Octopus Overlords

/i think plain or average/regular would have worked better than ugly,

hepcat wrote:I understand what he's trying to say, but snark rarely translates well to the written word.

That's why you have to use the snark shark meme.

First, show me a white man in a position of power and I'll show you a man that is misogynist as fuck.

Second, at least this guy had the sensibility to not be in office or running for office when he says something dumb like that. As far as I can tell, he's not a working public servant at the moment.

GreenGoo wrote:First, show me a white man in a position of power and I'll show you a man that is misogynist as fuck.

Only whitey?

Moliere wrote:

GreenGoo wrote:First, show me a white man in a position of power and I'll show you a man that is misogynist as fuck.

Only whitey?

He didn't want anyone to conclude he was racist.....

Just surprised me that he is so hard on Bill Clinton and the Canadian PM.

Ed Rendell was a good Philadelphia mayor and a good Pennsylvania governor, but his mouth has a history of running off the road.

The difference is that someone like Rendell will own it, apologize, and walk it back. Someone like Trump will double-down on the insult, blame women for being oversensitive, attack "political correctness" for oppressing him, and then claim he never said it even when confronted with the tape.

Holman wrote:Ed Rendell was a good Philadelphia mayor and a good Pennsylvania governor, but his mouth has a history of running off the road.

The difference is that someone like Rendell will own it, apologize, and walk it back. Someone like Trump will double-down on the insult, blame women for being oversensitive, attack "political correctness" for oppressing him, and then claim he never said it even when confronted with the tape.

And in 2016, one of those approachs will actually work...

I'm convinced Hitler would've been given a pass if he were alive today and simply told everyone his only crime was not being politically correct.

hepcat wrote:I'm convinced Hitler would've been given a pass if he were alive today and simply told everyone his only crime was not being politically correct.

There it is, everyone who's not voting for Hillary is a Nazi. Keep it up, you'll win friends and influence elections that way.

What u talking about Willis?

em2nought wrote:There it is, everyone who's not voting for Hillary is a Nazi.

Yep, that's exactly what he said.

em2nought wrote:

hepcat wrote:I'm convinced Hitler would've been given a pass if he were alive today and simply told everyone his only crime was not being politically correct.

There it is, everyone who's not voting for Hillary is a Nazi. Keep it up, you'll win friends and influence elections that way.

Don't ever change, L'il Rip.

They grow up so fast.

I'm actually starting to see TRUMP 2016 signs on lawns around town now. I'm not surprised there are Trump supporters; I'm surprised there are Trump supporters that are willing to declare it publicly.

Smoove_B wrote: I'm surprised there are Trump supporters that are willing to declare it publicly.

I'm not even surprised there are Trump supporters that are willing to declare it publicly. And I more ascared than surprised that now that they've found their numbers they're itching for the chance to scream it from the rooftops. It feels like a threat. "I'm a Trump supporter and you know who you are. You're turn's acomin."

Smoove_B wrote:I'm surprised there are Trump supporters that are willing to declare it publicly.

Yes it is surprising, because the possibility of having your property damaged, burned, looted, vandalized, fired into, etc, greatly goes up if you put out a "Trump" sign. Makes you wonder which side is truly made up of the lowest form of the species?

Meh, I don't do signs. Ugly rubbish that is a waste of money.

Avatars are a much better tool, eh?

In other news

I find it interesting that Trump is going after Bill Clinton and his supposed treatment of women, considering the fact that one of his ex-wives swore under oath that he raped her.

Smoove_B wrote:I'm actually starting to see TRUMP 2016 signs on lawns around town now. I'm not surprised there are Trump supporters; I'm surprised there are Trump supporters that are willing to declare it publicly.

There are two or three around my town. This has provided me with a useful service, as it tells me to re-evaluate my opinion of these people.

RunningMn9 wrote:

Smoove_B wrote:I'm actually starting to see TRUMP 2016 signs on lawns around town now. I'm not surprised there are Trump supporters; I'm surprised there are Trump supporters that are willing to declare it publicly.

There are two or three around my town. This has provided me with a useful service, as it tells me to re-evaluate my opinion of these people.

I counted 300 houses along the route of my 3-mile daily walk. Two of them have Trump signs and none have Clinton signs. I can only deduce a Trump landslide with almost 1% of the vote compared to 0 for Hillary.

Personally, I'd be ashamed to show support for either one of them.

And yet many of us are forced to do just that. I'm not a fan of the Clinton family. But better the devil you know than the devil that barely understands how to be a human being, let alone lead them.

hepcat wrote:And yet many of us are forced to do just that. I'm not a fan of the Clinton family. But better the devil you know than the devil that barely understands how to be a human being, let alone lead them.

Stop depressing me.

Sorry...here's a picture of a monkey in smart shoes to cheer you up.

hepcat wrote:I'm convinced Hitler would've been given a pass if he were alive today and simply told everyone his only crime was not being politically correct.

On the plus side, I believe we can invoke Godwin's law so this thread can safely be closed now.

Heads up. We could've closed it ages ago, my man.

I mean, references to Nazism and Hitler are marginally more probable when the subject is actually similar to Nazism and Hitler.

