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Smoove_B wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:17 pm For those keeping track, we're collectively still in the initial outbreak and it's now surging in ~8 different states.
I'm reading the gauges right we are just in a steady state burn and now we're seeing other nations essentially making the same call.
I have a faint hope that the effort to reopen schools will get some contact-tracing here at least. It's a major part of our district's reopening plan that they just announced. We obviously are not going to get the needed big boost on the federal level any time soon.Smoove_B wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:24 pmI'm reading the gauges right we are just in a steady state burn and now we're seeing other nations essentially making the same call.
Yes. The unspoken message is that hospitals and medical staff are now prepared to deal with cases and that there really isn't a severe danger to anyone other than fat old people.
I wish I could publicly say more about what's happening in NJ right now, but I'm so gutted and professionally frustrated; it's beyond depressing. Our new cases numbers are going down (good) and we're slowly opening back up (potentially good) but we have done minimal at a state level to address contact tracing (bad, very bad). Tracing systems and infrastructure that should have been put in place 30+ days ago haven't even been started yet. If there's another surge in cases, I am not confident we're going to know about it until it's too late. My genuine feeling now is the private industry and general public are driving the policy bus, dragging us into resumption of "normal" without adequate proactive systems in place to make sure we don't go back to mid-April levels of outbreak.
The NJ "home rule" policy is something historians will talking about as part of their analysis of this outbreak. You can see the tip of the iceberg here.
Yes. It's a mult-layered suck burrito. To be clear, shutting down the state was the right move; it absolutely saved lives. However, by doing so it revealed just how gutted and ineffectual our state health department is; everything - everything is on the locals. The problem is that you can't let ~95 local health agencies covering hundreds of towns create their own policy on how to open a restaurant. Or a pool. Or a day camp. Or a school. Everything must come from the state and the locals must adopt and then enforce. But the state cannot quickly make policy recommendations or publish guidelines because staffing is minimal. Lots and lots of finger pointing right now. Certain industries have stepped in and offered recommended policy guidelines but the state still needs to review, approve and then disseminate. All while trying to manage an outbreak and minimize disease spread.malchior wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:30 pm I have to wonder if it is a crazy intersection of national policy which: extracts dollars from us and refusing to help when we need it and a malignant administration which refuses to address the pandemic mixed in with the home rule shit, and just a weak Governor? Murphy has been pretty ineffective with constant battles with Sweeney since he got in office. It is like a perfect shit storm.
Well said.malchior wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:46 pm I saw somewhere where someone joked that historians will specialize in quarters or months of 2020. It is just dysfunction all across everything/everywhere at the same time. The only thing people got right was to take the opportunity to tell the world that we're fucking done with this police/racism shit.
Case in point - businesses are permitted to open Monday. Where are the guidelines? Oh, they're coming. It's Thursday afternoon!Octavious wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:18 pm My office opens on Monday. Shocking nobody that follows my company history.
In a move that runs contrary to Gov. Phil Murphy’s latest executive order, Asbury Park will allow its restaurants to have limited indoor dining for the first time since the state’s eateries were banned from allowing patrons to dine inside during the coronavirus pandemic.
The Asbury Park City Council approved a resolution Wednesday evening allowing restaurants to allow indoor dining at 25% of the building’s capacity or 50 people, whichever is lower, beginning Monday.
Read the thread Enough linked. Abuse by GOP and deplorables, basically.El Guapo wrote:Any context as to why she is resigning now? Is it voluntary?
I did. She was hated by deplorables, and has been for some time. But what prompted her to resign *now*?Zaxxon wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:55 pmRead the thread Enough linked. Abuse by GOP and deplorables, basically.El Guapo wrote:Any context as to why she is resigning now? Is it voluntary?
Good question, but not typically the type that will see a concrete answer given. We know the gov wanted her to stay (hence persuading her to stay on in an advisory capacity), so it sure seems voluntary to me.El Guapo wrote:I did. She was hated by deplorables, and has been for some time. But what prompted her to resign *now*?Zaxxon wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:55 pmRead the thread Enough linked. Abuse by GOP and deplorables, basically.El Guapo wrote:Any context as to why she is resigning now? Is it voluntary?
