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Scraper wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:09 am I flew from Mexico to Pittsburgh yesterday. I thought there might be some change to the regular customs entry at the airport. But there was none. If anything I got through customs quicker than normal. Dude grabbed my passport, stamped it and sent me on my way. Didn't even ask me any questions. So apparently they're only worried about people possibly having corona virus if they walk over the border.

LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:57 pm Do they know something we don't or were they just trying to lower ALOS?

morlac wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:04 pm

Scraper wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:09 am I flew from Mexico to Pittsburgh yesterday. I thought there might be some change to the regular customs entry at the airport. But there was none. If anything I got through customs quicker than normal. Dude grabbed my passport, stamped it and sent me on my way. Didn't even ask me any questions. So apparently they're only worried about people possibly having corona virus if they walk over the border.

I picked up my sister from ATL airport yesterday. she flew in from Guatemala yesterday, landed at 12:23 and was out front on the curb by 12:46 with all her bags. I/she have never see anything like it. It was a ghost town at on of the worlds busiest airports. They did at least check her for a fever before she boarded in Guatemala but once state side it was come on in. Granted few confirmed cases in Latin America but still.

LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:57 pmThey sent her home saying she is probably safer from the virus outside the hospital rather than in it.

Defiant wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:33 pm On the lighter side, I wonder how many births we'll see in about 9-10 months as a result from all of this.

Remember to stock up on all essential supplies you'll need while you're cooped up.

Defiant wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:33 pm On the lighter side, I wonder how many births we'll see in about 9-10 months as a result from all of this.

Remember to stock up on all essential supplies you'll need while you're cooped up.

...Today, Italy has 10,149 cases of the coronavirus. There are now simply too many patients for each one of them to receive adequate care. Doctors and nurses are unable to tend to everybody. They lack machines to ventilate all those gasping for air.

Now the Italian College of Anesthesia, Analgesia, Resuscitation and Intensive Care (SIAARTI) has published guidelines for the criteria that doctors and nurses should follow in these extraordinary circumstances. .... “It may become necessary to establish an age limit for access to intensive care.”

Those who are too old to have a high likelihood of recovery, or who have too low a number of “life-years” left even if they should survive, will be left to die. This sounds cruel, but the alternative, the document argues, is no better. “In case of a total saturation of resources, maintaining the criterion of ‘first come, first served’ would amount to a decision to exclude late-arriving patients from access to intensive care.”

In addition to age, doctors and nurses are also told to take a patient’s overall state of health into account: “The presence of comorbidities needs to be carefully evaluated.” This is in part because early studies of the virus seem to suggest that patients with serious preexisting health conditions are significantly more likely to die. But it is also because patients in a worse state of overall health could require a greater share of scarce resources to survive: “What might be a relatively short treatment course in healthier people could be longer and more resource-consuming in the case of older or more fragile patients.”

Blackhawk wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:46 pm

Defiant wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:33 pm On the lighter side, I wonder how many births we'll see in about 9-10 months as a result from all of this.

Remember to stock up on all essential supplies you'll need while you're cooped up.

Joke aside, I'm thankful to Smoove for the advanced tip. We laid in a set of basic supplies a week before people started rushing the stores.

Jaymon wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:30 pm“In the past two weeks the number of cases outside China has increased thirteenfold and the number of affected countries has tripled,” WHO Director-General Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said at a press conference at the organization’s headquarters in Geneva. “In the days and weeks ahead, we expect to see the number of cases, the number of deaths and the number of affected countries to climb even higher.”

Grifman wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:04 pm Dr. Fauci of the CDC was testifying before Congress today and was giving honest, factual testimony, warning of the serious issues we may face in the future as the disease progresses. But suddenly he had to leave before his testimony was completed, called away for a previously unscheduled "emergency" meeting at the White House on the virus. Does anyone really believe this? I wonder if he will still have a job after today's hearing.

gameoverman wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:09 pm

Jaymon wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:30 pm“In the past two weeks the number of cases outside China has increased thirteenfold and the number of affected countries has tripled,” WHO Director-General Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said at a press conference at the organization’s headquarters in Geneva. “In the days and weeks ahead, we expect to see the number of cases, the number of deaths and the number of affected countries to climb even higher.”

