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Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:09 pm
by LordMortis
Zarathud wrote:So who is going to compile the list of Stuff Mortis hates? Jeff V may have just been unseated....
I doubt Jeff ever truly compared. I seem to be walling myself off from the green olive laden world bit by bit for a good reason.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:11 pm
by Carpet_pissr
LordMortis wrote:Olives could be a deal breaker. For reasons I can't explain I love black olive slices. I think I actually like the taste of lye or something. Aside from that, nope. Olives are the of flavor revulsion. They are the flavor of looking at someone getting a limb amputated. They are the flavor a slow Elvis Costello song. They are the flavor putting you hand on an electric stove turned up all the way. If putting a 9 volt battery on your tongue was a flavor, that would be the flavor of green/greek/etc olives.
Not the whole olive, if that's what you were thinking? Think diced, or maybe sliced. Small bits and pieces. HOWEVER, the "arabe" version (again, in Argentina), DOES have whole green olives, IIRC, but again, so delicious I would eat them anyway, in spite of that nasty little culinary surprise every time I would bite into one. I think they even left the damn pits in. Blech.

Arabe empanada:
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Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:13 pm
by LordMortis
I don't see any olives. If I don't taste them, then it's all good.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:17 pm
by Carpet_pissr
And thus my "nasty surprise" phrase. You chomp down on that delicious looking and smelling pastry, only to bite right through a sometimes HUGE, juicy green olive. And if you're particularly unlucky, you'll bite the pit.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:53 pm
by Max Peck
GreenGoo wrote:
Grifman wrote:
GreenGoo wrote:Your traditions are stupid. I have traditions that are 100x better than your small, pathetic tradition. You should be embarrassed. This is America. We have the oldest and therefore best traditions in the world!
Says the Canadian! :)
I'm channeling someone. The challenge is to figure out who!
I'd have guessed Trump, but the grammar is too good and you didn't use some variation of the word "classy" at any point. ;)

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:24 pm
by Holman
So while Univision anchor Jorge Ramos was waiting in the lobby to be readmitted to Trump's presser, a Trump supporter came at him with "Get out of my country!"

Video here.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:31 pm
by Rip
Holman wrote:So while Univision anchor Jorge Ramos was waiting in the lobby to be readmitted to Trump's presser, a Trump supporter came at him with "Get out of my country!"

Video here.
Classy.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:14 pm
by hepcat
Trump may not realize it, and he probably doesn't really want it, but he's most likely the favorite candidate of every racist hate group around right now.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:59 pm
by tgb
Rip wrote:
Holman wrote:So while Univision anchor Jorge Ramos was waiting in the lobby to be readmitted to Trump's presser, a Trump supporter came at him with "Get out of my country!"

Video here.
Classy.
He's lucky he didn't get beaten with a metal pipe.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:02 pm
by Carpet_pissr
tgb wrote:
Rip wrote:
Holman wrote:So while Univision anchor Jorge Ramos was waiting in the lobby to be readmitted to Trump's presser, a Trump supporter came at him with "Get out of my country!"

Video here.
Classy.
He's lucky he didn't get beaten with a metal pipe.
Or raped! We all know how rapey those Mexicans are.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:06 pm
by Holman
hepcat wrote:Trump may not realize it, and he probably doesn't really want it, but he's most likely the favorite candidate of every racist hate group around right now.
Definitely. As far as they're concerned, Trump is morning in America.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:59 pm
by Kraken

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:13 am
by tgb
I like the cut of this guy's jib.

I don't know why this isn't appearing as a iink.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:01 am
by ImLawBoy
tgb wrote:I like the cut of this guy's jib.

I don't know why this isn't appearing as a iink.
You put a space after you closed your first url bracket.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:07 am
by LawBeefaroni
ImLawBoy wrote:
tgb wrote:I like the cut of this guy's jib.

I don't know why this isn't appearing as a iink.
You put a space after you closed your first url bracket.
And shouldn't it be "an iink"?

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:39 am
by tgb
LawBeefaroni wrote:
ImLawBoy wrote:
tgb wrote:I like the cut of this guy's jib.

I don't know why this isn't appearing as a iink.
You put a space after you closed your first url bracket.
And shouldn't it be "an iink"?
Har-dee-har-har. You're a regular Jan Murray.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:45 am
by Holman
LawBeefaroni wrote:
ImLawBoy wrote:
tgb wrote:I like the cut of this guy's jib.

I don't know why this isn't appearing as a iink.
You put a space after you closed your first url bracket.
And shouldn't it be "an iink"?
this is America, English !!

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:49 am
by GreenGoo
I think some of what he says is gibberish even if I agree with his overall sentiment. I was thinking yesterday how Trump is making a mockery of the entire election process. Now this might be good in the long run, as shaking up the status quo can have some positive effects, but in the short term, the world (ok, just some of the world) is looking at America and see that this clown is who they are looking to for leadership. And he really is a clown.

