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Smoove_B wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:55 pm How risky is it to see friends and family right now?

At the very least, you should continue to follow your state and local guidance, like limits on the number of people who can gather in one spot. Beyond that, the decision about how you move forward in our new normal is really going to be a personal one, Amesh Adalja, M.D., a senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins University Center for Health Security, tells SELF. “The virus hasn’t changed biologically. Social distancing has eased because hospital capacity is no longer an issue in most parts of the country,” he explains. “It doesn’t mean that you’re not at risk for contracting it.”

Overall lots of good information/opinions on realistic scenarios and how to think through things.

LordMortis wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:39 am

Smoove_B wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:55 pm How risky is it to see friends and family right now?

At the very least, you should continue to follow your state and local guidance, like limits on the number of people who can gather in one spot. Beyond that, the decision about how you move forward in our new normal is really going to be a personal one, Amesh Adalja, M.D., a senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins University Center for Health Security, tells SELF. “The virus hasn’t changed biologically. Social distancing has eased because hospital capacity is no longer an issue in most parts of the country,” he explains. “It doesn’t mean that you’re not at risk for contracting it.”

Overall lots of good information/opinions on realistic scenarios and how to think through things.

I'm itching to meet with someone without a mask and play a boardgame. Our state guideline is that won't happen until there is a vaccine, even if I have coworkers forgetting to put their masks on when around other coworkers (wherein I refuse to get near) and wherein the last time I was out in public everyone at Costco had their mask on but many didn't follow the arrows or social distancing and maybe 10% of the mask wearers were wearing their masks below their noses. I can only assume that is some sort of mutual rejection of mask wearing protest while still not deciding to boycott and finding that the store is too fatigued or too worried to tell them to do it right.

noxiousdog wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:55 am Would it be possible to play outside?

YellowKing wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:08 amIn March I would have never dreamed of doing it, but it's hard to watch thousands of people packed together on the streets protesting, and come to the conclusion that I can't go play disc golf with two friends. Or believe that I'm allowed to send my kids to daycare with a dozen of other strangers' kids, but I can't have one person over to help me move.

El Guapo wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:17 am FWIW I've been operating under the view that outdoor interactions with limited number of people at a sufficient distance and with masks is sufficiently safe.

Formix wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:58 am I'm interested to hear what Smoove thinks about Georgia not blowing up in numbers, but NC is. It's counterintuitive, but I'm wondering if it's a reporting SNAFU like Florida's "pneumonia" or just a sign that we're still in the early days and don't really have a handle on this thing.

LordMortis wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:03 am

noxiousdog wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:55 am Would it be possible to play outside?

My experience with gaming outside is that wind is not gamer friendly.

Smoove_B wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:34 am

LordMortis wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:03 am

noxiousdog wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:55 am Would it be possible to play outside?

My experience with gaming outside is that wind is not gamer friendly.

I've had a friend that's been asking me as well - offering the same idea. In theory it sounds great. Then remember everyone needs to bring their own food, drink and eating utensils. Are you touching the same game pieces? Cards, token, etc... What happens when someone has to use the bathroom? I know I sound like a paranoid lunatic, but any one of those scenario elements are potentially are exposures.

But in phase 2, which "most schools can enter right now," according to Northam, schools may offer instruction for preschoolers through third graders, English language learners and students with disabilities. Summer camps in school buildings will also be allowed. However, strict social distancing measures need to be enforced, such as only one child assigned to each seat on a school bus and limiting large gatherings to 50 people.

When playing sports outside, 10 feet of physical distance should be maintained by the students and spectators at all times and shared items, such as balls, must be disinfected between uses.

In phase 3, all students will be allowed to receive in-person instruction, but with strict social distancing measures in place, "which may require alternative schedules that blend in-person and remote learning for students," according to a news release.

"We expect schools to have six feet between desks and work spaces," Northam said during the news conference. "There will be daily health screenings and wearing of face coverings by staff where physical distancing cannot be maintained."

Northam noted, however, that his plan is just guidance and not a mandate. Both public and private schools will have the flexibility to create their own plans based on these guidelines, which must then be submitted for approval by the Virginia Department of Education.

YellowKing wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:37 am NC has been getting record numbers too, and the governor just keeps telling us "We're very concerned that all the numbers are going in the wrong direction" but also "We're not going to change any of our re-opening protocols or guidance - full speed ahead and see you at school in the fall!"

March 2020: Numbers rising - "EVERYONE SHELTER IN PLACE! BUSINESSES CLOSED!"

June 2020: Numbers worse than they were in March - "Ehh....I guess we'll just keep an eye on it."

YellowKing wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:37 am NC has been getting record numbers too, and the governor just keeps telling us "We're very concerned that all the numbers are going in the wrong direction" but also "We're not going to change any of our re-opening protocols or guidance - full speed ahead and see you at school in the fall!"

March 2020: Numbers rising - "EVERYONE SHELTER IN PLACE! BUSINESSES CLOSED!"

June 2020: Numbers worse than they were in March - "Ehh....I guess we'll just keep an eye on it."

Smoove_B wrote:I've had a friend that's been asking me as well - offering the same idea. In theory it sounds great. Then remember everyone needs to bring their own food, drink and eating utensils. Are you touching the same game pieces? Cards, token, etc... What happens when someone has to use the bathroom? I know I sound like a paranoid lunatic, but any one of those scenario elements are potentially are exposures.

