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I can not think of ANY game that we have played where the guy with the most votes got lynched at a deadline. Doesn't mean we haven't done it only that I can't think of one. Thus I find it interesting that the pair of you shared the same assumption regarding how the deadline would go down when your assumption was contrary not only to the most recent iteration but to all games of this ilk that I can easily recall.triggercut wrote:Remus, why are you assuming and finding interest as regards players in this game who didn't play in whatever game you're referring to?Remus West wrote:Yeah, a quick read through looking at bb2112's posts showed me nothing of the sort so the question remains. I do find it interesting that people thought we went with the player who had the most votes. I can not remember playing that way before and (obviously) assumed we would simply miss out on our lynch attempt. Either way though my vote stands.pr0ner wrote:I can't find anywhere that says this explicitly, but I would assume it to be true.Remus West wrote:I'm pretty sure that somewhere it says if we do not reach majority by the deadline then we go to night with no lynch.
Was there any game before Lassr's that had a deadline like this? I know Lassr's did - and my assumption was that it would work like Lassr's in terms of the game going to night when the deadline is hit - but if that was the first game with that rule then that might change my assessment of the reasonableness of that assumption.Remus West wrote:I can not think of ANY game that we have played where the guy with the most votes got lynched at a deadline. Doesn't mean we haven't done it only that I can't think of one. Thus I find it interesting that the pair of you shared the same assumption regarding how the deadline would go down when your assumption was contrary not only to the most recent iteration but to all games of this ilk that I can easily recall.
There have been other deadline games.El Guapo wrote:Was there any game before Lassr's that had a deadline like this? I know Lassr's did - and my assumption was that it would work like Lassr's in terms of the game going to night when the deadline is hit - but if that was the first game with that rule then that might change my assessment of the reasonableness of that assumption.Remus West wrote:I can not think of ANY game that we have played where the guy with the most votes got lynched at a deadline. Doesn't mean we haven't done it only that I can't think of one. Thus I find it interesting that the pair of you shared the same assumption regarding how the deadline would go down when your assumption was contrary not only to the most recent iteration but to all games of this ilk that I can easily recall.
Yes, votes are in order.Remus West wrote: bb2112 - are you listing the voters on a player in the order they voted for them? It looks to me like you are but I don't want to go back and check unless I have to.
I thought he came out and claimed a red shirt role... Which kinda suggests you aren't a red shirt.Remus West wrote:I am really curious as to why Q still likes his tru1cy vote. tru1cy pretty much came out and claimed a protector role.
) on vote protesting with low null explanation/play. But it's a prerogative and it seems to continue to work fairly well for self preservation.By "the way the voting has gone against him" are you referring to the whole Yoda debate? Or is there something else about the voting that you find suspicious?Remus West wrote:Keep voting Scoop - who I think is a Rebel (and not for the outburst but for the way the voting has gone against him)
I must say, I missed that.Remus West wrote:I am really curious as to why Q still likes his tru1cy vote. tru1cy pretty much came out and claimed a protector role.
My Ragnarök game had a deadline AND a forced lynch. - However, it was a very rare exception, from my recollection.Remus West wrote:There have been other deadline games.El Guapo wrote:Was there any game before Lassr's that had a deadline like this? I know Lassr's did - and my assumption was that it would work like Lassr's in terms of the game going to night when the deadline is hit - but if that was the first game with that rule then that might change my assessment of the reasonableness of that assumption.Remus West wrote:I can not think of ANY game that we have played where the guy with the most votes got lynched at a deadline. Doesn't mean we haven't done it only that I can't think of one. Thus I find it interesting that the pair of you shared the same assumption regarding how the deadline would go down when your assumption was contrary not only to the most recent iteration but to all games of this ilk that I can easily recall.
Ragnarök Rules wrote:A majority vote will close voting.
If the Day ends without a majority reached, the player with the most votes against them will be the winner
If the Day ends in a tie, the player that reached, and held their vote count first will be the winner
Majority, plurality, first to tie.
He said something along the lines of he served only to protect the Emperor. It was really blatant.Unagi wrote:I must say, I missed that.Remus West wrote:I am really curious as to why Q still likes his tru1cy vote. tru1cy pretty much came out and claimed a protector role.
Then I must remark - why on earth would you want to point that out? (unless I missed something so obvious there is no shame in pointing it out)
You realize the grunts are the emperor's royal guard right? He could simply be claiming a civilian role.stessier wrote:He said something along the lines of he served only to protect the Emperor. It was really blatant.Unagi wrote:I must say, I missed that.Remus West wrote:I am really curious as to why Q still likes his tru1cy vote. tru1cy pretty much came out and claimed a protector role.
