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Which subreddits?waitingtoconnect wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:54 pm Reddit is stomping on anti Elon commentary. Be cautious what you post. This is no longer a free country,
Reddit has temporarily banned the subreddit r/WhitePeopleTwitter after Elon Musk complained about the community. The subreddit is currently inaccessible with a message from Reddit stating that the community has been banned for 72 hours due to “a prevalence of violent content.”
I suppose that's his free speech absolutist approach when it's not his public square saying what he approves of. You can only threaten people he approves of threatening.Isgrimnur wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 6:06 pm Reddit temporarily bans r/WhitePeopleTwitter after Elon Musk claimed it had ‘broken the law’
Reddit has temporarily banned the subreddit r/WhitePeopleTwitter after Elon Musk complained about the community. The subreddit is currently inaccessible with a message from Reddit stating that the community has been banned for 72 hours due to “a prevalence of violent content.”
interim US Attorney Ed Martin offered his assistance in “protecting the DOGE work” from threats. “We will not tolerate threats against DOGE workers or law-breaking by the disgruntled,” he wrote on X Monday. “Any threats, confrontations, or any actions in any way that impact their work may break numerous laws,”
Tesla sales drop by double digits in CALawBeefaroni wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:31 pm Also, I should note that I'm not telling people what to drive, just what the plus/minus is. Driving or not driving one single Tesla won't change anything any more than one single vote will. But in aggregate, there is significant impact.
Down by 11.7% (~27,000 vehicles) between 2023-24 -- and that's before Leon went full fascist. I imagine sales will crater further in '25.Tesla’s sales have dropped by double digits in California, the most important EV market in the US, all while the rest of the EV market is growing.
California is the biggest market for electric vehicles in the US and by a wide margin. In fact, if it wasn’t for California, the US would be even further lagging behind the rest of the world in EV adoption.
For years, Tesla has been dominating the market.
While its market shares of the California EV market has been going down with competition, Tesla was still able grow its volumes in California as EV adoption is taking a hold of the market.
Now, it’s not the case anymore.
I realized that while the above applies to me I can also divest myself of all Tesla stock. Which I just did. The only Tesla stock I own is tied up in the S&P 500 index ETF, but I'm not letting go of that.Blackhawk wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:13 pm How many people can afford to park a functional vehicle and grab a new one just to make a political stand? We're talking about new cars here, not skipping Chic-fil-A.
edited to make myself more clear.raydude wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:54 amI realized that while the above applies to me (in the sense that I can't just pick up a new car when I want to make a statement) I can instead divest myself of all Tesla stock. Which I just did. The only Tesla stock I own is tied up in the S&P 500 index ETF, but I'm not letting go of that.Blackhawk wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:13 pm How many people can afford to park a functional vehicle and grab a new one just to make a political stand? We're talking about new cars here, not skipping Chic-fil-A.
Sell it, don't park it. And Teslas are largely aspirational purchases. This is an existential thing.Blackhawk wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:13 pm How many people can afford to park a functional vehicle and grab a new one just to make a political stand? We're talking about new cars here, not skipping Chic-fil-A.
That's definitve action! You may even be rewarded, lots of downside bets on TSLA right now.raydude wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:54 amedited to make myself more clear.raydude wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:54 amI realized that while the above applies to me (in the sense that I can't just pick up a new car when I want to make a statement) I can instead divest myself of all Tesla stock. Which I just did. The only Tesla stock I own is tied up in the S&P 500 index ETF, but I'm not letting go of that.Blackhawk wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:13 pm How many people can afford to park a functional vehicle and grab a new one just to make a political stand? We're talking about new cars here, not skipping Chic-fil-A.
I was just chastised for my concern over such things. (although my concern is TSLA is different then my concern NVDA. One is my desire to not support Nazi fascism. The other is my desire to mitigate myself from the inevitable collapse of the AI house of cards. Pragmatically, both would see me protect myself from valuations that are out of control and result in out of control % of my portfolio going along for the ride)LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:21 am And yes, I probably own TSLA in index funds. I've been working to unload the broadest ones to reduce exposure in TSLA and NVDA.
Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency team has been working at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, where they have gotten access to payment and contracting systems, Anna Wilde Mathews and Liz Essley Whyte of Wall Street Journal report, citing people familiar with the matter. The DOGE representatives have been on site at the agency’s offices this week, looking at the systems’ technology to try to uncover consider fraud or waste, sources told the Journal. DOGE representatives are also examining CMS’s organizational design and how it is staffed, the people added.
I'm really really hoping the DOGs aren't going line by line and trying to determine whether a given payment request is fraud. I don't think anything good will come out of letting a 19-24 year old determine that. Or Musk for that matter.Smoove_B wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 3:07 pm Now he's in the Medicare and Medicaid system. I do not understand how this continues, other than the constant refrain of "But a dog can't play basketball!" repeating in my mind.
Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency team has been working at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, where they have gotten access to payment and contracting systems, Anna Wilde Mathews and Liz Essley Whyte of Wall Street Journal report, citing people familiar with the matter. The DOGE representatives have been on site at the agency’s offices this week, looking at the systems’ technology to try to uncover consider fraud or waste, sources told the Journal. DOGE representatives are also examining CMS’s organizational design and how it is staffed, the people added.
It remains silly to think an S&P 500 ETF would exclude an S&P 500 stock.LordMortis wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 12:12 pmI was just chastised for my concern over such things. (although my concern is TSLA is different then my concern NVDA. One is my desire to not support Nazi fascism. The other is my desire to mitigate myself from the inevitable collapse of the AI house of cards. Pragmatically, both would see me protect myself from valuations that are out of control and result in out of control % of my portfolio going along for the ride)LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:21 am And yes, I probably own TSLA in index funds. I've been working to unload the broadest ones to reduce exposure in TSLA and NVDA.
Tut-tut. Remember, it's not a coup until Trump is President God-King for Life. Until then it's just some sort of series of unfortunate events or something.Holman wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 3:38 pm So they're just jumping from agency to agency, snooping (and presumably copying) data? They definitely aren't doing analysis or even understanding what they're looking at, because none of these dorks have the training or have had the time to do anything but speed-scroll through it.
This is all covering up something else. They're making of show of "finding" things, but their findings are predetermined: a fig-leaf of an excuse to shut programs down either for the sheer love of chaos or to justify eventual privatization.
File under "coup."
Willful violation of HIPAA PHI. Would cost anyone else $10K per record in fines.raydude wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 3:23 pmI'm really really hoping the DOGs aren't going line by line and trying to determine whether a given payment request is fraud. I don't think anything good will come out of letting a 19-24 year old determine that. Or Musk for that matter.Smoove_B wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 3:07 pm Now he's in the Medicare and Medicaid system. I do not understand how this continues, other than the constant refrain of "But a dog can't play basketball!" repeating in my mind.
Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency team has been working at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, where they have gotten access to payment and contracting systems, Anna Wilde Mathews and Liz Essley Whyte of Wall Street Journal report, citing people familiar with the matter. The DOGE representatives have been on site at the agency’s offices this week, looking at the systems’ technology to try to uncover consider fraud or waste, sources told the Journal. DOGE representatives are also examining CMS’s organizational design and how it is staffed, the people added.
And from earlier today eRALawBeefaroni wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 4:49 pm Willful violation of HIPAA PHI. Would cost anyone else $10K per record in fines.
Highly confidential research data. Can't imagine what someone like Musk would want with all that information. He's committing the biggest heist ever perpetrated and everyone is standing around asking if he can do it -or- shrugging their shoulders.NEW from inside NIH: I am hearing that a “young” DOGE staffer now has access to eRA, the software system used to track/administer all NIH grants.
I figured some of it was related to giant hard on he probably has thinking about controlling the US Treasury, sure. But all that information? I can only imagine how much it's worth. He doesn't need money, but I'm sure he'd love to trade it for power and access. To add more to the list of the ways were are in trouble:Blackhawk wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 5:53 pm I do wonder if he's doing entirely for his own purposes, or if he's siphoning it off for others. You've got to admit - that would be a master blow for a nation like China or Russia.
Holman wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:29 pm I wonder when the split between Trump and Musk will come. How much longer can Trump stomach Musk getting all the attention and being treated as the most powerful player in Washington?