Based on drive-by observations of a couple of restaurants that have turned their parking lots into patios, I am not going there, as much as I'd love a draft beer and a freshly prepared meal. Lots of young guys standing around without masks, drinking Bud Light in bottles and making no discernible effort at distancing. It's just outdoor party time. The virus is still quite active in my town -- our mayor just tested positive yesterday. Not worth the risk.El Guapo wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:50 pm Things are reopening in MA. Saw outdoor dining at restaurants yesterday for the first time since this all started (which I understand is generally viewed as safe with appropriate distancing, FWIW).
YahooEnough wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:13 pm Wow, DOW is down 1600 points. Did Wall Street just wake up and smell the coffee again finally after the Fed comments? We have had a long run of irrational exuberance that appears to be breaking...
Stocks slid, with the S&P 500 and Dow pointing to a third straight session of losses, following the Federal Reserve’s monetary policy decision, in which policymakers highlighted the ongoing economic concerns spurred by the coronavirus pandemic and measures taken to contain it.
The Dow dropped more than 6%, or greater than 1,700 points, at session lows and paced toward its worst day since mid-March. The VIX Volatility Index (^VIX), or so-called fear gauge, spiked more than 38%.
I'm inclined to do some research / asking around about what restaurants around here are doing the best with spacing and precautions, and see about arranging a date with my wife there. We didn't eat out a ton before anyway, so I don't think we're going to do much now. But it would be nice to have a genuine date night again.Kraken wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:16 pmBased on drive-by observations of a couple of restaurants that have turned their parking lots into patios, I am not going there, as much as I'd love a draft beer and a freshly prepared meal. Lots of young guys standing around without masks, drinking Bud Light in bottles and making no discernible effort at distancing. It's just outdoor party time. The virus is still quite active in my town -- our mayor just tested positive yesterday. Not worth the risk.El Guapo wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:50 pm Things are reopening in MA. Saw outdoor dining at restaurants yesterday for the first time since this all started (which I understand is generally viewed as safe with appropriate distancing, FWIW).
The one bar that I would most like to visit reopened yesterday. They already had a patio, and expanded it into their back parking lot, which is heavily wooded. It's a pleasant space. But they aren't taking reservations, so those tables are always going to be taken by their regulars. Not worth the drive.
I reckon I'll hold out for phase 3, if we get there. Once indoor seating returns, all those new parking lot patios will be a lot less crowded.
And I'm finally starting to pick up and buy again.Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:18 pmYahooEnough wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:13 pm Wow, DOW is down 1600 points. Did Wall Street just wake up and smell the coffee again finally after the Fed comments? We have had a long run of irrational exuberance that appears to be breaking...
Stocks slid, with the S&P 500 and Dow pointing to a third straight session of losses, following the Federal Reserve’s monetary policy decision, in which policymakers highlighted the ongoing economic concerns spurred by the coronavirus pandemic and measures taken to contain it.
The Dow dropped more than 6%, or greater than 1,700 points, at session lows and paced toward its worst day since mid-March. The VIX Volatility Index (^VIX), or so-called fear gauge, spiked more than 38%.
Starting. It may not be wise this early. But I've tucked away everything nearly 3 months running, marveling at what people consider value in a market where the only being consumed is food and media. And buying on the way down seems to be easier for me than pretending I know what a bottom is. I was pretty happy with the results of buying on the way down in early March. I just have to not over commit too early, as part of the reason for keeping all things cash is if manufacturing completely shits the bed then I'll be out of job not just on/off/on/off/on/off furlough.Death threats will do that, yes.Zaxxon wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:00 pmI'd guess she hit the breaking point, but that's just a guess.
Not to mention the hypocrisy of trying to keep people safe and being attacked for it, probably because you are woman. I say this because in Michigan we don't attack the Health department. We attack the governor. We largely followed suit from Ohio. They were the beacon that got our state moving even as we were way harder hit. What do Whitmer and Acton have in common? What sets apart DeWine from Acton and Whitmer? Hmmm...
