanac. Why didn't they end it then? Ugh...Carpet_pissr wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:37 pm Ok, I am getting more fearful about Tom Hanks by the day.
Garrison Freaking Keillor?!
Keillor told The Associated Press of his firing in an email. In a follow-up statement, he says he was fired over "a story that I think is more interesting and more complicated than the version MPR heard." He later told the Star Tribune that he was fired because he put his hand on a woman's bare back as he tried to console her. Keillor said in an email that he was trying to pat the woman's back after she had told him "about her unhappiness." Keillor wrote that the woman's shirt was open and his hand went up about 6 inches.
Keillor says he apologized when the woman recoiled, and also emailed the woman an apology. He says she replied she'd forgiven him and "not to think about it." The radio mainstay says he considered her a friend and they remained friendly "right up until her lawyer called."
They probably had a bunch of information that they were sitting on prior to Monday's allegation. I'm not trying to smear Lauer, just understand why a network would be so quick to act against one of their biggest stars. It just can't be based on one allegation.GreenGoo wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:29 pm There is zero chance they cut him loose 2 days after they were made aware of his behaviour if all they had were allegations.
Carpet_pissr wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:37 pm Ok, I am getting more fearful about Tom Hanks by the day.
Garrison Freaking Keillor?!
Or attentions seeking or money seeking or expression of mental illness.hepcat wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:49 pm But this could easily become a tool for revenge in this environment and in the wrong hands.
Agreed. Plus they've actually said they have reason to believe that despite this being the first official complaint against Lauer, it has been a pattern of behaviour.McNutt wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:47 pmThey probably had a bunch of information that they were sitting on prior to Monday's allegation. I'm not trying to smear Lauer, just understand why a network would be so quick to act against one of their biggest stars. It just can't be based on one allegation.GreenGoo wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:29 pm There is zero chance they cut him loose 2 days after they were made aware of his behaviour if all they had were allegations.
I think the innocent until proven guilty basis of your justice system is one of the best things about it, and I feel that way whether it's kids shoplifting or apparent monsters with sex slaves locked up in their basement for a decade.LordMortis wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:51 pmOr attentions seeking or money seeking or expression of mental illness.hepcat wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:49 pm But this could easily become a tool for revenge in this environment and in the wrong hands.
I'm glad for the purge but I fear the torch wielders just the same.
Agreed with all of the above. As glad as I am to see claims of sexual harassment being taken seriously and the perpetrators being punished, I am wary that the pendulum is swinging back a little too far. In the whole #metoo environment, it seems like even questioning an allegation of sexual harassment is seen by some as being anti-woman or blaming the victim.GreenGoo wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:02 pmI think the innocent until proven guilty basis of your justice system is one of the best things about it, and I feel that way whether it's kids shoplifting or apparent monsters with sex slaves locked up in their basement for a decade.LordMortis wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:51 pmOr attentions seeking or money seeking or expression of mental illness.hepcat wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:49 pm But this could easily become a tool for revenge in this environment and in the wrong hands.
I'm glad for the purge but I fear the torch wielders just the same.
With that said, private entities are free to do what they want within the boundaries of the law, although I personally still like them to behave extremely cautiously in this area. Just as I like private entities to follow the general concept and spirit of freedom of speech when at all possible, despite having no legal obligation to do so.
No one is firing Matt Lauer without damning evidence, is my opinion.
+1. I’m noticing that tendency even on typically more journalistic outlets (as opposed to say, sensationalist CNN)Kurth wrote:There's very little distinction paid to what it is they are actually accused of doing, and that's a very real problem. I mean, from what we can tell, there's a chasm of distance between the improper conduct of Garrison Keillor or Al Franken or Glen Thrush and that of predators/rapists like Weinstein. Yet, based on the media coverage, it seems like they're all one in the same. That's bullshit.
Exactly. Which is why zero tolerance is just stupid. It's a phrase that people/organizations use to make it seem like they're addressing a problem when often they're really just taking a knee-jerk reaction with little thought.Paingod wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:23 am Zero tolerance always leads to insanity.
A rolled joint found under your driver's seat and a semi full of pot are not the same. An unwanted kiss and pushing yourself on people whose careers you control for decades are not the same.
The "Transparent" star made a statement through his publicist on Sunday in which he also said allegations of harassment are "simply and utterly untrue."
Tambor, 73, reportedly has been accused by at least two people. He is also being investigated by Amazon, according to the website Deadline.
"Playing Maura Pfefferman on 'Transparent' has been one of the greatest privileges and creative experiences of my life," Tambor said in the statement Sunday. "What has become clear over the past weeks, however, is that this is no longer the job I signed up for four years ago."
"I've already made clear my deep regret if any action of mine was ever misinterpreted by anyone as being aggressive, but the idea that I would deliberately harass anyone is simply and utterly untrue. Given the politicized atmosphere that seems to have afflicted our set, I don't see how I can return to 'Transparent,'" he said.
I didn't see him in this thread yet. Maybe we can talk tjg_marantz into editing the OP with an ongoing list of people being accused.ImLawBoy wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:01 pm I wondered why Tambor was saying this again, but then I saw the article was dated November 20.
+1McNutt wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:14 pm I'm against lists of accused because it removes the necessary details. Does Andy Rubin, who had a consensual relationship with a subordinate deserve to be on the same list as Cosby and Weinstein?