Then I must remark - why on earth would you want to point that out? (unless I missed something so obvious there is no shame in pointing it out)
I noticed that, but that reads (assuming it's not just flavor) to be more like he's claiming to be a Royal Guard (aka a normal):stessier wrote:He said something along the lines of he served only to protect the Emperor. It was really blatant.Unagi wrote:I must say, I missed that.Remus West wrote:I am really curious as to why Q still likes his tru1cy vote. tru1cy pretty much came out and claimed a protector role.
Then I must remark - why on earth would you want to point that out? (unless I missed something so obvious there is no shame in pointing it out)
Those are the guys whose only job is to protect the emperor.Emperor’s Royal Guard: You guys all look really cool. Just don’t kill the Emperor. That would be tacky and it will be really difficult to acquire future employment with that on your resume. “Yeah, we did a great job protecting the old guy right up until we all got together, took out our blasters, and blasted the crap out of the geezer.” Not cool. However, not to fret too much, you will still win if the Emperor is dead as long as you eliminate the rebel menace. If you can’t even manage to do that, then don’t worry about future employment. Everyone else is just collateral damage, therefore, who cares.
I could care less about the tiny window that Yoda had to cast his vote in. I do not agree with triggercut that Yoda would have already asked about presetting his order but even if I did that would just make Scoop look even more like a Rebel. What I am talking about is the way the voting against him stalled out. It will be very hard to get to 11 votes on anyone that is Rebel today since the other Rebels will likely not be very interested in helping that process. Seems we got close on Scoop and folks bailed. Seems to me that screams Scoop is a Rebel. It also means if he comes up Rebel the folks who jumped ship become VERY interesting.El Guapo wrote:By "the way the voting has gone against him" are you referring to the whole Yoda debate? Or is there something else about the voting that you find suspicious?Remus West wrote:Keep voting Scoop - who I think is a Rebel (and not for the outburst but for the way the voting has gone against him)
edit: fixing broken quote tags.
Well, I thought it screamed it (thus I wasn't worried about pointing it out) but LordMortis took it a different way entirely. Either way, I don't mind putting it out there because if LordMortis was right then I haven't exposed anything and if I am right then I haven't exposed anyone who had not already done it to himself.Unagi wrote:I must say, I missed that.Remus West wrote:I am really curious as to why Q still likes his tru1cy vote. tru1cy pretty much came out and claimed a protector role.
Then I must remark - why on earth would you want to point that out? (unless I missed something so obvious there is no shame in pointing it out)
except if I was the wolf, and tru1cy the protector....; then you would have just handed him to me.... right? Cause, like I said, I missed it as a Protector Hint.Remus West wrote:Well, I thought it screamed it (thus I wasn't worried about pointing it out) but LordMortis took it a different way entirely. Either way, I don't mind putting it out there because if LordMortis was right then I haven't exposed anything and if I am right then I haven't exposed anyone who had not already done it to himself.Unagi wrote:I must say, I missed that.Remus West wrote:I am really curious as to why Q still likes his tru1cy vote. tru1cy pretty much came out and claimed a protector role.
Then I must remark - why on earth would you want to point that out? (unless I missed something so obvious there is no shame in pointing it out)
Interesting that you mention Thrawn in the same sentence you proclaim there are no other "protector" roles for the Empire. Why did you ignore reading Thrawn's role?El Guapo wrote:The only other "protector" role for the imperials is Rukh (I believe), and thematically at least he's about protecting Thrawn rather than the Emperor.
Sure, except I read it as exceptionally blatant so wasn't worried about it until you admitted to being to thick to have seen it.Unagi wrote:except if I was the wolf, and tru1cy the protector....; then you would have just handed him to me.... right? Cause, like I said, I missed it as a Protector Hint.Remus West wrote:Well, I thought it screamed it (thus I wasn't worried about pointing it out) but LordMortis took it a different way entirely. Either way, I don't mind putting it out there because if LordMortis was right then I haven't exposed anything and if I am right then I haven't exposed anyone who had not already done it to himself.Unagi wrote:I must say, I missed that.Remus West wrote:I am really curious as to why Q still likes his tru1cy vote. tru1cy pretty much came out and claimed a protector role.
