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Sure, but then the American people elected a known cartoonish con-artist. Say what you will about "razor thin" but it's still disconcerting.YellowKing wrote: Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:36 pm You start to see how razor thin Trump's victory actually was.
Do you think anyone is arguing otherwise?GreenGoo wrote: Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:41 pmSure, but then the American people elected a known cartoonish con-artist. Say what you will about "razor thin" but it's still disconcerting.YellowKing wrote: Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:36 pm You start to see how razor thin Trump's victory actually was.
If the American people had elected Dracula (who identified himself as a vampire as part of his campaigning) by a "razor thin" margin, there would still be cause for alarm.
Be careful about Stein voters rejecting Trump as a given. Dissonance is a powerful thing.
Kinda, yeah.ImLawBoy wrote: Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:51 pmDo you think anyone is arguing otherwise?GreenGoo wrote: Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:41 pmSure, but then the American people elected a known cartoonish con-artist. Say what you will about "razor thin" but it's still disconcerting.YellowKing wrote: Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:36 pm You start to see how razor thin Trump's victory actually was.
If the American people had elected Dracula (who identified himself as a vampire as part of his campaigning) by a "razor thin" margin, there would still be cause for alarm.
Ok.ImLawBoy wrote: Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:10 pm It's possible to both be optimistic but to still think there is cause for alarm.
Do what now? Afghanistan, Syria....maybe Yemen (not sure how many troops we have there, but it's definitely "hot")
Correction. Any wars still in the news.Carpet_pissr wrote:Do what now? Afghanistan, Syria....maybe Yemen (not sure how many troops we have there, but it's definitely "hot")
Seriously? I mean I know it’s Trump but most candidates prefer not to have embarrassing news about them come out during an election campaign.Carpet_pissr wrote: Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:53 pm One thing I don’t get is how paying off mistresses “influences an erec...election”?
That seems to be the only tie to Trump, here, correct? That he paid off two women to keep quiet. Something he would have done as candidate Trump, or plain ol’ shitbag citizen Trump.
If that’s the case, I really don’t get all the excitement, because that seems to be some weak ass sauce to me.
I guess you don’t see the large number of Republican leaders who have announced leaving the party? Seriously, you expect us to be worried about publicity seeking video makers? Funny how the polls and party registrations don’t reflect this massive waveem2nought wrote: Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:38 pmI guess you folks don't see the multiple #WalkAway videos getting posted daily that I do.Captain Caveman wrote: Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:48 am Mr. Fed writing in the NY Times today. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/22/opin ... eller.html
Especially if Democrats manage the blue wave of their dreams in the midtermsMaybe those are Russian bots? LMAO
Begin rant. Afghanistan has been making prominent news for the past week as the war there is not going well at all. The government lost a strategic provincial capital for five days and the Taliban have taken most of the province. Today mortar rounds fell on Kabul while the president gave an outdoor speech. An American soldier died in Iraq two days ago (helicopter crash), so those advisors aren't just sitting around their bases. The public doesn't notice or care beyond the reflexive "thank you for your service."YellowKing wrote: Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:33 pmCorrection. Any wars still in the news.Carpet_pissr wrote:Do what now? Afghanistan, Syria....maybe Yemen (not sure how many troops we have there, but it's definitely "hot")
A juror who participated in the trial of President Donald Trump's former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, said just one holdout prevented the jury from convicting Manafort on all of the 18 federal charges he faced.
In a Fox News interview on Wednesday, Paula Duncan, a self-described Trump supporter, said the unidentified juror was not convinced that Manafort was guilty of all 18 criminal charges he faced.
"We all tried to convince her to look at the paper trail, we laid it out in front of her again and again," Duncan said during an interview with Fox News host Shannon Bream.
Manafort was ultimately convicted on eight counts on five counts of tax fraud, two counts of bank fraud, and one count of failure to report a foreign bank account. The judge declared a mistrial on the remaining 10 counts.
Duncan claimed that the holdout juror is the one who prompted them to send a note to Judge T.S. Ellis asking for an explanation of the term, "reasonable doubt."