I guess this is sort of political so I will post this comment in this thread. This kind of statement is what cost authorities credibility, and a time like this is a time when maximum credibility would be extremely helpful. I myself, a non medical non scientist member of the general public, could see this was a 'pandemic' weeks ago just like many other people. March statement "we expect to see..." then they list things that were happening in January.

Look at it this way: when it goes from China to South Korea, you can say the number of countries affected has doubled. When it pops up in Japan, the number of countries has tripled from how many were involved at the start. Everyone also knows testing is not widespread, which means the 'new' cases might not actually be new. Maybe that thirteenfold increase in cases is related to a large increase in testing these last two weeks. In effect it makes them sound like they have been triggered just now to declare a pandemic when that trigger was obvious almost two months ago.

Blackhawk wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:20 pm It wasn't just Fauci. It was all of the witnesses that were called away for a 'vital' meeting just when the oversight questions were getting tough.

gameoverman wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:09 pm I guess this is sort of political so I will post this comment in this thread. This kind of statement is what cost authorities credibility, and a time like this is a time when maximum credibility would be extremely helpful. I myself, a non medical non scientist member of the general public, could see this was a 'pandemic' weeks ago just like many other people. March statement "we expect to see..." then they list things that were happening in January.

Unagi wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:16 pm Has there been any news of Trump stopping his rallies?

Defiant wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:33 pm On the lighter side, I wonder how many births we'll see in about 9-10 months as a result from all of this.

Remember to stock up on all essential supplies you'll need while you're cooped up.

Defiant wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:05 pm Senate GOP Blocks Emergency Paid Sick Leave Bill From Moving Forward

Alexander said that paid sick leave is a “good idea.” But if lawmakers want to require employers to provide it, then the federal government should have to foot the bill, he argued.

Here’s what I’m going to cover in this article, with lots of charts, data and models with plenty of sources:

How many cases of coronavirus will there be in your area?
What will happen when these cases materialize?
What should you do?
When?

When you’re done reading the article, this is what you’ll take away:
The coronavirus is coming to you.
It’s coming at an exponential speed: gradually, and then suddenly.
It’s a matter of days. Maybe a week or two.
When it does, your healthcare system will be overwhelmed.
Your fellow citizens will be treated in the hallways.
Exhausted healthcare workers will break down. Some will die.
They will have to decide which patient gets the oxygen and which one dies.
The only way to prevent this is social distancing today. Not tomorrow. Today.
That means keeping as many people home as possible, starting now.

The Black Death was so devastating because scientists hadn't yet discovered tax cuts

"How's the US handling the Coronavirus?"
"OK, so imagine you shut off all of your error handling in production."
"And?"
"That's it."

Lobbyists representing the oil and gas industry met with White House policy staffers Wednesday morning to discuss coronavirus, the state of the economy and the market, a representative for the American Petroleum Institute told CNBC.

The meeting comes as the market has been roiled by fears of coronavirus and deteriorating OPEC talks. After negotiations between OPEC and Russia fell apart on Friday, OPEC’s de facto leader, Saudi Arabia, on Saturday slashed its oil prices and announced plans to increase production. This led to a selloff in oil markets and pressure on U.S. energy producers.

President Trump is set to deliver a national address from the Oval Office at 9 p.m. ET on Wednesday, following the World Health Organization declaring the outbreak a pandemic and with Washington lawmakers scrambling to propose ways to contain the economic fallout of the fast-spreading virus.

Defiant wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 5:19 pm A good writeup someone posted on the Medium

Here’s what I’m going to cover in this article, with lots of charts, data and models with plenty of sources:

How many cases of coronavirus will there be in your area?
What will happen when these cases materialize?
What should you do?
When?

Defiant wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 5:19 pm A good writeup someone posted on the Medium

Here’s what I’m going to cover in this article, with lots of charts, data and models with plenty of sources:

Yeah, that was a good read. More people need to be aware of what's going on between the tests.