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malchior wrote:nursing home nightmare stuff

malchior wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:56 pm Yeah at this point I'm not going to just keep watching. I plan to go to a town hall sometime and ask him questions to his face about this. That this isn't a huge scandal is ridiculous. This state is a fucking travesty.

Pyperkub wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:31 pm

em2nought wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 6:17 pm

malchior wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:39 pm It is insane what they believe *in their bones*. It's complete fantasy land nonsense. It really shows how dangerous groupthink can be and how it can be weaponized. And I agree it can't be fixed. At least not easily. How do you de-program 30% of the population? It took decades to get here. We just have to somehow make it through this alive.

Very few seem to believe(groupthink) the level of evil which I believe your side's leadership is capable of so far. I'm sure that in the end your side will find it easier to just exterminate us all, and then spout some sort of justification for it.

Obviously, I see your "side" as winning in the "end".

120k dead from an incompetent response (it's a hoax, we've stopped it, we have only 1 case, China, here's all our PPE because you are doing such a great job, etc.) seems to indicate that you need to look in the mirror first.

RunningMn9 wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:14 pm

malchior wrote:nursing home nightmare stuff

I believe it. The nursing home my MIL is on lost more than 20% of their residents.

Montag wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:26 am

RunningMn9 wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:14 pm

malchior wrote:nursing home nightmare stuff

I believe it. The nursing home my MIL is on lost more than 20% of their residents.

Which city is this?

Paingod wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:57 am

Pyperkub wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:31 pm

em2nought wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 6:17 pm

malchior wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:39 pm It is insane what they believe *in their bones*. It's complete fantasy land nonsense. It really shows how dangerous groupthink can be and how it can be weaponized. And I agree it can't be fixed. At least not easily. How do you de-program 30% of the population? It took decades to get here. We just have to somehow make it through this alive.

Very few seem to believe(groupthink) the level of evil which I believe your side's leadership is capable of so far. I'm sure that in the end your side will find it easier to just exterminate us all, and then spout some sort of justification for it.

Obviously, I see your "side" as winning in the "end".

120k dead from an incompetent response (it's a hoax, we've stopped it, we have only 1 case, China, here's all our PPE because you are doing such a great job, etc.) seems to indicate that you need to look in the mirror first.

Are you sure he's still on the same side he used to be on? He's talking like a Democrat there.

Very few seem to believe the level of evil which I believe your side's leadership is capable of so far.

That's exactly what we've been saying about the GOP. I also can't recall any "evil" coming from the blue side in recent memory, unless we're talking about trying to save lives by closing avenues of transmission (businesses and gatherings), mandating masks, and encouraging distancing. Fucking sadistic, that move is.

Holman wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:46 am put Fox viewers into concentration camps.

“It really does feel like the U.S. has given up.” -European scientist.

Montag wrote:Which city is this?

LordMortis wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:43 amAs you said before I'm wondering what hospital occupancy is looking like as we are now nearly a week into this upward trend at the national level.

LordMortis wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:43 am seven day moving average is now up to 24k yesterday with 27000 new cases reported and the top six states aren't looking so great

California +3,787
Texas +3,357
Florida +3,207
Arizona +2,519
North Carolina +1,757
South Carolina +992

+15,619

Death still aren't trending up, so there's that at least for now.

As you said before I'm wondering what hospital occupancy is looking like as we are now nearly a week into this upward trend at the national level.

Smoove_B wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:18 am

“It really does feel like the U.S. has given up.” -European scientist.

Smoove_B wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:18 am https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1273973204047069184

“It really does feel like the U.S. has given up.” -European scientist.

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:27 am

Smoove_B wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:18 am https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1273973204047069184

“It really does feel like the U.S. has given up.” -European scientist.

What's crazy to me is that the population density of the EU is more than 3x that in the US; shouldn't that make it even harder to control something like the Coronavirus? And yet, here we are.

Holman wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:05 am

LordMortis wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:43 am seven day moving average is now up to 24k yesterday with 27000 new cases reported and the top six states aren't looking so great

California +3,787
Texas +3,357
Florida +3,207
Arizona +2,519
North Carolina +1,757
South Carolina +992

+15,619

Death still aren't trending up, so there's that at least for now.

As you said before I'm wondering what hospital occupancy is looking like as we are now nearly a week into this upward trend at the national level.

And you have to wonder whether some of those numbers have been cooked.

Tony Fauci has nothing to do with NFL Football. They are planning a very safe and controlled opening. However, if they don’t stand for our National Anthem and our Great American Flag, I won’t be watching!!!

Smoove_B wrote:



Now, if only we could get another data point. Like a large (15k+ people) indoor event where people are in close contact for hours, yelling and screaming with little to no mask use. Sure, it's going to take another 10+ days to get results, but maybe by early July we'll have an excellent example of another scenario that presents different risks. That would be helpful.

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:27 am

Smoove_B wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:18 am https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1273973204047069184

“It really does feel like the U.S. has given up.” -European scientist.

What's crazy to me is that the population density of the EU is more than 3x that in the US; shouldn't that make it even harder to control something like the Coronavirus? And yet, here we are.

Smoove_B wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 12:02 pm The governor of Texas is now blaming the 20 somethings for the increase cases, which is on-brand.

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:27 am

Smoove_B wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:18 am https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1273973204047069184

“It really does feel like the U.S. has given up.” -European scientist.

What's crazy to me is that the population density of the EU is more than 3x that in the US; shouldn't that make it even harder to control something like the Coronavirus? And yet, here we are.

