Octopus Overlords

The good news for Trump is that it can only get better from here.

hepcat wrote:

They REALLY are twisting in the wind with Trump, aren't they?

It's like the entire party is on high alert. They know he's going to say something stupid or hateful again, but they're hedging their bets by tentatively supporting him...while still looking for a back door in case he starts advocating slavery, or telling us that he has a giant dick and that's why he's going to make ISIS go away.

Malificent wrote:

hepcat wrote:

They REALLY are twisting in the wind with Trump, aren't they?

It's like the entire party is on high alert. They know he's going to say something stupid or hateful again, but they're hedging their bets by tentatively supporting him...while still looking for a back door in case he starts advocating slavery, or telling us that he has a giant dick and that's why he's going to make ISIS go away.

He's got HUGE....tracts of land.

Defiant wrote:Hundreds allege Donald Trump doesn’t pay his bills

Defiant wrote:Hundreds allege Donald Trump doesn’t pay his bills

Malificent wrote:

hepcat wrote:

They REALLY are twisting in the wind with Trump, aren't they?

It's like the entire party is on high alert. They know he's going to say something stupid or hateful again, but they're hedging their bets by tentatively supporting him...while still looking for a back door in case he starts advocating slavery, or telling us that he has a giant dick and that's why he's going to make ISIS go away.

He's got HUGE....tracts of land.

Defiant wrote:4-in-10 GOP insiders want to derail Trump at the convention

RunningMn9 wrote:msd - did you ever address the fact that Clinton doesn't actually want to repeal the 2nd Amendment, as you claimed?

Hillary Clinton believes a 2008 Supreme Court ruling that is the linchpin of an individual's right to own a gun was "wrongly decided," her policy adviser told Bloomberg Politics on Friday.

"Clinton believes Heller was wrongly decided in that cities and states should have the power to craft common sense laws to keep their residents safe, like safe storage laws to prevent toddlers from accessing guns," Maya Harris, a policy adviser to Clinton, said in an e-mailed statement. "In overturning Washington D.C.'s safe storage law, Clinton worries that Heller may open the door to overturning thoughtful, common sense safety measures in the future."

The stance by Clinton, the all-but-certain Democratic presidential nominee, carries potentially profound implications for the future of gun rights in the U.S.

In striking down a longstanding handgun ban in the District of Columbia, the D.C. v. Heller ruling marked the first time the Supreme Court held that the Second Amendment protected an individual's right to own a firearm for lawful purposes such as self-defense in the home.

Isgrimnur wrote:Reversing DC vs. Heller would require federal legislation. And we know there will be no traction in the House until 2021 at the earliest, which means re-election for the president and a flip of the House.

Defiant wrote:Guess it's general election time: Trump: 'No one should be judged by their race or their color

Subhumans wrote:Here comes the hero
At temperature zero
Warming his hands on the crowd
He says "now that I've changed
I'm exactly the same"
But nobody hears 'cause the cheering's too loud
Hypocrisy on a massive scale
Hero/cult/revolutionary
It's all a show
But now we know
All they want is your money
Hero lost his conscience, yes
But now he's getting serious
"Forget the system, let's have fun"
Hero! Take the money and run!
The heroes are forgotten now
Floundered on their reputation
The old elite
Came off the street
And wound up as an institution
The next generation won't produce
The heroes and the fashion freaks
There's nothing new
In what we do
Just commitment and beliefs

Isgrimnur wrote:Reversing DC vs. Heller would require federal legislation. And we know there will be no traction in the House until 2021 at the earliest, which means re-election for the president and a flip of the House.

El Guapo wrote:

Isgrimnur wrote:Reversing DC vs. Heller would require federal legislation. And we know there will be no traction in the House until 2021 at the earliest, which means re-election for the president and a flip of the House.

Would it, though? I am pretty sure you could attack it through state level legislation, much like Roe.

Defiant wrote:Guess it's general election time: Trump: 'No one should be judged by their race or their color

tgb wrote:

Defiant wrote:Guess it's general election time: Trump: 'No one should be judged by their race or their color

I wonder who wrote it.

