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Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 1:38 am
by em2nought
Defiant wrote:Anonymous Bosch wrote:Stick a fork in it, the #NeverTrump movement is officially done.
Err, the #NeverTrump movement wasn't just about putting up a third party conservative candidate.
It was about forming the shape of an "L" with your thumb and index finger, placing it on your forehead, and then walking around in de Nile until you're up to the shirt tail of your Kirkland brand dress shirt from Costco(gotta relate to everyday Americans), meanwhile a crooked crocodile with Bill in tow gobbles up your country.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 1:45 am
by Anonymous Bosch
Defiant wrote:Anonymous Bosch wrote:Stick a fork in it, the #NeverTrump movement is officially done.
Err, the #NeverTrump movement wasn't just about putting up a third party conservative candidate.
In case it wasn't obvious, I was referring to the 'official' movement led by Mitt Romney and Bill Kristol, to try and recruit a third-party candidate. I wasn't trying to suggest all Trump-related butt-hurtitude had spontaneously disappeared.
FWIW though, here's another piece from CBS News:
Commentary: Why #NeverTrump failed
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 7:44 am
by Smoove_B
Dungeons and Donalds the Twitter feed. I don't know who did this, but they deserve a beer.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 8:32 am
by hepcat
em2nought wrote:Defiant wrote:Anonymous Bosch wrote:Stick a fork in it, the #NeverTrump movement is officially done.
Err, the #NeverTrump movement wasn't just about putting up a third party conservative candidate.
It was about forming the shape of an "L" with your thumb and index finger, placing it on your forehead, and then walking around in de Nile until you're up to the shirt tail of your Kirkland brand dress shirt from Costco(gotta relate to everyday Americans), meanwhile a crooked crocodile with Bill in tow gobbles up your country.
"L" for laudable.
The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 6:35 pm
by Zarathud
Trump campaign was forced to admit he didn't actually raise $6 million for veterans -- only $2.9 million was distributed, mostly from Trump's foundation or the foundations of Trump supporters Carl Icahn and Stewart J. Rahr. Trump's campaign manager doesn't even "know the exact number" but will find out later.
Never mind that the whole stunt was most likely a violation of the restrictions on the use of private foundation assets for personal benefit or political activities.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 9:32 pm
by GreenGoo
I'd be interested to hear how much of that was distributed after he made that statement, if any.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 9:43 pm
by gilraen
em2nought wrote:
It was about forming the shape of an "L" with your thumb and index finger, placing it on your forehead, and then walking around in de Nile until you're up to the shirt tail of your Kirkland brand dress shirt from Costco(gotta relate to everyday Americans), meanwhile a crooked crocodile with Bill in tow gobbles up your country.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 11:03 am
by tgb
Courtesy of
The Federalist
He’s bored with hotels and casinos,
Sated with golfing and pinots,
His tag-line, “You’re fired!”
So passé, so tired,
Why not run to appoint the next Nino?
So he gathered his legions of fans,
Who basked in his livid sun-tan,
“No low-energy Jeb (!),
He stands for the plebs!
Hey, have you seen the size of his hands?”
A style reminiscent of Jackson’s—
All the rage amongst Angles and Saxons
(Not with “Mexican rapists,”
Or women, or papists)—
True conservatives sounded their klaxons.
A xenophobe’s platform of spite:
“Build a wall, make them pay, future bright!
David Duke, KKK,
Sure beats me, who are they?”
Could this brute be the Geist of our Zeit?
Let’s concede what a beauty his wife is,
But lest that bare fact should entice us,
His disdain for the fair sex
(And his pair of fair ex-es)
Gives him something in common with ISIS.
Not Ted Cruz with his “lies and deceit,”
Nor Lil’ Marco’s “diminutive feet,”
Nor Carly (“her face!”),
Nor Ben Carson (“his race!”),
With The Donald could scarcely compete.
To millions he may be a hero,
To others a policy tyro,
But pals like Chris Christie
Endorse and insist he’s
The best fiddlin’ ruler since Nero.
Next to Cleveland to blow up the Party
Of Lincoln and Taft and…McCarthy,
Enraged delegates,
Just like in ’68!
The first ballot: a new Buonaparte?
While this boor merits only a pillory,
Who’s left to us then…just Hillary?
If we cannot endure her,
Must we vote for der Führer?
Why must suffrage result in such misery?
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 10:35 am
by tgb
I find this shocking. Shocking, I tells you.
Joseph Cinque, the academy’s president and CEO, personally presented the award to Trump in Scotland. It was one of many similar honors Cinque has bestowed upon him in the past decade. Cinque, who has been described by the academy as one of Trump’s “dear friends,” is also a convicted felon who reportedly survived a murder attempt, was associated with the infamous mob boss John Gotti and went on to earn the nicknames “Joey No Socks” and “the Preppy Don.”