Carpet_pissr wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:52 am Ad-Rock's Dad:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/30/thea ... nduct.html
His son, Adam Horovitz, said in his own statement: “I believe the allegations against my father are true, and I stand behind the women that made them.”
Every time I get bothered by the feeling that the pendulum is swinging too far toward the nutty zero-tolerance approach, I read something like this and it makes it crystal clear why that's happening now:Carpet_pissr wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:52 am Ad-Rock's Dad:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/30/thea ... nduct.html
Mr. Horovitz’s behavior around women had long been the subject of whispers. But since at least 1993, Gloucester Stage officials had known it was more than mere speculation: that year, Mr. Horovitz was the subject of an exposé in The Boston Phoenix in which 10 women accused him of sexual harassment and assault. The women’s names were not disclosed in the article. At the time the board’s president, Barry Weiner, dismissed the accusations and described some of the women speaking out against Mr. Horovitz as “tightly wound.”
"The Pervalanche of 2017"tjg_marantz wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:15 pm I'll accept suggestions but I'm kinda liking having that pig in the title.
Whoever edited that video needs to be fired. The background music is so bass heavy you can barely hear the audio of the video.
FiredIsgrimnur wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:17 pm Danny Masterson
Last week, The Daily Beast published a statement from Chrissie Carnell Bixler, one of at least four women who is accusing the actor Danny Masterson of rape.
Danny Masterson has been written out of the Netflix series “The Ranch” following multiple rape allegations against the actor.
"As a result of ongoing discussions, Netflix and the producers have written Danny Masterson out of 'The Ranch.' [Monday] was his last day on the show, and production will resume in early 2018 without him," a statement from Netflix read.
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Masterson told the Huffington Post, “I am obviously very disappointed in Netflix’s decision to write my character off of ‘The Ranch.’ From day one, I have denied the outrageous allegations against me. I have never been charged with a crime, let alone convicted of one."
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Three of the four women accusing Masterson are members of the Church of Scientology, according to multiple media reports. The Church of Scientology reportedly tried to cover up the allegations against Masterson.
LawsuitZ-Corn wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:51 pmFrom Terry's interview yesterday on Good Morning America it sounded like drugs may have indeed been involved. Terry said the executive was doing weird things with his tongue, flicking it in and out, as he walked across the room toward Terry. Terry said at first he thought it was a joke because the guy was acting so weird.Carpet_pissr wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:44 amAnd/or any number of drugs.Moliere wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:11 amBecause the culture of Hollywood made these guys feel invulnerable.Z-Corn wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:21 am I really don't understand why someone would be dumb enough to grope Terry Crews in front of his wife and a room full of people. Pretty sure he could tear a man's head off with his bare hands if he wanted...
Terry Crews has filed a sexual assault lawsuit against WME agent Adam Venit in regards to Crews’ claim that Venit groped him at a Hollywood party in February 2016.
News of the lawsuit comes a little more than a week after Venit returned to work at WME following a brief suspension as the agency conducted an internal investigation of Crews’ allegations. Crews was previously represented by WME, which is also a defendant in the suit, but fired the agency last month after going public with his claims.
The lawsuit, first reported by TMZ and obtained by Variety, repeats Crews’ claim that Venit groped his genitals, “squeezing so hard that he leapt back in pain,” and also says Venit stuck “his tongue in and out of his mouth provocatively.” The lawsuit alleges that Crews alerted Adam Sandler, who was at the party and is represented by Venit, by yelling, “Adam, come get your boy! He’s grabbing my nuts.”
The suit also says that Sandler called Crews while he was on his way home from the party to check up on him. It adds that Crews told his agent at WME of the alleged incident, and met with WME chairman Ari Emanuel. Crews expressed fear of retaliation from Venit for reporting the incident, but Emanuel reportedly apologized for him and assured Crews that Venit “did not have that level of power despite his title as head of the Motion Picture Department.”
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The lawsuit argues that WME should have known that Venit was “unskilled, unfit, and unable to appropriately carry out the legal and other duties of a talent agent, and knew that he was reasonably likely to engage in the conduct herein” before he was hired.
Crews had previously filed a report with the Los Angeles Police Department in regards to the alleged assault. He first went public with his story on Oct. 10, shortly after the New York Times and New Yorker ran bombshell sexual harassment exposés about Harvey Weinstein.
On Monday, John Oliver got into a heated public debate with Dustin Hoffman about allegations of sexual harassment against the actor while he was moderating a panel at a screening of one of Hoffman's films, the Washington Post reports.
Time magazine is featuring "silence breakers," a group the magazine identified with some familiar faces behind the #MeToo movement and at least one that is obscured, as 2017's Person of the Year.
The focus is on those who triggered a #MeToo national outcry over sexual harassment.
"This is the fastest-moving social change we've seen in decades, and it began with individual acts of courage by hundreds of women, and some men, who came forward to tell their own stories of sexual harassment and assault," Time editor-in-chief Edward Felsenthal said Wednesday on TODAY when making the reveal. "The image you see partially on the cover is of a woman we talked to, a hospital worker in the middle of the country who shared her story with us and some others but doesn't feel like she can come forward without threatening her livelihood."