Apologies in advance for the cross-pollination. But I wonder if it's the same reason that it's primarily trans femmes that are taking all the heat re JKR screed?LordMortis wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:47 pmNot to mention the hypocrisy of trying to keep people safe and being attacked for it, probably because you are woman. I say this because in Michigan we don't attack the Health department. We attack the governor. We largely followed suit from Ohio. They were the beacon that got our state moving even as we were way harder hit. What do Whitmer and Acton have in common? What sets apart DeWine from Acton and Whitmer? Hmmm...
This is kinda the year cross-pollinating social awareness.Enough wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:56 pm Apologies in advance for the cross-pollination. But I wonder if it's the same reason that it's primarily trans femmes that are taking all the heat re JKR screed?
El Guapo wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 5:28 pm https://twitter.com/JamesSurowiecki/sta ... 9512546305
Interesting. Doesn't make masks a cure-all (and when you go out you can't trust that others around you will be wearing masks), but still a positive sign on the efficacy of masks.
That or he doesn't care.LawBeefaroni wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 5:33 pmPlease, no one tell dear leader or he'll be promoting daily hairspray injections and oral ingestion of Barbicide.
https://twitter.com/conradhackett/statu ... 2408940546El Guapo wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 5:28 pm https://twitter.com/JamesSurowiecki/sta ... 9512546305
Interesting. Doesn't make masks a cure-all (and when you go out you can't trust that others around you will be wearing masks), but still a positive sign on the efficacy of masks.
I'm not sure I'm to be ready to work around people who send their kids back to school come fall. I'm pretty sure I'm going to be filled anxiety and try to avoid all of the young parents in the office, which is not good for my position.Unagi wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 5:53 pm I'm not sure I am going to be ready to send my two kids back to school come fall, and I anticipate they (the schools) will be pushing for it.
I'm not sure what I'm to do.
I work in a room with no windows and an ancient hvac system that blows on my desk. Our building in home to the manly not gonna wear a mask facilities dudes that every time I go in for essential IT duties are not masked and meeting in close quarters in tiny offices against university policy. Can't say I am stoked about going back either.LordMortis wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 5:56 pmI'm not sure I'm to be ready to work around people who send their kids back to school come fall. I'm pretty sure I'm going to be filled anxiety and try to avoid all of the young parents in the office, which is not good for my position.Unagi wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 5:53 pm I'm not sure I am going to be ready to send my two kids back to school come fall, and I anticipate they (the schools) will be pushing for it.
I'm not sure what I'm to do.
The Northern Colorado Drug Task Force says they have seen a significant spike in drugs usage since the emergence of the coronavirus pandemic. Drug overdose fatalities in 2020 are already on pace to more than double the number from last year.
Twenty-five people died of drug overdoses in Larimer County in 2019 while 28 Larimer County residents have died due to drug overdoses in the first six months of 2020. Only 21 have died in the county due to COVID-19 in the same period.
There is no single reason for the surges. In some cases, more testing has revealed more cases. In others, local outbreaks are big enough to push statewide tallies higher. But experts think at least some are due to lifting stay-at-home orders, school and business closures, and other restrictions put in place during the spring to stem the virus’s spread.
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The virus is also gradually fanning out.
“It is a disaster that spreads,” said Dr. Jay Butler, who oversees coronavirus response work at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. “It’s not like there’s an entire continental seismic shift and everyone feels the shaking all at once.”
That is also happening globally. Places that suffered early on such as China, Italy and Spain have calmed down but Brazil, India and other countries that were spared initially are seeing large increases. The world is seeing more than 100,000 newly-confirmed cases every day, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.
The virus first landed on the U.S. coasts, carried by international travelers infected abroad. For months, the epicenter was in northeastern states. More recently, the biggest increases have been in the South and the West.
I didn't even think about the HVAC part.Enough wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:01 pm I work in a room with no windows and an ancient hvac system that blows on my desk. Our building in home to the manly not gonna wear a mask facilities dudes that every time I go in for essential IT duties are not masked and meeting in close quarters in tiny offices against university policy. Can't say I am stoked about going back either.
