That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons bring us some web forums whereupon we can gather
http://garbi.online/forum/
Everything he says now is about undermining the rule of law.Trump wrote:What is taking so long with the Inspector General’s Report on Crooked Hillary and Slippery James Comey. Numerous delays. Hope Report is not being changed and made weaker! There are so many horrible things to tell, the public has the right to know. Transparency!
So I'm reading this as "the only reason the investigation hasn't been killed yet is because Sessions tricked me into appointing him, and if I'd known, I would've appointed someone else who would've shut the investigation down immediately." Which is a weird contrast with the new narrative of "the President can shut down any investigation at any time, for any reason."No Collusion Man wrote:The Russian Witch Hunt Hoax continues, all because Jeff Sessions didn’t tell me he was going to recuse himself...I would have quickly picked someone else. So much time and money wasted, so many lives ruined...and Sessions knew better than most that there was No Collusion!
Chaz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:28 amNo Collusion Man wrote:The Russian Witch Hunt Hoax continues, all because Jeff Sessions didn’t tell me he was going to recuse himself...I would have quickly picked someone else. So much time and money wasted, so many lives ruined...and Sessions knew better than most that there was No Collusion!
Doesn't matter. I don't like Sessions but he's held fast for protecting the rule of law while the rule of law still means something when all of his allies are cowards or willingly complicit. The book isn't closed on him and I'm so very thankful.
His recusal and standing by it may be the only decent thing he has ever done but I'm with LM on being very thankful for it.LordMortis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:15 amDoesn't matter. I don't like Sessions but he's held fast for protecting the rule of law while the rule of law still means something when all of his allies are cowards or willingly complicit. The book isn't closed on him and I'm so very thankful.
LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:34 am Please tell me that "Telegram" is an app name and not a real telegram. Wait, don't.
Agreed. Rosenstein too.LordMortis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:15 am I don't like Sessions but he's held fast for protecting the rule of law while the rule of law still means something when all of his allies are cowards or willingly complicit.
In summary:Along with his shouts of “witch hunt,” Trump also incessantly declares, “No collusion.” This simplistic piece of shorthand aims at a straw man. Trump seems to be setting a bar that favors him: Unless evidence emerges that he personally met with Russian hackers, told them which Democratic Party emails to steal, and then provided guidance on how to release the material, then nothing wrong occurred.
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With his “no collusion” chant, Trump is like an embezzler who yells, “There was no murder”—and asserts that is the only relevant benchmark. Think of what Trump did during the campaign in this fashion: A fellow is standing on a sidewalk in front of a bank. He is told the bank is being robbed. He can see armed men wearing masks in the bank. Yet when people pass by and ask what is happening in the bank, he says, “There is no robbery. Nothing to see. Move along.” Even if this person did not collude with the robbers, he is helping the gang perpetrate a crime. And in Trump’s case, the criminal act was committed for his gain.
In 2016, Vladimir Putin’s regime mounted information warfare against the United States, in part to help Trump become president. While this attack was underway, the Trump crew tried to collude covertly with Moscow, sought to set up a secret communications channel with Putin’s office, and repeatedly denied in public that this assault was happening, providing cover to the Russian operation. Trump and his lieutenants aligned themselves with and assisted a foreign adversary, as it was attacking the United States. The evidence is rock-solid: They committed a profound act of betrayal. That is the scandal.
Chris Farrell, Judicial Watch. “They were running an operation to undermine a candidate for President of the U.S. These are all violations of law. This is intelligence tradecraft to steer an election. There’s nothing more grave when it comes to abuse of our intelligence system...
...This is a level of criminality beyond the pale. This is such a grave abuse of power and authority, it’s like nothing else we’ve seen in our history. This makes the Nixon Watergate burglary look like keystone cop stuff
(A little hard to know where the quotation ends as of this posting.)....The greatest Witch Hunt in political history!
Judicial Watch (JW) is an American conservative activist group and self-styled watchdog group that files Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuits to investigate alleged misconduct by government officials.
Founded in 1994, JW has primarily targeted Democrats, in particular the Clinton administration, the Obama administration, and Hillary Clinton, although it has sued Republicans as well including the administration of George W. Bush. It has also filed lawsuits against government climate scientists; Judicial Watch has described climate science as "fraud science". The group has made numerous false and unsubstantiated claims, which have been picked up by right-wing news outlets. Most of its lawsuits have been dismissed.
Special counsel Robert Mueller has accused Donald Trump’s former campaign chief Paul Manafort of witness tampering. Manafort allegedly tried to hide his communications with potential witnesses using the encrypted messaging apps WhatsApp and Telegram, but prosecutors appear to have accessed the messages via his iCloud account.
