[America] Domestic violent extremism

[Isgrimnur]

The Hill: Former soldier sentenced to 45 years for planning ‘jihadist attack’ on his Army unit

A Justice Department (DOJ) release states 24-year-old Ethan Melzer, a man from Louisville, Ky., pleaded guilty in June to trying to murder U.S. service members, providing and attempting to provide material support for terrorists and illegally transmitting national defense information.

Court documents state Melzer planned the attack in the days before being deployed to Turkey and sent details about his unit like its location, movements and security, to a white supremacist, neo-Nazi, pro-jihadist group called the Order of the Nine Angles.
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Melzer joined the Army around 2018 in an effort to infiltrate it as a member of the order, according to the DOJ.

After the Army told Melzer around May 2020 that he was going to be reassigned to a unit scheduled for foreign deployment, he gave information about the unit to the organization, using an encrypted messaging application to plan an attack on the other soldiers in the unit, per the department.

[GreenGoo]

Nine angles? Are they looking for a protracted conflict?

[Isgrimnur]

Don't be obtuse.

[Pyperkub]

The Hill: Former soldier sentenced to 45 years for planning ‘jihadist attack’ on his Army unit

A Justice Department (DOJ) release states 24-year-old Ethan Melzer, a man from Louisville, Ky., pleaded guilty in June to trying to murder U.S. service members, providing and attempting to provide material support for terrorists and illegally transmitting national defense information.

Court documents state Melzer planned the attack in the days before being deployed to Turkey and sent details about his unit like its location, movements and security, to a white supremacist, neo-Nazi, pro-jihadist group called the Order of the Nine Angles.
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Melzer joined the Army around 2018 in an effort to infiltrate it as a member of the order, according to the DOJ.

After the Army told Melzer around May 2020 that he was going to be reassigned to a unit scheduled for foreign deployment, he gave information about the unit to the organization, using an encrypted messaging application to plan an attack on the other soldiers in the unit, per the department.

Interestingly enough - they also have their own Folk Music...

In early autumn of 2018 an anonymous document began to circulate within occult and musical underground circles accusing Newcastle-born artist and musician Richard Moult of using his connections with respected leftfield musicians to gain a wider audience for the Order of Nine Angles. Usually photographed in unassuming knitwear and spectacles, Moult is an accomplished, well-regarded musician; he was a regular member of Irish avant-folk band United Bible Studies and his own music has appeared on labels including A Year in The Country and Fort Evil Fruit. For at least two decades, however, Moult, under pseudonyms including Christos Beest, Beesty Boy and Audun, was a core member of The Order of Nine Angles, and for some years effectively ran it as its 'Outer Representative', training and initiating new members, editing its journal, Fenrir, and "giving a direction to [its] strategies".

Moult publicly left the O9A in 2001, but according to the circulated PDF, he returned in 2008, at a time when he was actively involved with United Bible Studies and other musicians – some of whom he collaborates with to this day. In The Dreccian Way, a handbook for the new generation of O9A members dated "yf 120" (2009), one of Moult's O9A aliases, 'Audun', sets out the goals for the revitalised organisation:

"At this time of writing the ONA is concerned with several major undertakings in preparedness for the return of the Dark Gods, three of which are… to create new forms, in image, word and musick, which depict and presence the manifesting acausal dark – the essence of the Dark Gods."

Ia! Ia! Ia!

[Jaymann]

They are acutely troubled.

[Blackhawk]

Math nerds.

I'd have gone with something involving Jutes.

[Isgrimnur]

Too close to Saxon violence.

[LordMortis]

I'd have gone with something involving Jutes.

[Isgrimnur]

CBS News

Nearly three dozen people have been detained after flaming bottles and rocks were thrown at officers during a violent protest at a new police training center that's been the site of prior demonstrations and the death of a protester, Atlanta police said.
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Authorities charged 23 people with domestic terrorism in connection with the protest, according to the Atlanta Police Department. The protesters facing charges, whose names and photographs were published by law enforcement online, are from various states across the U.S. as well as Canada and France, according to police. Their ages range from 18 years old to nearly 50. The Georgia Bureau of Investigation filed all charges.