That depends on whether Trump has orders from Putin to let him do it. Given that Tulsi is DNI, I have to imagine that Putin is the one really in charge.Max Peck wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:43 pm
Musk has the money for now, but Trump has the guys with the guns, and that's always where real power lies in the end. If they do have a serious falling out, what's to stop Trump from issuing a national security EO that nationalizes SpaceX, Tesla and Xitter and freezes all of Musk's assets before swallowing them up into the new sovereign wealth fund? Just to be safe, he could even ship him off to Gitmo to keep him from stirring up trouble.
Many years from now, historians will be writing about how the United States was overthrown by Russia simply because an idiot was elected by a bunch of idiots and then proceeded to appoint other idiots in charge.gbasden wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 8:28 pmThat depends on whether Trump has orders from Putin to let him do it. Given that Tulsi is DNI, I have to imagine that Putin is the one really in charge.Max Peck wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:43 pm
Musk has the money for now, but Trump has the guys with the guns, and that's always where real power lies in the end. If they do have a serious falling out, what's to stop Trump from issuing a national security EO that nationalizes SpaceX, Tesla and Xitter and freezes all of Musk's assets before swallowing them up into the new sovereign wealth fund? Just to be safe, he could even ship him off to Gitmo to keep him from stirring up trouble.
We all know it’s going to happen. My fear is that it will happen at the point of no return for Musk’s invasion of various institutions. After he’s onboarded so much that stopping leaves things in a far worse state than when he started.Holman wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:29 pm I wonder when the split between Trump and Musk will come. How much longer can Trump stomach Musk getting all the attention and being treated as the most powerful player in Washington?.
Yeah, he who controls the computers controls the government, and when Musk moves along nobody gets access without his say-so.Smoove_B wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 3:49 pm Exactly! Think about the training federal workers likely undergo regarding electronic safety - passwords, not plugging in USB drives, not clicking on suspicious emails or downloading attachments. And now Musk and his team are just randomly bouncing around various agencies, connecting their hardware and "scraping" data. I have no doubt they're leaving things in the system to allow them future remote access.
I get that Chuck Schumer and the gang are "filing lawsuits" and sending strongly worded letters. Sure, they're demanding Elon appears in Congress for a hearing (and being denied). Meanwhile we're witnessing what is likely the biggest "computer hack" ever perpetrated and they're doing it out in the open.
Remember in early January when everyone was whipped up into a frenzy about TikTok stealing data from your phones? Now Elon has access to way more information than the Chinese presumably ever did and we're doing fuck all about it.
In the US, Tesla sales are down by double-digits in CA, by far the largest EV market.
Early car sales data for January is starting to arrive from countries across the pond, and they paint an alarming picture for Tesla. Sales are crashing in France, Germany, and the UK—all affluent countries that are key markets for Tesla's electric vehicles. Coming on the heels of a large financial miss, it's just one more problem for the automaker.
Tesla sales dropped around 13 percent across Europe in 2024, but so far this year, the scale of the problem is far greater. In France, sales of new Teslas fell by 63 percent, while total car sales in the country fell by just 6 percent, with EV sales dropping just half a percent.
Germany was already looking like lost ground for Tesla—its 41 percent drop in 2024 accounted for most of Tesla's lost sales across Europe. That must make the 59 percent drop in German Tesla sales recorded during January even more painful on the profit and loss statements.
Across the Channel, the British auto industry just released its sales data for January. Here, Tesla sales fell less precipitously—just 12 percent. However, battery EV sales were 35 percent higher in the UK in January 2025 than in January 2024. The cake is growing, but Tesla is getting to eat less and less of it.
If he gets an AI into run the federal government payment, research and other key systems he will likely become the worlds first trillionare. And he will run the country like a Bond villain.hepcat wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 9:50 pmWe all know it’s going to happen. My fear is that it will happen at the point of no return for Musk’s invasion of various institutions. After he’s onboarded so much that stopping leaves things in a far worse state than when he started.Holman wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:29 pm I wonder when the split between Trump and Musk will come. How much longer can Trump stomach Musk getting all the attention and being treated as the most powerful player in Washington?.
