Octopus Overlords

El Guapo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:58 pm Russian national residing in DC, with connections to Russia/NRA/GOP indicted for acting as a Russian agent without registering.

Hmmm

Pretty collusion-y.

Yeah, I think it's no accident that DOJ put this out today...

El Guapo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:14 pm

Also, while the pee tape is still unlikely, there's more evidence supporting its existence that you might think.

I don't think it's unlikely. In fact I'm pretty sure it exists. I just don't think it's enough. Not for this kind of lapdog behavior.

Evidence that his (and his kids') empire is built on illegal financial dealings with Russians? That would do it.

hepcat wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:54 pm

Everything you write these days is going to come back and bite you in the ass someday soon.

Keep it coming!

I think he's banking on the bad guys winning this one.

Trouble is, Rip, man, you're not gonna like living in Soviet Russia. Like, you think *this* country has a problem with "big government"?

LawBeefaroni wrote:

El Guapo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:14 pm

Also, while the pee tape is still unlikely, there's more evidence supporting its existence that you might think.

I don't think it's unlikely. In fact I'm pretty sure it exists. I just don't think it's enough. Not for this kind of lapdog behavior.

Evidence that his (and his kids') empire is built on illegal financial dealings with Russians? That would do it.

Every so often you read about how investigating the family finances is crossing a "red line" for Trump. Perhaps there are certain overseas transactions that he would prefer to remain private...

LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:38 pm

El Guapo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:14 pm

Also, while the pee tape is still unlikely, there's more evidence supporting its existence that you might think.

I don't think it's unlikely. In fact I'm pretty sure it exists. I just don't think it's enough. Not for this kind of lapdog behavior.

Evidence that his (and his kids') empire is built on illegal financial dealings with Russians? That would do it.

Yeah, personally I couldn't care less about a pee tape, or really any of his sexual preferences, unless some kind of violence is involved. The fact that this asshole is openly and obviously selling our country out to the Russians is so much worse than sexual proclivities.

Trump wrote:As I said today and many times before, “I have GREAT confidence in MY intelligence people.” However, I also recognize that in order to build a brighter future, we cannot exclusively focus on the past – as the world’s two largest nuclear powers, we must get along! #HELSINKI2018

At first you read it and think "Bullshit! He never says that, and he said the opposite today!"

Then you realize the real message is the all-caps "MY intelligence people," an implicit claim that the actual intel agencies are Deep State liars.

Fuck this scumbag. I want to see him in prison.

Reagan weeps every time a Republican defends the Evil Empire.

Holman wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:50 pm Fuck this scumbag. I want to see him in prison.

Same but I'll take out anyway possible at this point. He is a national security threat.

The power of the vote will bring the traitor down.

Scoop20906 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:57 pm The power of the vote will bring the traitor down.

You have more faith in what's left of our system than I do. Everything the framers tried to protect against unfolded right before us, out in the open, and over the last 2+ years. To expect the very same system that failed to keep us from getting to this point to then somehow get us out? I'm not feeling good.

Smoove_B wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:00 pm

Scoop20906 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:57 pm The power of the vote will bring the traitor down.

You have more faith in what's left of our system than I do. Everything the framers tried to protect against unfolded right before us, out in the open, and over the last 2+ years. To expect the very same system that failed to keep us from getting to this point to then somehow get us out? I'm not feeling good.

The other problem is, if after the election suspicious irregularities or evidence of electoral foul play emerge in swing states that have a Republican governor or secretary of state, how much faith do you have that said government will actually dig into those?

Been on a flight most of the day, and am just now catching up on things.

I should have just stayed unplugged. This is horrific.

Holman wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:50 pm

Trump wrote:As I said today and many times before, “I have GREAT confidence in MY intelligence people.” However, I also recognize that in order to build a brighter future, we cannot exclusively focus on the past – as the world’s two largest nuclear powers, we must get along! #HELSINKI2018

At first you read it and think "Bullshit! He never says that, and he said the opposite today!"

Then you realize the real message is the all-caps "MY intelligence people," an implicit claim that the actual intel agencies are Deep State liars.

Fuck this scumbag. I want to see him in prison.

I took the second Meaning immediately. I mean what authoritarian tyrant doesn't want his own secret police? Now what to call them. NKVD, Stasi, SD...not enough flair.

Adam Schiff wrote:Mariia Butina, a Russian national, has been charged with acting as a surreptitious Russian agent and establishing a secret back channel with the GOP through the NRA.

More likely to come on this; no wonder GOP members of HPSCI refused our request to bring her and others in.

Scoop20906 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:57 pm The power of the vote will bring the traitor down.

Vote, but load up on ammo.

Criminal defendants love to be compared to Al Capone.

My hope is Trump and Pence both die in their sleep some night and the next day the entire GOP grieve themselves to death with them. Then the DEMs all decide to retire and we start with a fresh DC.

Daehawk wrote:My hope is Trump and Pence both die in their sleep some night and the next day the entire GOP grieve themselves to death with them. Then the DEMs all decide to retire and we start with a fresh DC.

Jack Bauer becomes Prez?

I should pitch that as a tv show!

tjg_marantz wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:57 am

Daehawk wrote:My hope is Trump and Pence both die in their sleep some night and the next day the entire GOP grieve themselves to death with them. Then the DEMs all decide to retire and we start with a fresh DC.

Jack Bauer becomes Prez?

I should pitch that as a tv show!

The way things are going here we would be left with Devos as the last cabinet member.

Remus West wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:42 am

tjg_marantz wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:57 am

Daehawk wrote:My hope is Trump and Pence both die in their sleep some night and the next day the entire GOP grieve themselves to death with them. Then the DEMs all decide to retire and we start with a fresh DC.