Defiant wrote:Guess it's general election time: Trump: 'No one should be judged by their race or their color

Unagi wrote:

Defiant wrote:Guess it's general election time: Trump: 'No one should be judged by their race or their color

I thought he said, 'No one should be a judge, if they're of a certain race or color.'

msduncan wrote:

It starts in 1973, when the United States Department of Justice went to court with a discrimination complaint against the Trump family business, which rented apartments across Brooklyn and Queens. Coming from the administration of Richard Nixon, who was hardly a civil rights agitator, the complaint was based on an investigation that found four different Trump employees confirming that applicants for leases were screened by race. One rental agent said Trump’s father had told him not to rent to blacks and that he actually wanted to reduce the number of African Americans in his buildings. Three doormen said they had been instructed to deflect blacks who came to Trump buildings to apply for apartments.

Though just 26 years old at the time, Donald Trump was already president of the Trump Organization. Rather than work with the government to bring the company into compliance with the law, as the New York apartment king Sam LeFrak had done, Trump retained one of the most notorious lawyers in the country, Roy Cohn, and commence an all-out legal war. Cohn, who had been Joe McCarthy’s chief inquisitor during the senator’s witch hunt for communists in the government, filed a $410 million lawsuit against the federal government and smeared the justice department attorneys with terms such as “storm troopers” and “Gestapo.” Trump complained in the press of “reverse discrimination” and alleged a “nationwide drive” to force landlords to “rent to welfare recipients.”.........

Next in the Trump record on race came a 1991 book by John O’Donnell, who had been president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City. O’Donnell quoted Trump saying,“ Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys wearing yarmulkes… Those are the only kind of people I want counting my money. Nobody else…Besides that, I tell you something else. I think that’s guy’s lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks.”

O’Donnell’s report was shocking, but Trump did not contest it at the time. In 1997 he was interviewed for Playboy by author Mark Bowden and he confirmed that the O’Donnell book was “probably true.”

tgb wrote:

msduncan wrote:

Bullshit.

It starts in 1973, when the United States Department of Justice went to court with a discrimination complaint against the Trump family business, which rented apartments across Brooklyn and Queens. Coming from the administration of Richard Nixon, who was hardly a civil rights agitator, the complaint was based on an investigation that found four different Trump employees confirming that applicants for leases were screened by race. One rental agent said Trump’s father had told him not to rent to blacks and that he actually wanted to reduce the number of African Americans in his buildings. Three doormen said they had been instructed to deflect blacks who came to Trump buildings to apply for apartments.

Though just 26 years old at the time, Donald Trump was already president of the Trump Organization. Rather than work with the government to bring the company into compliance with the law, as the New York apartment king Sam LeFrak had done, Trump retained one of the most notorious lawyers in the country, Roy Cohn, and commence an all-out legal war. Cohn, who had been Joe McCarthy’s chief inquisitor during the senator’s witch hunt for communists in the government, filed a $410 million lawsuit against the federal government and smeared the justice department attorneys with terms such as “storm troopers” and “Gestapo.” Trump complained in the press of “reverse discrimination” and alleged a “nationwide drive” to force landlords to “rent to welfare recipients.”

Wait. That's article can't be true. It was from that liberal pinko rag, Fortune Magazine.

msduncan wrote: Translation: law breaking is ok if my guy or gal does it.

hepcat wrote:MSD isn't even trying to post facts anymore. He's become that embarrassing Facebook friend who believes every right wing conspiracy he hears...no matter how easily disproved.

msduncan wrote:

msduncan wrote:

hepcat wrote:MSD isn't even trying to post facts anymore. He's become that embarrassing Facebook friend who believes every right wing conspiracy he hears...no matter how easily disproved.

Facts according to who? Mother Jones? The racist/bigot/sexist lynch mob that roams around the internet these days slinging those terms around to anyone they disagree with? The "safe place" crowd? George Soros?

msduncan wrote:

hepcat wrote:MSD isn't even trying to post facts anymore. He's become that embarrassing Facebook friend who believes every right wing conspiracy he hears...no matter how easily disproved.

Facts according to who? Mother Jones?

"...and he was never once accused of being racist by anyone until he decided to run against the Democrats."