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WhatsApp has a setting that automatically backs up messages to iCloud. If enabled, this would render the app’s famous end-to-end encryption useless in terms of hiding from law enforcement equipped with a search warrant. The US government routinely requests information from internet companies through warrants and subpoenas.
LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:34 am Please tell me that "Telegram" is an app name and not a real telegram. Wait, don't.
Oh, I know. Just that what he stated almost exactly applies to the Trump Campaign.Isgrimnur wrote: ↑Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:58 pm Don't let the name Judicial Watch fool you.
Judicial Watch (JW) is an American conservative activist group and self-styled watchdog group that files Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuits to investigate alleged misconduct by government officials.
Founded in 1994, JW has primarily targeted Democrats, in particular the Clinton administration, the Obama administration, and Hillary Clinton, although it has sued Republicans as well including the administration of George W. Bush. It has also filed lawsuits against government climate scientists; Judicial Watch has described climate science as "fraud science". The group has made numerous false and unsubstantiated claims, which have been picked up by right-wing news outlets. Most of its lawsuits have been dismissed.
Isgrimnur wrote: ↑Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:27 pm QZ
Special counsel Robert Mueller has accused Donald Trump’s former campaign chief Paul Manafort of witness tampering. Manafort allegedly tried to hide his communications with potential witnesses using the encrypted messaging apps WhatsApp and Telegram, but prosecutors appear to have accessed the messages via his iCloud account.
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WhatsApp has a setting that automatically backs up messages to iCloud. If enabled, this would render the app’s famous end-to-end encryption useless in terms of hiding from law enforcement equipped with a search warrant. The US government routinely requests information from internet companies through warrants and subpoenas.
So now we’re back to Evil Genius? I thought we had firmly settled on Bloviating Idiot!Captain Caveman wrote:Yeah, that kind of projection is a deliberate tactic used by Trump and his ilk to muddy the waters, make the truth harder for the casually-informed to decipher, and allow partisans to take sides.
More like Evil Third Grader. "I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I??"Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:11 amSo now we’re back to Evil Genius? I thought we had firmly settled on Bloviating Idiot!Captain Caveman wrote:Yeah, that kind of projection is a deliberate tactic used by Trump and his ilk to muddy the waters, make the truth harder for the casually-informed to decipher, and allow partisans to take sides.
It's always a mix of some type. And at the end of the day, if there's one thing Trump understands, it's branding and the power of repeated labels.Holman wrote: ↑Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:08 amMore like Evil Third Grader. "I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I??"Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:11 amSo now we’re back to Evil Genius? I thought we had firmly settled on Bloviating Idiot!Captain Caveman wrote:Yeah, that kind of projection is a deliberate tactic used by Trump and his ilk to muddy the waters, make the truth harder for the casually-informed to decipher, and allow partisans to take sides.
House Speaker Paul D. Ryan has joined those disputing President Trump’s assertion that federal law enforcement planted a spy inside his campaign, telling reporters Wednesday that he has seen “no evidence” to support such claims.
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“I think Chairman Gowdy’s initial assessment is accurate,” Ryan said, adding that “we have some more digging to do. We’re waiting for some more document requests. . . . We still have some unanswered questions.
“But I have seen no evidence to the contrary of the initial assessment that Chairman Gowdy has made,” Ryan continued. “But I want to make sure that we run every lead down and make sure we get final answers to these questions. I’ll leave it at that.”
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Following Ryan’s comments Wednesday, Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Richard Burr (R-N.C.) told CNN that he also endorses Gowdy’s take on the evidence.
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Ryan also shot a careful retort at Trump’s assertion this week that, as president, he is entitled to pardon himself should Mueller’s probe unearth evidence of crimes. At the same time, Trump said that he had done nothing wrong.
“I don’t know the technical answer to that question,” said Ryan, who is not a lawyer. “But I think obviously the answer is, he shouldn’t and no one is above the law.”
I am reserving judgement at this time. I can't live my life letting the GOP suck the energy out of me. There is a point where you let everyone back to the table. If there's not, then we got problems much bigger than I want to believe possible. I don't know where the point is. If you don't allow even the worst of the GOP a chance to change then where are we? The first question to me is how much had Ryan and profited and fed the beast before coming here? And the second is, is he sincere in his belief that no one is above the law?Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:28 am Just STFU Paul Ryan and go away already. You've done enough damage and it's too late to try and show people you might actually have a spine.
I mean, I agree, but it's still helpful that he said this. It's too late for him to make up for the damage he's done, but I'll take what I can get from him.Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:28 am Just STFU Paul Ryan and go away already. You've done enough damage and it's too late to try and show people you might actually have a spine.
To arrive at that number, TIME combed over statements from the Trump campaign, transition team and administration and key figures such as Donald Trump Jr. and Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani to isolate the major arguments. (We did not include Trump allies in Congress or the media.)