In a statement, police called the incident "a coordinated attack" on equipment and officers by individuals who they allege "used the cover of a peaceful protest" to access the premises before changing "into black clothing and entering the construction area."
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In January, a 26-year-old environmental activist was shot to death by law officers in the forest where the training center is being built.

[malchior]

FWIW while I don't approve of their methods in the protests there, the overcharging in Georgia should concern us. Some of these people are facing charges with penalties up to 35 years for what amounts to trespassing in some cases. The stories from the media about this have been as typical cop propaganda and laden with misinformation.

Human Rights Watch released a letter calling for the charges to be dropped. I would personally support trespassing, obstruction, and vandalism charges for sure but charging domestic terrorism is meant to chill and stop protest against the police.

As concerned civil liberties and human rights organizations, we write to you today to urge you to drop the domestic terrorism and other spurious charges brought against Defend the Atlanta Forest protesters. These charges represent a political decision divorced from any salient public safety concern. We write to you with concerns that charging any protest-related offenses that may have been committed as domestic terrorism will, or are indeed intended, to chill lawful protests, constrain civic space, and erode First Amendment freedoms.

As this letter went to press, 19 people are facing domestic terrorism charges for protest-related offenses, either associated with the Defend the Atlanta Forest occupation at the planned site of the Atlanta Public Safety Training Center or related to protests in Atlanta following the police killing of Tortuguita.[1] These charges represent a political decision to pursue draconian charges disproportionate to the alleged offenses committed. In order to avoid downstream adverse effects on First Amendment freedoms, these charges must be dropped.

[LawBeefaroni]

FWIW while I don't approve of their methods int the protests there, the overcharging in Georgia should concern us. Sone of these people are facing charges with penalties up to 35 years for what amounts to trespassing in some cases. The stories from the media about this have been as typical cop propaganda and laden with misinformation.

GBI filed rhe charges so of course.

They still have the trial.

[malchior]

This is fascist shit.

[LawBeefaroni]

Has the Fulton County DA weighed in, assuming it's their case?

Edit: Nevermind, I see it's DeKalb County. Uh oh.


https://www.wabe.org/domestic-terrorism ... lb-county/

[malchior]

Yeah - FWIW there is *also* a chance of this happening in East Palestine where folks are protesting the Norfolk derailment. It's obviously not as serious but that they are flinging this domestic terrorism stuff around while white supremacists (and their murder sprees and bombings) are our chief problem...is exactly what I expect in this off the rails nation.

Fascism on the march across the United States

Ohio law enforcement issued a report late last month warning that events planned in East Palestine by the environmental activist Erin Brockovich could prompt a terrorist threat from violent extremists, according to an intelligence bulletin obtained by Yahoo News.

Dated Feb. 24 and distributed to law enforcement agencies by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), the Ohio Statewide Terrorism Analysis & Crime Center Terrorism Analysis Unit Situational Awareness [STACC TAU] report obtained by Yahoo News "assesses that special interest extremist groups will continue to call for changes in governmental policy, which may lead to protests in/around East Palestine and/or at the Statehouse in Columbus.”

The report then singles out the reaction by Brockovich, a whistleblower who helped build a successful lawsuit against the California utility company Pacific Gas and Electric in a case involving contaminated groundwater, to the Feb. 3 train derailment and release of toxic chemicals in East Palestine.

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This situational awareness report is highly problematic, said former FBI agent Mike German, who worked on a recent Brennan Center report about issues with DHS fusion centers.

“Obviously, there is no reason to have included Erin Brockovich's name or a description of her advocacy in a law enforcement intelligence report, much less a ‘situational awareness’ report by a state fusion center's terrorism analysis unit,” German told Yahoo News. “Almost all of the activity described in this report is rightly protected by the First Amendment and poses no threat of harm, and therefore should be of no interest to terrorism intelligence units.”