Jack Bauer becomes Prez?

I should pitch that as a tv show!

The way things are going here we would be left with Devos as the last cabinet member.

Well the Ed secretary did alright in Battlestar Galactica. Though I never watched the last season. How’d it turn out?

Fitzy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:44 pm

Remus West wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:42 am

tjg_marantz wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:57 am

Daehawk wrote:My hope is Trump and Pence both die in their sleep some night and the next day the entire GOP grieve themselves to death with them. Then the DEMs all decide to retire and we start with a fresh DC.

Jack Bauer becomes Prez?

I should pitch that as a tv show!

The way things are going here we would be left with Devos as the last cabinet member.

Well the Ed secretary did alright in Battlestar Galactica. Though I never watched the last season. How’d it turn out?

In our version of BattleStar Galactica, when Devos becomes acting President we will all wish we were Cylons.

Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model

President Trump’s longtime lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, secretly recorded a conversation with Mr. Trump two months before the presidential election in which they discussed payments to a former Playboy model who said she had an affair with Mr. Trump, according to lawyers and others familiar with the recording.

The F.B.I. seized the recording this year during a raid on Mr. Cohen’s office. The Justice Department is investigating Mr. Cohen’s involvement in paying women to tamp down embarrassing news stories about Mr. Trump ahead of the 2016 election. Prosecutors want to know whether that violated federal campaign finance laws, and any conversation with Mr. Trump about those payments would be of keen interest to them.

In case you're wondering why Hair Furor is flailing about more than usual tonight, the FBI released the Carter Page FISA application today. It mostly confirms what we already know/suspected (that Page was a Russian stooge), and you know that makes Lil' Donnie throw a tantrum.

The Rigged Witch Hunt, headed by the 13 Angry Democrats (and now 4 more have been added, one who worked directly for Obama W.H.), seems intent on damaging the Republican Party’s chances in the November Election. This Democrat excuse for losing the ‘16 Election never ends!

Trump wrote:Congratulations to @JudicialWatch and @TomFitton on being successful in getting the Carter Page FISA documents. As usual they are ridiculously heavily redacted but confirm with little doubt that the Department of “Justice” and FBI misled the courts. Witch Hunt Rigged, a Scam!

1) Conservative grifters "JudicialWatch" had nothing to do with getting the docs released.

2) The docs confirm that the DOJ/FBI did not mislead the courts. The information Nunes and company claim was withheld from the courts is presented in these docs in black and white.

3) President throwing scare quotes around "Justice" here is creepy as hell.

Trump counts on the media to relay his tweets without noting he’s just making shit up that any cursory examination of the underlying documents would debunk. But he realizes few read these things (including him) and his voice is usually just amplified uncritically. So even though these documents show how pathetically mendacious these claims are, they still fuel his victimization narrative and get the media on to more comfortable ground for him.

Edit: See?

Trump wrote:So President Obama knew about Russia before the Election. Why didn’t he do something about it? Why didn’t he tell our campaign? Because it is all a big hoax, that’s why, and he thought Crooked Hillary was going to win!!!

Sooooo I guess actually agreeing with the IC and advisers and really meaning to say "wouldn't" in Helsinki just kind of wore off?

“Obama didn’t do anything to stop me from committing the crimes I committed, which I didn’t commit, because they never happened. But even though there were no crimes, the crimes are Obama’s fault, for not stopping me from not committing them.”

Winner.

Surprise!

Mueller Reveals Russia Investigation Just Elaborate Sting To Nail Clinton Child Sex-Slavery Ring

Defiant wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:52 am Surprise!

Mueller Reveals Russia Investigation Just Elaborate Sting To Nail Clinton Child Sex-Slavery Ring

Spoiler:

From the Onion, of course

Man, the onion must be getting lazy, coping headlines straight from Infowars.

Skinypupy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:31 pm “Obama didn’t do anything to stop me from committing the crimes I committed, which I didn’t commit, because they never happened. But even though there were no crimes, the crimes are Obama’s fault, for not stopping me from not committing them.”

I think the contention is Obama didn't know about Russia before the election, there was no Russia before the election, but Obama used Russia a pretext to spy on his campaign.

Only that contention is still completely flipfloppy on the multiple personalities of There was no Interference, There was Interference but it doesn't matter, There was interference but it failed "lock her up", No collusion, Putin like me least because I am tough on Russia, Putin and I need to be friends behind closed doors because diplomacy, All they talked about was adoptions, I'm considering handing over the US diplomat most strongly related to the Magnitsky sanctions so we can fly to Russia and have the FBI interview 12 Russians with government ties indicted by the FBI.

You know, when you have nothing to hide it's very easy to keep your story straight.

YellowKing wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:51 pm You know, when you have nothing to hide it's very easy to keep your story straight.

Yeah that's the whole thing in a nutshell isn't it?

But we all know his minions only need the story of 'everything is made up by a liberal, biased media that hates trump' to keep soldiering on. Not sure anything will ever break through that.

Hate being 'that guy' that follows his own post with another post, but this looks like breaking news(at least it was on the replay of the Rachel Maddow show I listened to on the way home...which really makes it old news )

Cohen says daddy did know about that meeting after all Everyone who is surprised raise your hand.

Really hard to even begin with how/why this matters, but I think it's interesting that Giuliani is now calling Cohen 'a liar' who has 'been lying for years'. Just kind of makes my head explode

I'm not going to link examples, but we're already at "Russia collusion is fine because Christopher Steele is a UK citizen."

I have no words.

We have arrived at the inevitable.

We are inching away from any kind of accountability so slowly that we won't notice the moment it disappears altogether.



"The hacking is the crime. The President didn't hack." So in this world, murder for hire isn't a crime?