Then I must remark - why on earth would you want to point that out? (unless I missed something so obvious there is no shame in pointing it out)
That's my thought as well. Only I also find it interesting that you dropped the ball on Tru1cy's claim.Remus West wrote:I could care less about the tiny window that Yoda had to cast his vote in. I do not agree with triggercut that Yoda would have already asked about presetting his order but even if I did that would just make Scoop look even more like a Rebel. What I am talking about is the way the voting against him stalled out. It will be very hard to get to 11 votes on anyone that is Rebel today since the other Rebels will likely not be very interested in helping that process. Seems we got close on Scoop and folks bailed. Seems to me that screams Scoop is a Rebel. It also means if he comes up Rebel the folks who jumped ship become VERY interesting.
Yeah, I just came back to note this. It's less that I didn't read it then I read it a week or two ago (whenever the game started). So I guess this reveals that I'm not Thrawn, for what that's worth (or a Thrawn who doesn't understand what he can doRemus West wrote:Interesting that you mention Thrawn in the same sentence you proclaim there are no other "protector" roles for the Empire. Why did you ignore reading Thrawn's role?El Guapo wrote:The only other "protector" role for the imperials is Rukh (I believe), and thematically at least he's about protecting Thrawn rather than the Emperor.
). I think I got it mixed up because Rukh is, well, a bodyguard whereas Thrawn is an admiral, so I'd think that Rukh would be the straight protector.Unagi wrote:too thick.
One time during the game he can protect someone at night. If he guesses right and he protects that person from a rebel attack, he gets a free scan the next day. He will be told only loyal or rebel. If the scan turns out to be a rebel, then he can kill the rebel during the day. This attack will reveal his identity.
We won that time.Unagi wrote:There is also the bb2112oba Fett role...
(I am pretty sure this role was born out of a dream of bb2112's, from his epic Protection of Theohall... )
One time during the game he can protect someone at night. If he guesses right and he protects that person from a rebel attack, he gets a free scan the next day. He will be told only loyal or rebel. If the scan turns out to be a rebel, then he can kill the rebel during the day. This attack will reveal his identity.
Remuscide strikes again.Remus West wrote:I could care less about the tiny window that Yoda had to cast his vote in. I do not agree with triggercut that Yoda would have already asked about presetting his order but even if I did that would just make Scoop look even more like a Rebel. What I am talking about is the way the voting against him stalled out. It will be very hard to get to 11 votes on anyone that is Rebel today since the other Rebels will likely not be very interested in helping that process. Seems we got close on Scoop and folks bailed. Seems to me that screams Scoop is a Rebel. It also means if he comes up Rebel the folks who jumped ship become VERY interesting.El Guapo wrote:By "the way the voting has gone against him" are you referring to the whole Yoda debate? Or is there something else about the voting that you find suspicious?Remus West wrote:Keep voting Scoop - who I think is a Rebel (and not for the outburst but for the way the voting has gone against him)
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Perhaps because CR is a rebel so the rebels aren't too excited to jump on that train. Of course the fact that we only have 8 votes when there are at least 12 imperials and we ought to get a couple rebels on there just for cover makes it seem like we should be able to get the votes on CR anyway. If anything, having a hard time getting the votes makes me even more suspicious of CR. I imagine a miss would be much easier.Newcastle wrote: SO i am puzzled why so few of us are willing to run him {CR} up a flagpole when the train on scoop is really fluff and a lark at best. What am i missing here? Maybe there was no over vote on scoop, via the rebels, because those roles didnt exist...as CR slipped? Has that crossed anyones mind?
Scoop *flew* to N-1. He didn't prove tough to lynch, there's just no good justification for lynching him.stessier wrote:I really wish I had read the thread in order. Instead I started with what had been posted since I read this morning, then went back and caught up, so I had the whole "chaos issue" interpreted before reading it for myself. I see what Trig is saying, but trying to put myself in the moment I find Chaos' quote harmless.
Scoop is a better choice. He's already said he's not a Special, so no threat in outing anyone. And he's proving tough to lynch. Move your votes to Scoop.
Yeah, but your instincts in this game are awful. Just so you know.Remus West wrote:The run up on Scoop was pretty much a lark. The stall out and bail to what seemed to be any other remotely interesting target is what convinced me.
pretty much thursday was jacked up....my post of noticign the off times...should be about 7 -10 posts later. i dont think it affects following the game...since i was following the game during that period. Nothing eaerthshattering as far as i can tell. The main thing is that the train zoomed up on scoop...and then he unleashed darth bieber which gave the train super turbo boosts.stessier wrote:I really wish I had read the thread in order. Instead I started with what had been posted since I read this morning, then went back and caught up, so I had the whole "chaos issue" interpreted before reading it for myself. I see what Trig is saying, but trying to put myself in the moment I find Chaos' quote harmless.
Scoop is a better choice. He's already said he's not a Special, so no threat in outing anyone. And he's proving tough to lynch. Move your votes to Scoop.