[LordMortis]

I don't know enough to know about Georgia or potential in Ohio but I for the life of me can't see how those protests, even if planned violent can be domestic terrorism and 1/6 isn't. And taking out power substations isn't. I can only assume the terrorism charges will be dropped as time move on.

[Blackhawk]

I don't know enough to know about Georgia or potential in Ohio but I for the life of me can't see how those protests, even if planned violent can be domestic terrorism and 1/6 isn't. And taking out power substations isn't.

One is us, the other is them.

[Jaymann]

Yeah - FWIW there is *also* a chance of this happening in East Palestine where folks are protesting the Norfolk derailment. It's obviously not as serious but that they are flinging this domestic terrorism stuff around while white supremacists (and their murder sprees and bombings) are our chief problem...is exactly what I expect in this off the rails nation.

Don't think I didn't catch that.

[malchior]

Yeah - FWIW there is *also* a chance of this happening in East Palestine where folks are protesting the Norfolk derailment. It's obviously not as serious but that they are flinging this domestic terrorism stuff around while white supremacists (and their murder sprees and bombings) are our chief problem...is exactly what I expect in this off the rails nation.

Don't think I didn't catch that.

You have to "laugh" a little between the tears.

[Smoove_B]

How are things going in Ohio today?

CW for thread: Language and violence

Several anti-drag groups including avowed Neo-Nazis, "White Lives Matter," Proud Boys, Patriot Front, and non-affiliated conservative activists protested outside a drag show today at a public park in Wadsworth, Ohio.

"Pedophiles get the rope!" chanted an armed neo-Nazi group waving swastika flags at the families attending the all-ages event. "F***s go home!"

"Sieg Heil," they chanted while pointing stiff-arm salutes at attendees. "There will be blood!"

"Hey, there's a gay n****r right there!" yelled one of them.

I like how the Proud Boys tried to distance themselves from the other people there waving Nazi flags.

The Proud Boys were also at the anti-drag protest in Ohio today, but tried to distance themselves from the avowed Nazi groups.

"We're all here for the same reason," a 'White Lives Matter Ohio' guy said.

"We are, but go over that way," PB replied.

"They're civic nationalists," explained a WLM guy. "We're white nationalists!"

WLM said they'd like to be in coalition: "Yeah, I'll beat up Antifa in the woods with them."

A III% supporter stood with the WLM guys. I tried to ask him why he stands with them, and they told him not to talk to me, explaining "He's just looking for information!" before calling me a "F****t."

[Alefroth]

Did I correctly hear, "Weimar conditions, Weimar solution"?

[Unagi]

Who let all this riff-raff into the room?!

[hepcat]

If rats keep showing up at your parties, you might want to check to make sure you’re not made of cheese.

[LordMortis]

Who let all this riff-raff into the room?!

Do you suppose they see "Waiting for the Worms" as an anthem? Maybe Trump should see if Roger Waters and Pink Floyd would let them play it for free at his rallies.

[Unagi]

Who let all this riff-raff into the room?!

Do you suppose they see "Waiting for the Worms" as an anthem? Maybe Trump should see if Roger Waters and Pink Floyd would let them play it for free at his rallies.

Yeah, I had the identical thought.

[Blackhawk]

Wait... did someone have spots?

[LawBeefaroni]

Did I correctly hear, "Weimar conditions, Weimar solution"?

You did indeed.

Something unpleasant is definitely coming. The Nazis are emboldened and no one seems to be ready to stand up to them.

I get our devotion to free speech but at some point society needs to deal with credible threats of violence and genocide.

[Carpet_pissr]

Did I correctly hear, "Weimar conditions, Weimar solution"?

You did indeed.

Something unpleasant is definitely coming. The Nazis are emboldened and no one seems to be ready to stand up to them.

I get our devotion to free speech but at some point society needs to deal with credible threats of violence and genocide.

Yep, this. I suspect our dedication to at least the veneer of being the "freeist" country (TM) will be our downfall, or at the least, our "fall from" X factor. The funny thing is that in MANY metrics around "freedom", we are not even top three compared to country peers.

