Unagi wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:30 pm
or to be silly (and not in the spirit of the question really), I would maybe say:
Gaia
Cthulhu
Yahweh
I think of each of these precludes the existence of the others.
when I can pick from anywhere in space and time, I don't think there is such thing as 'preclude'.
But, it was indeed my 'silly' answer that I don't think was in the spirit of the question.
Re: Random randomness
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:07 pm
by Kraken
I have this ancient butterfly sponge mop whose head has disintegrated. The brand name is Quickie, and it says "Use replacement type H" right on it. How very helpful! Do you think I can find Quickie type H refills anywhere? No I cannot, after trying for 20 minutes. Looks like Ima have to buy a whole new mop. They aren't expensive; I just hate to throw away a perfectly good handle and squeeze mechanism. The replacement's attachment nuts have to fit into a molded recess, so I can't even drill new holes to fit the now-ubiquitous Type S. (sigh) New mop it is.
Re: Random randomness
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:54 pm
by Daehawk
Never had a butterfly sponge mop. My sponge mops tend to sit so long between uses that they become hard or start to crumble apart over time and I get bits left everywhere.
BTW are sponges even sponged any longer? Like from living stuff in the sea? Ive thought they've been artificially made for decades now.
Re: Random randomness
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 8:45 pm
by Kraken
Sponges are cellulose. Nowadays the kids are buying polypropylene.
Unagi wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:30 pm
or to be silly (and not in the spirit of the question really), I would maybe say:
Gaia
Cthulhu
Yahweh
I think of each of these precludes the existence of the others.
when I can pick from anywhere in space and time, I don't think there is such thing as 'preclude'.
But, it was indeed my 'silly' answer that I don't think was in the spirit of the question.
My comment was offered in the spirit of sillytheology!
Re: Random randomness
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 9:39 pm
by Max Peck
Kraken wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:07 pm
I have this ancient butterfly sponge mop whose head has disintegrated. The brand name is Quickie, and it says "Use replacement type H" right on it. How very helpful! Do you think I can find Quickie type H refills anywhere? No I cannot, after trying for 20 minutes. Looks like Ima have to buy a whole new mop. They aren't expensive; I just hate to throw away a perfectly good handle and squeeze mechanism. The replacement's attachment nuts have to fit into a molded recess, so I can't even drill new holes to fit the now-ubiquitous Type S. (sigh) New mop it is.
Kraken wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:07 pm
I have this ancient butterfly sponge mop whose head has disintegrated. The brand name is Quickie, and it says "Use replacement type H" right on it. How very helpful! Do you think I can find Quickie type H refills anywhere? No I cannot, after trying for 20 minutes. Looks like Ima have to buy a whole new mop. They aren't expensive; I just hate to throw away a perfectly good handle and squeeze mechanism. The replacement's attachment nuts have to fit into a molded recess, so I can't even drill new holes to fit the now-ubiquitous Type S. (sigh) New mop it is.
Looks like that's the elusive type H, based on the photo (text doesn't say). Unfortunately, it's pickup-only from a store 12 miles away in a direction I don't routinely go, so I won't find out. I'm not THAT devoted to my mop handle.
Both Walmart and Amazon list them, but they're both out of stock. That could mean that it's no longer in production - it may be time for a new mop. Don't worry, though, you'll get a more modern one where you don't have to worry about the head disintegrating (the mop will break well before that happens.)
Re: Random randomness
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:22 am
by Daehawk
If you could travel at near light speed the time passage on Earth compared to you would really depend on just how close you could get to lightspeed....little increases mean big time passes.
How many years would pass if you travel at the speed of light for 1 year?
At 99.99 percent of the speed of light, a craft traveling for one year would come back to a world that had aged more than 70 years in their absence. At 99.99999 percent of the speed of light, for a year, more than 2000 years would pass on Earth.
Still thats all time travel in a way into the future. Theres no going backwards in time that we know of. I wonder why time is so linear. Then again time itself is a perceived human thing made up by us.
Re: Random randomness
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:36 am
by Blackhawk
Human senses and minds are limited. We see the universe around us through human eyes, and assume that the universe conforms to what we can understand. But we developed inside the universe - it didn't form around us, based on our needs.
Just because we experience time linearly doesn't mean that it's linear (or even that it's time.) We're the 2d being looking at a sphere and thinking it's a circle.
Both Walmart and Amazon list them, but they're both out of stock. That could mean that it's no longer in production - it may be time for a new mop. Don't worry, though, you'll get a more modern one where you don't have to worry about the head disintegrating (the mop will break well before that happens.)
Yeah, I already struck out with their where-to-buy page. Ima buy me a 21st century mop. It's time.
Re: Random randomness
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:53 am
by Kraken
Daehawk wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:22 am
I wonder why time is so linear. Then again time itself is a perceived human thing made up by us.
Entropy. Eggs never unscramble themselves, nor does bacon move from your belly to your plate.
Re: Random randomness
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:35 am
by Max Peck
Kraken wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:53 am
nor does bacon move from your belly to your plate.
Technically it can do that, but it's never a good thing when it happens.
Daehawk wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:22 am
I wonder why time is so linear. Then again time itself is a perceived human thing made up by us.