Smoove_B wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 12:02 pm Early data suggesting the protests related to George Floyd's murder have not resulted in a spike in cases. This is good news as it more or less supports the idea that outdoor activity (generally) is lower risk - particularly when people are wearing masks.

Now, if only we could get another data point. Like a large (15k+ people) indoor event where people are in close contact for hours, yelling and screaming with little to no mask use. Sure, it's going to take another 10+ days to get results, but maybe by early July we'll have an excellent example of another scenario that presents different risks. That would be helpful.

LawBeefaroni wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:29 am

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:27 am

Smoove_B wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:18 am https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1273973204047069184

“It really does feel like the U.S. has given up.” -European scientist.

What's crazy to me is that the population density of the EU is more than 3x that in the US; shouldn't that make it even harder to control something like the Coronavirus? And yet, here we are.

The density of the population yes, the density of the populace, no.

raydude wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 12:55 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:29 am

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:27 am

Smoove_B wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:18 am https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1273973204047069184

“It really does feel like the U.S. has given up.” -European scientist.

What's crazy to me is that the population density of the EU is more than 3x that in the US; shouldn't that make it even harder to control something like the Coronavirus? And yet, here we are.

The density of the population yes, the density of the populace, no.

This could be an angle to exploit. Push the narrative that the "US is surrendering to the virus" while "France and Europe have not surrendered". Maybe that will get the MAGA hats to wear masks, just to show those Euros who's the non-surrenderer.

LordMortis wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 2:38 pmHeh, he could have co-opted mask wearing in April, made millions and claimed all of these mask wearers were showing their support of him. It's good you aren't on his staff.

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (WKRN) – The Tennessee Department of Health has confirmed additional cases of COVID-19 across the state on Friday, June 19, 2020.

The health department reported 1,188 new cases, bringing the state to a total of 34,017 total cases, a 4% day-to-day increase since Thursday. Of the total cases, 33,776 are confirmed and 241 are probable.

The number of new cases reported Friday is a record-high for Tennessee. The previous single-day new cases record was 1,156 on May 1.

Grifman wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 12:37 pm

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:27 am

Smoove_B wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:18 am https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1273973204047069184

“It really does feel like the U.S. has given up.” -European scientist.

What's crazy to me is that the population density of the EU is more than 3x that in the US; shouldn't that make it even harder to control something like the Coronavirus? And yet, here we are.

That's deceptive. We have vast areas with little to no population. We still have a lot of dense urban areas, though with single family housing, it's not as dense.

Whereas the U.S. response to the crisis has at times appeared disconnected from American scientists’ publicly available findings, U.S. researchers’ conclusions informed the actions of foreign governments.

“A large portion of [Germany’s] measures that proved effective was based on studies by leading U.S. research institutes,” said Karl Lauterbach, a Harvard-educated epidemiologist who is a member of the German parliament for the Social Democrats, who are part of the coalition government. Lauterbach advised the German parliament and the government during the pandemic.

Despite its far older population, Germany has confirmed fewer than 9,000 coronavirus-linked deaths, compared with almost 120,000 in the United States. (Germany has about one-fourth of the United States’ population.)

Lauterbach cited in particular the work of Marc Lipsitch, a professor of epidemiology at Harvard University, whose research with colleagues recently said that forms of social distancing may have to remain in place into 2022. Lipsitch’s work, Lauterbach said, helped him to convince German Vice Chancellor Olaf Scholz that the pandemic will be “the new normal” for the time being, and it impacted German officials’ thinking on how long their strategy should be in place.

Paingod wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 2:41 pm

LordMortis wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 2:38 pmHeh, he could have co-opted mask wearing in April, made millions and claimed all of these mask wearers were showing their support of him. It's good you aren't on his staff.

Jeebus, and if they had made it look like two exhaust pipes spewing out rolling coal every time you exhaled, Trump might be a real millionaire.

“I don’t fear anything. If today is the day I die, today is the day I die," said Riniker, 62, who drove to Tulsa from his home in Arkansas earlier this week to attend what he said was his first political rally since Ronald Reagan was running for office. "I'm not paranoid, I'm not afraid."

Riniker brought a homemade mask that his neighbor had given him and said he would wear it "if the need arises," but doubted it would come that.

"I'm not stupid," he said Friday, on the eve of the rally. "I'm not going to jump in a den of snakes and sit in front of someone who is coughing uncontrollably. But I do have a mask just in case."

LordMortis wrote:Looks like TN has COVID case increase envy

https://www.wkrn.com/community/health/c ... tennessee/

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (WKRN) – The Tennessee Department of Health has confirmed additional cases of COVID-19 across the state on Friday, June 19, 2020.

The health department reported 1,188 new cases, bringing the state to a total of 34,017 total cases, a 4% day-to-day increase since Thursday. Of the total cases, 33,776 are confirmed and 241 are probable.

The number of new cases reported Friday is a record-high for Tennessee. The previous single-day new cases record was 1,156 on May 1.

I don't expect to see a decrease in cases for 6/19 come tomorrow.

Zaxxon wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:55 pm It's a disaster.

Had American leaders taken the decisive, early measures that several other nations took when they had exactly the same information the U.S. did, at exactly the same time in their experience of the novel coronavirus, how many of these Covid-19 deaths could have been prevented?

That isn’t a hypothetical question. And the answer that emerges from a direct comparison of the fatalities in and policies of the U.S. and other countries — South Korea, Australia, Germany, and Singapore — indicates that between 70% and 99% of the Americans who died from this pandemic might have been saved by measures demonstrated by others to have been feasible.