"Most of us did not want that question out there ... we felt a little foolish," Duncan said.
"The evidence was overwhelming," Duncan said. "I did not want Paul Manafort to be guilty, but he was, and no one is above the law. So it was our obligation to look through all of the evidence."
Trump's latest attempt came in a friendly taped interview with Fox News, which was conducted on Wednesday but aired a day later. Trump sought to put distance between himself and his former lawyer Michael Cohen, who admitted to campaign finance crimes in federal court on Tuesday and implicated the President by saying he'd directed the action.
And he sharply decried those who testify against former confidants to ease legal troubles, bemoaning the longstanding practice.
"It's called flipping and it almost ought to be illegal," Trump said in the interview, adding he's witnessed similar scenarios over his decades in public life. "I know all about flipping, 30, 40 years I have been watching flippers. Everything is wonderful and then they get 10 years in jail and they flip on whoever the next highest one is or as high as you can go."
I....I.....I have no words. Its like we elected a severely brain damaged Tony Soprano.Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:27 am CNN
Trump's latest attempt came in a friendly taped interview with Fox News, which was conducted on Wednesday but aired a day later. Trump sought to put distance between himself and his former lawyer Michael Cohen, who admitted to campaign finance crimes in federal court on Tuesday and implicated the President by saying he'd directed the action.
And he sharply decried those who testify against former confidants to ease legal troubles, bemoaning the longstanding practice.
"It's called flipping and it almost ought to be illegal," Trump said in the interview, adding he's witnessed similar scenarios over his decades in public life. "I know all about flipping, 30, 40 years I have been watching flippers. Everything is wonderful and then they get 10 years in jail and they flip on whoever the next highest one is or as high as you can go."
I'll take a stab at this...Carpet_pissr wrote: Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:53 pm One thing I don’t get is how paying off mistresses “influences an erec...election”?
That seems to be the only tie to Trump, here, correct? That he paid off two women to keep quiet. Something he would have done as candidate Trump, or plain ol’ shitbag citizen Trump.
If that’s the case, I really don’t get all the excitement, because that seems to be some weak ass sauce to me.
I think what Senators say publicly and what they say behind closed doors are two different things. I was reading a great article the other day about the Democrats' contingency plans should Trump pull a Saturday Night Massacre to get rid of Mueller. Schumer has been working the aisles hard and there are plenty of GOP Senators on board to keep the investigation going even if Trump should do the unthinkable.Zaxxon wrote:I mean, Lindsay Graham is today opining on how it'd be fine if Trump fired Sessions. Not exactly promising as far as GOP congresscritters treating this as cut and dry.
Nope. Yet another reason to give Democrats the House... as soon as they have subpoena power they can get his tax returns and release them.
They got an extension until October for this year's taxes. The presumption is that they will be released then, but I'm sure Trump et al. will find an excuse to withhold them.
Well he should be happy to learn that it almost is illegal.Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:27 am CNN
Trump's latest attempt came in a friendly taped interview with Fox News, which was conducted on Wednesday but aired a day later. Trump sought to put distance between himself and his former lawyer Michael Cohen, who admitted to campaign finance crimes in federal court on Tuesday and implicated the President by saying he'd directed the action.
And he sharply decried those who testify against former confidants to ease legal troubles, bemoaning the longstanding practice.
"It's called flipping and it almost ought to be illegal," Trump said in the interview, adding he's witnessed similar scenarios over his decades in public life. "I know all about flipping, 30, 40 years I have been watching flippers. Everything is wonderful and then they get 10 years in jail and they flip on whoever the next highest one is or as high as you can go."
There are not enoughShe echoed Trump in calling the special counsel probe a “witch hunt.” But she said Manafort was guilty all the same, of crimes pertaining to hiding income earned from his political consulting work overseas and other fraud counts.
“Certainly Mr. Manafort got caught breaking the law, but he wouldn’t have gotten caught if they weren’t after President Trump,” Duncan said.
in the world for that statement.