Now we know Trump's plan for dealing with ISIS:
"Nice mosque. It would be a shame if something happened to it."
“Joseph Cinque, President of The AAHS, has been attending Mr. Trump’s party for the past 16 years,” the article said. “It is somewhat of a new Years Eve tradition for him and of course, he has become dear friends with the Trump family.”....
...Trump indicated he didn’t know much about the academy’s board of trustees — on which he, two of his sons and multiple members of his organizations have served. He also claimed he doesn’t know Cinque well.
“He may have set up a board of trustees. I don’t know. I don’t know that my sons are involved with that, actually,” Trump said, adding, “But he’s a very nice man. I don’t know him well. I don’t know him well, but I have found him over the years to be a very nice man.”
Oh, Donald. Don't ever change.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 10:44 am
by hepcat
Good grief, the bar for mob nicknames just gets lower and lower, doesn't it?
"Hey, Front Tooth Frank, what'ya wanna call Joseph?"
"I don't know...wait...didn't we see him once at the gym in his bare feet, Standing Sammy?"
"Hey, yeah! Perfect...Shoeless Joe!"
"Nah, I think that's taken. Let's go with Joey No Socks!"
"Perfect...now, if you'll excuse me, I have to get Danny Two Kids for his third kid's christening. Oh, and before I forget, you're going to need to order new business cards for him."
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 12:59 pm
by Enough
Donald loves him some climate change:
Donald Trump says he is “not a big believer in global warming.” He has called it “a total hoax,” “bullshit” and “pseudoscience.”
But he is also trying to build a sea wall designed to protect one of his golf courses from “global warming and its effects.”
The New York billionaire is applying for permission to erect a coastal protection works to prevent erosion at his seaside golf resort, Trump International Golf Links & Hotel Ireland, in County Clare.
A permit application for the wall, filed by Trump International Golf Links Ireland and reviewed by POLITICO, explicitly cites global warming and its consequences — increased erosion due to rising sea levels and extreme weather this century — as a chief justification for building the structure.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 2:39 pm
by tgb
On something like that would he file it personally? I would think it was filed by management without his knowledge, especially since it's out of the country.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 2:47 pm
by Chrisoc13
Yeah seems like he wouldn't exactly have written that and filed it. Plenty of things to criticize trump on without stooping to silly things.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 3:25 pm
by Max Peck
Yeah, it seems likely that
the consultants who submitted the proposal (and threatened closure of the enterprise if it isn't accepted) would be responsible for the wording, including any reference to climate change.
Consultants acting for Donald Trump have warned that if the US billionaire doesn't secure planning permission for a 200,000-tonne 'wall' of rock armour to protect his Doonbeg golf resort, it risks potential closure.The stark warning is contained in new plans lodged by the Trump International Golf Links and Hotel with Clare County Council for the construction of a €10m, 2.8km-long wall of limestone rock armour on Doughmore Beach at the golf resort. The wall is being put in place to prevent the golf course from being washed away by future Atlantic storms. In the planning application, Trump resort consultants told the council that "in the medium term, the 'do nothing' scenario will bring the viability of the entire resort and its potential closure into question". They state that "this would result in a permanent and profound negative economic impact" upon Doonbeg and Clare. They add: "The failure to protect this asset would have a profound adverse and permanent effect on the local economy." The stakes are high for West Clare, as consultants for Trump's firm TIGL Ireland Enterprises Ltd are forecasting a €38m bonanza for the local economy in the years from 2017 to 2024 from the resort, pictured above.
Citing "climate change" is probably just an attempt to enlist a bit more public support, rather than a sincere acknowledgement that climate change is a thing that the boss cares about. OTOH, it seems reasonable that Trump would have signed off on the proposal, even if he didn't write it. Perhaps the real story should be his willingness to spend millions to protect his own property from erosion while burying his head in the sand when it comes to dealing with the oncoming disaster of erosion of American coastlines. Well, until the sand washes away from around his head, I guess.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 3:56 pm
by Archinerd
Trumps solution for everything seems to be, "Build a wall".
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 4:25 pm
by Carpet_pissr
hepcat wrote:Good grief, the bar for mob nicknames just gets lower and lower, doesn't it?
Possibly one of my favorite Simpson exchanges:
"Joey...Joe Joe Junior...Shabadoo!"
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 6:13 pm
by Rip
Archinerd wrote:Trumps solution for everything seems to be, "Build a wall".
Almost as insightful as blaming everything that is wrong on Climate Change.
Just politicians doing what politicians do.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 7:39 pm
by hepcat
Hi, I'm a point. I just thought I'd drop in and let you know Rip hates me. Have a nice time, y'all!
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 9:54 am
by raydude
Rip wrote:Archinerd wrote:Trumps solution for everything seems to be, "Build a wall".
Almost as insightful as blaming everything that is wrong on Climate Change.