For a guy that wants to make America great again (did it stop being great when I wasn't looking?) his very presence is having the opposite effect, imo.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:14 am
by LawBeefaroni
GreenGoo wrote: For a guy that wants to make America great again (did it stop being great when I wasn't looking?) his very presence is having the opposite effect, imo.
Depends how you define "great." If you mean whiter and straighter, he's on the right path.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:37 am
by Max Peck
GreenGoo wrote:
I think some of what he says is gibberish even if I agree with his overall sentiment. I was thinking yesterday how Trump is making a mockery of the entire election process. Now this might be good in the long run, as shaking up the status quo can have some positive effects, but in the short term, the world (ok, just some of the world) is looking at America and see that this clown is who they are looking to for leadership. And he really is a clown.

For a guy that wants to make America great again (did it stop being great when I wasn't looking?) his very presence is having the opposite effect, imo.
Trump is no clown -- this is a clown:
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Trump is more of a vulgar demagogue.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:45 am
by GreenGoo
LawBeefaroni wrote:
GreenGoo wrote: For a guy that wants to make America great again (did it stop being great when I wasn't looking?) his very presence is having the opposite effect, imo.
Depends how you define "great." If you mean whiter and straighter, he's on the right path.
I'm not sure if the white and straight people are aware, but America is just about as white and straight as it gets.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:50 am
by Kraken
In another time and another place we would probably view Trump’s rise to prominence along a fascist trajectory similarly to the European movements of the early 20thth century and discuss his every move as a cautionary tale, but as of yet we have not. But we should pay attention when the Daily Stormer, a conservative, Neo-Nazi and white nationalist publication, endorses Trump for president, as it did Tuesday.
Y'know, I was going to say that only Trump's lack of brownshirts is preventing an anti-Hispanic kristallnacht...but I decided nah, don't godwinize. It's not that far-fetched an idea, although I think he's still more within the entertainment category than in threat territory.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:54 am
by GreenGoo
Kraken wrote: although I think he's still more within the entertainment category than in threat territory.
Me too. It's the public's reaction (obviously he and his followers don't represent all of America. Yet) that is the most upsetting about this whole thing. It's not like we haven't seen him pull this stunt before, but the fact that he has got the lead (so far) for one party in a 2 party system...

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:57 am
by Carpet_pissr
GreenGoo wrote:
Kraken wrote: although I think he's still more within the entertainment category than in threat territory.
Me too. It's the public's reaction (obviously he and his followers don't represent all of America. Yet) that is the most upsetting about this whole thing. It's not like we haven't seen him pull this stunt before, but the fact that he has got the lead (so far) for one party in a 2 party system...
A lead this far out is almost meaningless FWIW.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:00 pm
by noxiousdog
GreenGoo wrote:
LawBeefaroni wrote:
GreenGoo wrote: For a guy that wants to make America great again (did it stop being great when I wasn't looking?) his very presence is having the opposite effect, imo.
Depends how you define "great." If you mean whiter and straighter, he's on the right path.
I'm not sure if the white and straight people are aware, but America is just about as white and straight as it gets.
Does that mean you just defined "American" as straight and white?

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:00 pm
by GreenGoo
Carpet_pissr wrote:
GreenGoo wrote:
Kraken wrote: although I think he's still more within the entertainment category than in threat territory.
Me too. It's the public's reaction (obviously he and his followers don't represent all of America. Yet) that is the most upsetting about this whole thing. It's not like we haven't seen him pull this stunt before, but the fact that he has got the lead (so far) for one party in a 2 party system...
A lead this far out is almost meaningless FWIW.
Maybe as far as getting the nomination, but it still looks like crap.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:03 pm
by GreenGoo
noxiousdog wrote:
GreenGoo wrote:
LawBeefaroni wrote:
GreenGoo wrote: For a guy that wants to make America great again (did it stop being great when I wasn't looking?) his very presence is having the opposite effect, imo.
Depends how you define "great." If you mean whiter and straighter, he's on the right path.
I'm not sure if the white and straight people are aware, but America is just about as white and straight as it gets.
Does that mean you just defined "American" as straight and white?
No, what it means is that America is already primarily straight and white. While it might be possible to make it a little more whiter with enormous effort and expense, how would you propose to make it straighter?

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:03 pm
by El Guapo
Well, France had a borderline fascist make it to the final two presidential candidates not too long ago (early 2000s, IIRC), so it could be worse.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:09 pm
by noxiousdog
GreenGoo wrote:
No, what it means is that America is already primarily straight and white. While it might be possible to make it a little more whiter with enormous effort and expense, how would you propose to make it straighter?
On a whiteness scale we are destroyed by Canada, Europe, and Australia.

I would assume straightness is pretty universal throughout the world.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:12 pm
by LawBeefaroni
GreenGoo wrote:
LawBeefaroni wrote:
GreenGoo wrote: For a guy that wants to make America great again (did it stop being great when I wasn't looking?) his very presence is having the opposite effect, imo.
Depends how you define "great." If you mean whiter and straighter, he's on the right path.
I'm not sure if the white and straight people are aware, but America is just about as white and straight as it gets.
Not as much as it's been in the past. That's where the "again" part comes in.

