Re: 2012 Elections
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:48 pm
And then they would have been pilloried for failing to respond or inform the public in a timely manner. It's damned if you do, damned if you don't.
That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons bring us some web forums whereupon we can gather
http://garbi.online/forum/
Yup. They handled it as best they could. Unfortunately that wasn't very good. With hindsight, it's easy to see that they should've equivocated until the conflicting versions were resolved. But as Canuck observed, I think that ship has sailed now that Romney has dropped the subject.Isgrimnur wrote:And then they would have been pilloried for failing to respond or inform the public in a timely manner. It's damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Another way to look at those numbers:Exodor wrote:Romney's plans for defense spending
Holy shit, gonna take a LOT of loopholes to pay for that.
I'm assuming Travis Sharp does.Holman wrote:I are trying hardly to understand mathematicals.
Does Romney's spending presume a massive, sharp rise in the GDP during 2013?
It goes from a little under 600 to a little under 900, not double, closer to 50%Canuck wrote:Somethings strange there. He first graph suggests that the spending will almost double in ten years. That means in the second graph where it stays at 4% then wouldn't the GDP also have to double? I did terribly in highschool math so I'm probably wrong. I'm sure that would require at least a huge increase in GDP at any rate.
There's more, but didn't want to quote too much of the article.The network political departments get busy and, in short order, discover that the machines used in Hamilton County, Ohio—the county home of Cincinnati— are supplied by Hart Intercivic, a national provider of voting systems in use in a wide variety of counties scattered throughout the states of Texas, Oklahoma, Hawaii, Colorado and Ohio.
As reported in the New York Times, “At polling stations, teams working on the study were able to pick locks to access memory cards and use hand-held devices to plug false vote counts into machines. At boards of election, they were able to introduce malignant software into servers.”
We learn that one of the companies whose machines had failed was none other than Hart Intercivic....
It turns out that Hart Intercivic is owned, in large part, by H.I.G. Capital...
Tony Tamer, H.I.G.’s founder, turns out to be a major bundler for the Mitt Romney campaign, along with three other directors of H.I.G. who are also big-time money raisers for Romney.
Indeed, as fate would have it, two of those directors—Douglas Berman and Brian Schwartz— were actually in attendance at the now infamous “47 percent” fundraiser in Boca Raton, Florida.
To everyone’s amazement, we learn that two members of the Hart Intercivic board of directors, Neil Tuch and Jeff Bohl, have made direct contributions to the Romney campaign. This, despite the fact that they represent 40 percent of the full board of directors of a company whose independent, disinterested and studiously non-partisan status in any election taking place on their voting machines would seemingly be a ‘no brainer’.
And finally, we learn that H.I.G. is the 11th largest of all the contributors to the Romney effort.
http://myfox8.com/2012/10/23/guilford-c ... candidate/On Monday, several voters complained that their electronic ballot machine cast the wrong vote. All the complaints were made by people who voted at the Bur-Mil Park polling location.
One of the voters, Sher Coromalis, says she cast her ballot for Governor Mitt Romney, but every time she entered her vote the machine defaulted to President Obama.
“I was so upset that this could happen,” said Coromalis.
Guilford County Board of Elections Director George Gilbert says the problem arises every election. It can be resolved after the machine is re-calibrated by poll workers.
“It’s not a conspiracy it’s just a machine that needs to be corrected,” Gilbert said.
I like the comments bitching about how it's an obvious bias in favour of D vs. R.Rip wrote:Man, I so wish I could see the reaction of you guys if you got hit by this but with it defaulting to Romney.
http://myfox8.com/2012/10/23/guilford-c ... candidate/
I can just imagine a few of you hitting that thing over and over trying to not vote for him. I would bet Fireball might actually turn into a fireball.
This is my main issue with all these voting machines. There is no reason not to have a paper trail that can be referred to if issues arise.Defiant wrote:I'm not worried so much worried about conspiracy when it comes to electronic voter machines, but failures like the above. Especially with the lack of a paper trail and transparency that seems to be the case with these types of machines.
If it weren't common knowledge that computers are lousy with "liberal bias", that might be a good theory.silverjon wrote:I like the comments bitching about how it's an obvious bias in favour of D vs. R.
Because my first guess to troubleshoot the problem would be that it's a selection based on alphabetical order.
We darken ovals on a paper ballot and then hand it to a jackbooted thug who feeds it into a machine that I suspect might be a shredder.RunningMn9 wrote:How does my crappy little town have electronic machines with a paper trail, and no one else seems to have them?
Yeah, I called that even before the first debate.I think this is the right thread...and it WAS YK that said that NC would definitely not be for Obama this time?
Ouch! Mitt no happy.Defiant wrote:Powell endorses Obama
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/2 ... 11162.html" target="_blank
*cough* *cough*Powell wrote:and did not get us into any new wars
I can feel their alarm when I request a Green ballot. I live in one of the most conservative districts in MA. Nice people just don't do that sort of thing here.YellowKing wrote: My favorite part is the old ladies scowling when they see I'm a registered Republican. Guess they think I'm there to steal their Medicare.
In North Carolina? They must do a lot of scowling then.YellowKing wrote:
My favorite part is the old ladies scowling when they see I'm a registered Republican. Guess they think I'm there to steal their Medicare.
NC is only red when it comes to federal government. Our state government and governorships tend to lean Democratic. If those old ladies are anything like my grandparents, they're card-carrying Democrats who voted for Reagan, both Bushes, and Dole.Like me, I am guessing YK lives in a blue county of a typically very red state.
... and Helms.YellowKing wrote:NC is only red when it comes to federal government. Our state government and governorships tend to lean Democratic. If those old ladies are anything like my grandparents, they're card-carrying Democrats who voted for Reagan, both Bushes, and Dole.Like me, I am guessing YK lives in a blue county of a typically very red state.
His top legal staff were spending their time on this?It seemed like a minor adjustment. To comply with the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court ruling that legalized gay marriage in 2003, the state Registry of Vital Records and Statistics said it needed to revise its birth certificate forms for babies born to same-sex couples. The box for “father” would be relabeled “father or second parent,’’ reflecting the new law.
But to then-Governor Mitt Romney, who opposed child-rearing by gay couples, the proposal symbolized unacceptable changes in traditional family structures.
He rejected the Registry of Vital Records plan and insisted that his top legal staff individually review the circumstances of every birth to same-sex parents. Only after winning approval from Romney’s lawyers could hospital officials and town clerks across the state be permitted to cross out by hand the word “father’’ on individual birth certificates, and then write in “second parent,’’ in ink.
Divisions between the governor’s office and state bureaucrats over the language on the forms and details about the extraordinary effort by the Republican governor to prevent routine recording of births to gay parents are contained in state records obtained by the Globe this month.