Just politicians doing what politicians do.
For the one case you get people who are concerned but mainly for their children's children and future generations. For the other case you get people who have skin color like mine and a hispanic last name wondering whether we'll be targeted for no reason other than skin color and a hispanic last name.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 11:22 am
by Fretmute
Carpet_pissr wrote:hepcat wrote:Good grief, the bar for mob nicknames just gets lower and lower, doesn't it?
Possibly one of my favorite Simpson exchanges:
"Joey...Joe Joe Junior...Shabadoo!"
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 10:55 pm
by TheMix
Rip wrote:Archinerd wrote:Trumps solution for everything seems to be, "Build a wall".
Almost as insightful as blaming everything that is wrong on Climate Change.
Just politicians doing what politicians do.
I thought the whole "deal" with Trump is that he isn't a "politician". So now he's just another one of "them"?
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 11:06 pm
by Max Peck
An Open Letter to the American People
Because, as writers, we are particularly aware of the many ways that language can be abused in the name of power;
Because we believe that any democracy worthy of the name rests on pluralism, welcomes principled disagreement, and achieves consensus through reasoned debate;
Because American history, despite periods of nativism and bigotry, has from the first been a grand experiment in bringing people of different backgrounds together, not pitting them against one another;
Because the history of dictatorship is the history of manipulation and division, demagoguery and lies;
Because the search for justice is predicated on a respect for the truth;
Because we believe that knowledge, experience, flexibility, and historical awareness are indispensable in a leader;
Because neither wealth nor celebrity qualifies anyone to speak for the United States, to lead its military, to maintain its alliances, or to represent its people;
Because the rise of a political candidate who deliberately appeals to the basest and most violent elements in society, who encourages aggression among his followers, shouts down opponents, intimidates dissenters, and denigrates women and minorities, demands, from each of us, an immediate and forceful response;
For all these reasons, we, the undersigned, as a matter of conscience, oppose, unequivocally, the candidacy of Donald J. Trump for the Presidency of the United States.
Signed/endorsed by a few hundred people who string words together for a living.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 8:46 am
by malchior
I had Squawk box on this morning and they had Trump's tax guy (Stephen Moore). He just came on and flatly says all taxes come down without a hint of a challenge from the hosts...at all. Not even a shadow of a question about deficits, feasibility, anything at all. I understand the audience for the show but it blows my mind that this somehow isn't seen as a blatant free airtime commercial for Trump.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 8:58 am
by hepcat
To put things right again, watch Trump's lawyer get the smack down on why Trump defended Bill Clinton in the 90's, but is now attacking him for the very same things he defended.
It's an uncomfortable few minutes as the host just goes after him like a pit bull.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 10:26 am
by tgb
hepcat wrote:To put things right again, watch Trump's lawyer get the smack down on why Trump defended Bill Clinton in the 90's, but is now attacking him for the very same things he defended.
It's an uncomfortable few minutes as the host just goes after him like a pit bull.
Link?
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 10:38 am
by GreenGoo
My wife's 16 year old cat was named Joe Boxer because he had white "gloves" on his front paws. I didn't like that so I started calling him joey joe joe shabadoo jr (got the jr in the wrong order) and it has stuck ever since.
I call him joey joe joe for short.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 10:44 am
by Rip
TheMix wrote:Rip wrote:Archinerd wrote:Trumps solution for everything seems to be, "Build a wall".
Almost as insightful as blaming everything that is wrong on Climate Change.
Just politicians doing what politicians do.
I thought the whole "deal" with Trump is that he isn't a "politician". So now he's just another one of "them"?
Well he has to show he is qualified to do the job, duh.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 11:06 am
by Zarathud
Duh is right, obviously.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 11:11 am
by hepcat
tgb wrote:hepcat wrote:To put things right again, watch Trump's lawyer get the smack down on why Trump defended Bill Clinton in the 90's, but is now attacking him for the very same things he defended.
It's an uncomfortable few minutes as the host just goes after him like a pit bull.
Link?
Whoops,
sorry about that!
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 11:13 am
by Defiant
tgb wrote:hepcat wrote:To put things right again, watch Trump's lawyer get the smack down on why Trump defended Bill Clinton in the 90's, but is now attacking him for the very same things he defended.
It's an uncomfortable few minutes as the host just goes after him like a pit bull.
Link?
I think he's talking about
this
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 10:50 am
by Rip
Donald Trump reached the number of delegates needed to clinch the Republican nomination for president Thursday, completing an unlikely rise that has upended the political landscape and set the stage for a bitter fall campaign.
Trump was put over the top in the Associated Press delegate count by a small number of the party's unbound delegates who told the AP they would support him at the national convention in July. Among them is Oklahoma GOP chairwoman Pam Pollard.
"I think he has touched a part of our electorate that doesn't like where our country is," Pollard said. "I have no problem supporting Mr. Trump."