And I take it you haven't been to Scandinavia. Or Ireland.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:35 pm
by naednek
Anonymous Bosch wrote:
Jaymann wrote:LOL, Cruz has an Hispanic name and they don't even like him.
...because any Hispanic in their right mind ought to like someone based solely upon their surname? That seems like a rather odd assumption.
That's like voting for a African American because you're African American*... ( I think both examples shouldn't be the main\any reason why you voted for a person)

*insert any skin color, religious viewpoint, or any other characteristic that describes a person*

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:37 pm
by Isgrimnur
Telling someone that their reasons for voting for a person aren't valid is like policing flag code violations. At the end of the day, not many people care, and there's even less you can do to affect actual change.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:38 pm
by El Guapo
Isgrimnur wrote:Telling someone that their reasons for voting for a person aren't valid is like policing flag code violations. At the end of the day, not many people care, and there's even less you can do to affect actual change.
Still getting hounded by the city over those flag code violations, eh?

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:39 pm
by Isgrimnur
Who knew that 'no flag' wasn't a viable option.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:43 pm
by Alefroth
Carpet_pissr wrote:
GreenGoo wrote:
Kraken wrote: although I think he's still more within the entertainment category than in threat territory.
Me too. It's the public's reaction (obviously he and his followers don't represent all of America. Yet) that is the most upsetting about this whole thing. It's not like we haven't seen him pull this stunt before, but the fact that he has got the lead (so far) for one party in a 2 party system...
A lead this far out is almost meaningless FWIW.
Meaningless as to whether he'll be president. Not meaningless for other things.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:50 pm
by GreenGoo
LawBeefaroni wrote:
GreenGoo wrote:
LawBeefaroni wrote:
GreenGoo wrote: For a guy that wants to make America great again (did it stop being great when I wasn't looking?) his very presence is having the opposite effect, imo.
Depends how you define "great." If you mean whiter and straighter, he's on the right path.
I'm not sure if the white and straight people are aware, but America is just about as white and straight as it gets.
Not as much as it's been in the past. That's where the "again" part comes in.

And I take it you haven't been to Scandinavia. Or Ireland.
The population of all the nordic countries combined is less than Canada, which is only 10% of the US. So are we talking countries or country clubs? There are more white people in New York than in those countries.

So yes, America is about as white and straight as it gets. If you want to talk percentages, then yeah, it's not pure white, but it might as well be. White outnumbers the next race by 4 to 1. As an ethnicity White outnumbers the next by even more. It's about 2/3rds white, or so. That's a lot of white people in one country.

Good luck making it more white. or less non-white, whichever.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:58 pm
by Jaymann
naednek wrote:
Anonymous Bosch wrote:
Jaymann wrote:LOL, Cruz has an Hispanic name and they don't even like him.
...because any Hispanic in their right mind ought to like someone based solely upon their surname? That seems like a rather odd assumption.
That's like voting for a African American because you're African American*... ( I think both examples shouldn't be the main\any reason why you voted for a person)

*insert any skin color, religious viewpoint, or any other characteristic that describes a person*
It is only one factor, but it is not trivial. You don't see many "white power" advocates showing up at a Bobby Jindal rally (though he probably wishes they would).

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:03 pm
by Rip
“Throw out the rulebook when it comes to Trump, that’s not even in the parameters of what we see as unusual,” Murray insisted.

Trump’s dominance of the race has flustered the Republican field, with many of the candidates trying their best to bring him back to earth.

But as the attacks on Trump have intensified, so has his level of support.

Polls released on Tuesday show Trump lapping the field in New Hampshire, where he leads his nearest Republican rival by 24 percentage points. The story is the same in South Carolina, where the latest poll gave him a 15-point edge.

While political scientists and other experts continue to insist Trump will not win the Republican nomination, he’s converted at least one high-profile skeptic.

GOP pollster Frank Luntz had dismissed Trump from the start, and declared after the first presidential debate that his campaign was doomed.

But after convening a focus group on Monday evening, in which Trump supporters showed an unflappable allegiance, Luntz changed his tune.

“This is real. I’m having trouble processing,” he said, according to Time.

“I want to put the Republican leadership behind this mirror and let them see. They need to wake up. They don’t realize how the grassroots have abandoned them,” he added.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/252 ... d-by-trump
Polling experts, including Marist College’s Lee Miringoff, say Trump is weathering political storms that would doom other candidates because his appeal is more about attitude than ideology.
:whistle:

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:30 pm
by LordMortis
Rip wrote:
Polling experts, including Marist College’s Lee Miringoff, say Trump is weathering political storms that would doom other candidates because his appeal is more about attitude than ideology.
:whistle:
Did it really take experts to figure that out? I so have the wrong job.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 2:20 pm
by RunningMn9
Rip wrote::whistle:
Why the whistle? The fact that this clown is in the race, let alone LEADING, is an embarrassment to this country.