Entropy. Eggs never unscramble themselves, nor does bacon move from your belly to your plate.
Are you sure?
/snipped youtube vid/
That’s really just about the idea of infinity.
True, but given what we don't know about the universe, just how sure are we that it's not infinite and they won't unscramble?
“Curiously enough, the only thing that went through the mind of the bowl of petunias as it fell was Oh no, not again. Many people have speculated that if we knew exactly why the bowl of petunias had thought that we would know a lot more about the nature of the Universe than we do now.”
Daehawk wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:22 am
I wonder why time is so linear. Then again time itself is a perceived human thing made up by us.
Entropy. Eggs never unscramble themselves, nor does bacon move from your belly to your plate.
Are you sure?
/snipped youtube vid/
That’s really just about the idea of infinity.
True, but given what we don't know about the universe, just how sure are we that it's not infinite and they won't unscramble?
It’s fine to understand the eggs -may- unscramble, but when that also lives with equal chances that they -may- become an iPhone, it’s just not as meaningful.
In other words, scrambled eggs don’t really stand a chance of being “unscrambled”, they just stand a chance to become any other object at all - and that includes an egg and an iPhone.
It’s not reverse entropy. It’s just more entropy, to the infinite extreme.
Re: Random randomness
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:03 pm
by Smoove_B
Wandered into random randomness, ended up in the "Whatcha smokin'?" thread.
Daehawk wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:22 am
I wonder why time is so linear. Then again time itself is a perceived human thing made up by us.
Entropy. Eggs never unscramble themselves, nor does bacon move from your belly to your plate.
Are you sure?
/snipped youtube vid/
That’s really just about the idea of infinity.
True, but given what we don't know about the universe, just how sure are we that it's not infinite and they won't unscramble?
It’s fine to understand the eggs -may- unscramble, but when that also lives with equal chances that they -may- become an iPhone, it’s just not as meaningful.
In other words, scrambled eggs don’t really stand a chance of being “unscrambled”, they just stand a chance to become any other object at all - and that includes an egg and an iPhone.
It’s not reverse entropy. It’s just more entropy, to the infinite extreme.
Not really entropy. Entropy is an increase in disorder. Either of your options is more ordered than what you started with. And it really couldn't turn into an iPhone as it doesn't have the necessary parts to do it (assuming we are only concentrating on what started as scrambled eggs).
Re: Random randomness
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:12 pm
by stessier
Smoove_B wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:03 pm
Wandered into random randomness, ended up in the "Whatcha smokin'?" thread.
Meh, it's a way to pass a random Thursday.
Re: Random randomness
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:36 pm
by Unagi
Smoove_B wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:03 pm
Wandered into random randomness, ended up in the "Whatcha smokin'?" thread.
Man, even the Random randomness thread isn't safe these days.
I'll try to curb my apparent desire for conversation.
Re: Random randomness
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:51 pm
by Smoove_B
?
In a thread about random randomness, I wasn't expecting a discussion on the nature of time. What's next, the origin of consciousness in a post-bicameral mind?
Regardless, there was a quote by Douglas Adams, which is always a winner.
Re: Random randomness
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:31 pm
by TheMix
Smoove_B wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:51 pm
Regardless, there was a quote by Douglas Adams, which is always a winner.
Re: Random randomness
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:24 pm
by Isgrimnur
Time is an illusion. Lunchtime, doubly so.
Re: Random randomness
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:37 pm
by Jaymon
This time will be different
This time will be right
And so I say
Let there be light.
Re: Random randomness
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 4:48 pm
by jztemple2
Today is my actual 70th birthday day, so I got my final presents. First another tank top:
There were also a romantic card and a set of blow up flamingos for the pool with built in lights. I don't have pics of those as it isn't yet night and I have yet to blow up the other two, the first already being in the pool.
Finally, as we were leaving for lunch, I found the final surprise:
It would have been a perfect day except my car wouldn't start so we took the wife's car. Happily after we got home I was able to use my battery jumper device to convince myself that it was just the car battery that failed and so I ran down to the parts store and got a new one, then installed it myself. My wife pointed out to me afterwards that I could have just had them install it, but what's the fun in that .
We are off to dinner in my car so we'll see if I'm a hero or a zero with the battery change-out.
Re: Random randomness
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 4:52 pm
by TheMix
Happy flocking Birthday!
Re: Random randomness
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 5:23 pm
by Blackhawk
Get the flock out of here!
Happy Birthday.
Re: Random randomness
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 5:39 pm
by Daehawk
Happy Bday sir!
Re: Random randomness
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 5:44 pm
by Isgrimnur
jztemple2 wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 4:48 pm
another tank top:
Sun's out, guns out! We need a pic of you flexing.
and a set of blow up flamingos for the pool with built in lights. I don't have pics of those as it isn't yet night and I have yet to blow up the other two, the first already being in the pool.
so we took the wife's car. Happily after we got home I was able to use my battery jumper device to convince myself that it was just the car battery that failed and so I ran down to the parts store and got a new one, then installed it myself. My wife pointed out to me afterwards that I could have just had them install it, but what's the fun in that