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/ ... 6-10-19-46
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 10:53 am
by El Guapo
It's interesting that they are counting the unbound delegates in stating that he has 'clinched' the nomination. If you count unbound superdelegates, then
Clinton will very likely similarly 'clinch' the nomination by winning New Jersey, without even counting California. So I wonder whether the AP will similarly announce that for Clinton as well.
Though Trump has no opponents left to dispute the 'clinching', unlike Clinton.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 11:08 am
by YellowKing
"I think he has touched a part of our electorate that doesn't like where our country is," Pollard said
Voting for Trump is like saying you don't like that your car is about to drive into a wall, so you're going to drive it off a bridge instead.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 12:20 pm
by Alefroth
I feel like he's touched a part of me that I don't like where it is.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 1:14 pm
by GreenGoo
Alefroth wrote:I feel like he's touched a part of me that I don't like where it is.
I figure a few people would prefer that he just stop touching them altogether.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 1:18 pm
by Max Peck
El Guapo wrote:It's interesting that they are counting the unbound delegates in stating that he has 'clinched' the nomination. If you count unbound superdelegates, then
Clinton will very likely similarly 'clinch' the nomination by winning New Jersey, without even counting California. So I wonder whether the AP will similarly announce that for Clinton as well.
Though Trump has no opponents left to dispute the 'clinching', unlike Clinton.
Bear in mind that the AP article is counting unbound delegates that are saying they will support Trump, not all unbound delegates, and they spell out that by "clinch" they mean he now has a total of 1238 delegates (either bound or declaring support for him), which puts him one over the magic number to avoid a contested convention. Given that he will undoubtedly gain more delegates in the remaining primaries, it sounds legit to me.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 1:19 pm
by Defiant
Someone working for trump gets interviewed
Highlights include:
"There should have been more than five investigations, there should have been five hundred investigations"
On whether Trump is a conspiracy theorist for spouting conspiracy theories:
"No, he just likes people thinking and doing their own research and finding out the facts"
And then later, when the interviewer pushes on the conspiracy theories (Vince Foster, Obama not being born in the US, Vaccines, etc):
"I haven't done my research"
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 1:20 pm
by Max Peck
GreenGoo wrote:Alefroth wrote:I feel like he's touched a part of me that I don't like where it is.
I figure a few people would prefer that he just stop touching them altogether.
Are you hoping that he pulls a Cosby as his October Surprise?
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 1:21 pm
by Defiant
Max Peck wrote:El Guapo wrote:It's interesting that they are counting the unbound delegates in stating that he has 'clinched' the nomination. If you count unbound superdelegates, then
Clinton will very likely similarly 'clinch' the nomination by winning New Jersey, without even counting California. So I wonder whether the AP will similarly announce that for Clinton as well.
Though Trump has no opponents left to dispute the 'clinching', unlike Clinton.
Bear in mind that the AP article is counting unbound delegates that are saying they will support Trump, not all unbound delegates, and they spell out that by "clinch" they mean he now has a total of 1238 delegates (either bound or declaring support for him), which puts him one over the magic number to avoid a contested convention. Given that he will undoubtedly gain more delegates in the remaining primaries, it sounds legit to me.
Then, by the very same token, they should count the superdelegates that say that they will support Clinton, and say that she clinched the nomination after NJ.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 1:23 pm
by El Guapo
Max Peck wrote:El Guapo wrote:It's interesting that they are counting the unbound delegates in stating that he has 'clinched' the nomination. If you count unbound superdelegates, then
Clinton will very likely similarly 'clinch' the nomination by winning New Jersey, without even counting California. So I wonder whether the AP will similarly announce that for Clinton as well.
Though Trump has no opponents left to dispute the 'clinching', unlike Clinton.
Bear in mind that the AP article is counting unbound delegates that are saying they will support Trump, not all unbound delegates, and they spell out that by "clinch" they mean he now has a total of 1238 delegates (either bound or declaring support for him), which puts him one over the magic number to avoid a contested convention. Given that he will undoubtedly gain more delegates in the remaining primaries, it sounds legit to me.
No, I get that, and the 538 article I linked to is doing the same thing - it's counting superdelegates that have announced which candidate that they are supporting (which of course is overwhelmingly Clinton). But unbound delegates who say they support Trump or Clinton are of course free to switch their support at any time, I think right up until they actually cast their ballot at the convention. So can you deem a candidate to have 'clinched' the nomination when they are relying on unbound delegates who could change their minds (even if that's unlikely)?
Sanders has been arguing that there is going to be a 'contested' democratic convention because Hillary probably won't have the necessary amount of votes just from pledged (regular) delegates, so presumably he would dispute that. Though if the AP and other media outlets start saying that Clinton has 'clinched' the convention after the New Jersey / California primaries, that could make that talking point more difficult.