El Guapo wrote:I mean, references to Nazism and Hitler are marginally more probable when the subject is actually similar to Nazism and Hitler.

That's something I never liked about Godwin's law. I can't even listen to The Wall without someone wanting to turn it off any more. Heaven forbid if you want to criticize someone for wearing swatika or suggest cleansing by government enforced racial purification should be a thing.

Right now the ghost of Hitler is trying to hire a defamation attorney.

That monkey's pretty cute though. Is he/she going to be running for president?

His hair is reminiscent of Trump, isn't it?

hepcat wrote:His hair is reminiscent of Trump, isn't it?

apropos of nothing, but i can't help notice it is dressed very much like the housewives of Microsoft employees here

hepcat wrote:I'm not a fan of the Clinton family.

Something specific? I see a lot of Hillary dislike and/or hate in some cases in this thread, from non-Republicans. Just wondering where that is coming from.

I get that she's no Elizabeth Warren, and will seemingly bend to whatever she thinks voters want to hear (so basically like 99.9% of politicians), but is there something other than that? Please don't say "Benghazi"!

Whatever Clinton's faults, they are exacerbated by Clinton fatigue (we've known her since 1991) and by dedicated right-wing attacks warping the narrative all that time.

I'm happy to support her. I don't think she's perfect, but she's rock solid where she needs to be, and she has levels of knowledge and experience way above those of most candidates who make it this far. The comparison with Trump is nearly impossible because you can't find a common scale.

Sanders' strength was supposedly his integrity, but that flag is tattered as he appears willing to destroy the party if it won't give him the nomination unearned. Between his impossible promises, his limited range, and his new scorched-Earth strategy, I find Clinton to be the far more appealing candidate.

GreenGoo wrote:First, show me a white man in a position of power and I'll show you a man that is misogynist as fuck.

What are you talking about?

Carpet_pissr wrote:

hepcat wrote:I'm not a fan of the Clinton family.

Something specific? I see a lot of Hillary dislike and/or hate in some cases in this thread, from non-Republicans. Just wondering where that is coming from.

I've spoken about it in the past, so this is hardly something I just came out of the blue with.

My issues are not with Benghazi, email-gate, or any other GOP talking point that I feel have become toothless attacks. My issues are based on my perception of the Clintons as purveyors of the cronyism that I find so distasteful in politics (and while I acknowledge it has been a part of government from the moment Ogg fashioned a gavel out of a caribou bone and a rock, I feel the Clintons take it further than most), the numerous sketchy stories of the Clinton Foundation and its operations, and, most importantly, my intense dislike of political dynasties.

And yet I will vote for Hillary because no matter how much I dislike the Clintons, I absolutely loathe the concept of the Beige Bonehead sitting in the White House even more.

hepcat wrote:And yet many of us are forced to do just that. I'm not a fan of the Clinton family. But better the devil you know than the devil that barely understands how to be a human being, let alone lead them.

This is why I like living in an uncontested state. It doesn't matter how (or even if) I vote; even in this fluid election, MA is a lock for the Democrat.

NickAragua wrote:

hepcat wrote:I'm convinced Hitler would've been given a pass if he were alive today and simply told everyone his only crime was not being politically correct.

On the plus side, I believe we can invoke Godwin's law so this thread can safely be closed now.

Point of order: Godwin's Law states that the probability of a comparison to Hitler/Nazism approaches certainty as an online discussion progresses, not that the discussion is over when it inevitably occurs.

While I have some issues with Clinton, and I don't think she'll be as good a president as her husband (part of that due to the opposition), I like her at least as much, if not more, as I did Obama and Kerry when they ran, so I have no problem supporting her. And when compared to all her opponents, she only looks even better. And, indeed, I did a little bit of phone banking for her.

I do have an issue with putting up a lawn sign, though, as I have no lawn, so that would just look silly.

(OK, OK, so I don't have problems looking silly. I just can't be bothered.)

Stick a fork in it, the #NeverTrump movement is officially done.

Mitt Romney ends recruiting efforts for an independent candidate:

CNN wrote:Washington (CNN) — Mitt Romney won't launch a third-party presidential campaign of his own and has stopped trying to recruit somebody else to do it.

The 2012 Republican nominee had attempted to recruit a challenger to Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton. But prospects like Nebraska Sen. Ben Sasse said no, and Romney is now dropping his efforts, a source familiar with Romney's thinking told CNN. The news was first reported by Yahoo News.

It's the latest blow to the "Never Trump" movement -- a group of conservatives led by Romney, blogger Erick Erickson and The Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol -- to find an alternative to Trump.

Romney still hopes a candidate will emerge. But an adviser to the "Never Trump" efforts confirmed Tuesday night that the efforts are looking grim.

Anonymous Bosch wrote:Stick a fork in it, the #NeverTrump movement is officially done.

Err, the #NeverTrump movement wasn't just about putting up a third party conservative candidate. It was about not voting for Trump and stopping him from getting the presidency. Of which many will probably still not vote for him - either by not voting, voting for another third party candidate, or even voting for Clinton.