To this point, the scenario you describe has no risk unless one of the individuals present is under active infection without displaying symptoms yet. Now, since you don’t know if that’s the case, the risk is obviously not zero.

Unagi wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:58 am Looking at the data (Worldometer), I feel like California is on fire.

They had ‘done so well’, but their climb is off the charts.

Florida data doesn’t look as good as they pretend either.

WYFF4 wrote:South Carolina Gov. Henry McMaster has no intention of restricting businesses in South Carolina after a spike in confirmed cases of coronavirus.

WYFF News 4's Amanda Crawford reached out the governor's office after the recent spike in cases statewide.

"The governor has no intention of reinstating restrictions on businesses," Communications Director Brian Symmes said. "Every time he’s made a decision to lift restrictions, it was accompanied by guidelines for businesses to follow that will help protect South Carolinians. With those recommended guidelines still in place, there’s no reason to close businesses again."

As of Tuesday, South Carolina reported 15,228 cases and 568 deaths. The Department of Health and Environmental Control had tested 256,710 people as of Tuesday with 23,956 of those tests being positive.

WYFF News 4 Investigates is tracking cases reported, deaths, hospitalizations and testing across South Carolina.

On May 10, the seven-day moving average of daily cases reported in the state was 146. The figure more than doubled by June 3, and a week later hit its highest level ever – 408.3 See chart below or mobile users click here to see chart).

The 2,222 cases reported in Greenville County is the highest rate for any county in the state, though 14 other counties have a higher case rate when compared to population.

The other nine Upstate counties have a total of 1,857 cases reported combined

LordMortis wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:55 am Sadly, the next (and final) phase as it stands is "when there is a vaccine"

Smoove_B wrote:With a slight correction. We know that symptomatic people are problematic. We now suspect (but don't know) that asymptomatic transmission is lower risk. What we don't know yet either is for the pre-symptomatic people- the true risk they represent.

malchior wrote:I wouldn't be shocked if SC cases are clustered in the Charlotte/Fort Mills region which has exploded in density over the last few years.

Trump says the virus is now reduced to just the "embers" and "ashes" of a spent pandemic as patience for nationwide lock downs fades and states aggressively open up.

The Navajo Nation is facing a unique set of challenges amid the coronavirus outbreak that has reportedly led to a death toll higher than that of 13 different states.

The nation, which straddles the borders of Arizona, Utah and New Mexico, is home to about 175,000 people — and yet it has more cases of COVID-19 than eight states, according to The New York Times data.

The nation’s first positive case was reported on March 17, and as of Monday, there have been 1,197 confirmed cases and 44 deaths, meaning the per capita infection rate is 10 times higher than neighboring Arizona, NBC News reported.

The area has just 12 health care facilities across 27,000 square miles, and many Navajo citizens suffer chronic health issues like diabetes, heart disease and obesity, according to the outlet, which puts those who contract coronavirus at a higher risk of severe illness, the CDC has said.

Enough wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:39 pm This is a fucking travesty happening that is not getting nearly enough attention or help,

The Navajo Nation is facing a unique set of challenges amid the coronavirus outbreak that has reportedly led to a death toll higher than that of 13 different states.

The nation, which straddles the borders of Arizona, Utah and New Mexico, is home to about 175,000 people — and yet it has more cases of COVID-19 than eight states, according to The New York Times data.

The nation’s first positive case was reported on March 17, and as of Monday, there have been 1,197 confirmed cases and 44 deaths, meaning the per capita infection rate is 10 times higher than neighboring Arizona, NBC News reported.

The area has just 12 health care facilities across 27,000 square miles, and many Navajo citizens suffer chronic health issues like diabetes, heart disease and obesity, according to the outlet, which puts those who contract coronavirus at a higher risk of severe illness, the CDC has said.

LordMortis wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:49 pm

Enough wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:39 pm This is a fucking travesty happening that is not getting nearly enough attention or help,

The Navajo Nation is facing a unique set of challenges amid the coronavirus outbreak that has reportedly led to a death toll higher than that of 13 different states.

The nation, which straddles the borders of Arizona, Utah and New Mexico, is home to about 175,000 people — and yet it has more cases of COVID-19 than eight states, according to The New York Times data.

The nation’s first positive case was reported on March 17, and as of Monday, there have been 1,197 confirmed cases and 44 deaths, meaning the per capita infection rate is 10 times higher than neighboring Arizona, NBC News reported.

The area has just 12 health care facilities across 27,000 square miles, and many Navajo citizens suffer chronic health issues like diabetes, heart disease and obesity, according to the outlet, which puts those who contract coronavirus at a higher risk of severe illness, the CDC has said.

That's from April 20th. I'm curious to know what the stats comparison is now. If things have comparatively leveled or if they're even more fooked from the hot zones all over the southwest right now.

That said, 12 health care facilities over 27,000 square miles or 1 per 2,250 square miles is nucking futz. Having care within a short drive is mandatory on my "where to live" list.

"I think right now, most Americans are not ready to lock back down, and I completely understand that. ... I understand people are willing to live alongside this virus. It means that between 800 and 1,000 Americans are going to die every single day," Dr. Ashish Jha, director of the Harvard Global Health Institute, told CNN.