Also, has anyone seen latest stats on our imprisoned pop? And just how easy it is to get locked up here, and for a looong time?

[waitingtoconnect]

I could understand ending American democracy for freedom under some charismatic Antichrist who was good looking and inspirational while sucking out the nations soul.

But Donald trump. Donald trump inspired people to end democracy? It’s like some bad 90s tv show.

[Blackhawk]

Luckily, we have the FBI to keep them in check.

Right?

Right?

[waitingtoconnect]

The fbi is great at keeping antichrists, democrats email servers and sentient laptops owned by hunter Biden in check.

[waitingtoconnect]

The fbi is great at keeping antichrists, democrats email servers and sentient laptops owned by hunter Biden in check.

Donald trumps not so much.

[Smoove_B]

Kinda surprised they tried this in NYC:

Proud Boys bloodied and jailed during NYC drag queen story hour protest

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"I came here to help, not get the shit beat out of me," [the Proud Boy] says.

[Grifman]

Busted:

[Jaymann]

That's not a loss for the Nihilist Rednecks, it's a gain for the Aryan Brotherhood.

[Isgrimnur]

Seven dead and 10 wounded after being run over in front of Texas migrant shelter, say police

The shocking incident took place on Sunday morning near Brownsville’s Ozanam Center, which is a shelter for migrants and homeless in the Texas city.

Police spokesperson Lt Martin Sandoval told KVEO-TV that seven victims died at the scene. The crash took place at a bus stop near the shelter in the border city at around 8.30am CT.
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The male suspect, who has not yet been named but has been described by police as Hispanic, was arrested and charged with reckless driving, but Lt Sandoval told the news station that more charges will likely be filed.
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Luis Herrera told the news channel that he and his friends, a number of whom were killed, were waiting to go to the airport when they were struck by the vehicle.

“We were going to the airport and it happened unexpectedly because a woman in a car passed by and advised us to separate and moments later the killer was coming in the car gesturing and insulting us,” Mr Herrera said.
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The facility had not received any threats before the crash, but Mr Maldonado said it had in the wake of the accident.

“I’ve had a couple of people come by the gate and tell the security guard that the reason this happened was because of us,” Mr Maldonado said.

[Isgrimnur]

CNN

The man who drove a vehicle into a group of people near a migrant shelter in Brownsville, Texas, on Sunday, killing eight and injuring 10 more, has been charged with eight counts of manslaughter, Brownsville Police chief Felix Sauceda said Monday.

The driver was identified as George Alvarez, a 34-year-old with an extensive rap sheet, including prior charges of assault and driving while intoxicated, according to police. The vehicle he was driving ran a red light, lost control, flipped on its side and hit a total of 18 people, the chief said. Alvarez then tried to flee the scene before he was detained by bystanders, police said.

He was charged on the manslaughter counts as well as 10 counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, and his bond was set at $3.6 million, the chief said. Police said they are still investigating the cause of the crash.

[Smoove_B]

Oh yeah, this goes here now:

A social media page appearing to belong to a gunman who killed eight people at a Dallas-area outlet mall shared extremist beliefs with rants against Jews, women and racial minorities posted since September, as well as posts about struggling with mental health.

Mauricio Garcia, 33, maintained a profile on the Russian social networking platform OK.RU, including posts referencing extremist online forums, such as 4chan, and content from white nationalists, including Nick Fuentes, an antisemitic white nationalist provocateur

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He also posted photos of a flak vest emblazoned with patches, including one with the acronym for "Right Wing Death Squad," a popular meme among far-right extremist groups. Another post included a series of shirtless pictures with visible white power tattoos, including SS Lightning Bolts and a swastika.

[Isgrimnur]

He also served in the military for three months but was removed due to physical or mental health conditions, an army spokesperson said.

[malchior]

Stochastic terrorism on the rise. Get used to it. It means more shooting rampages, attacks on Target stores, and mayhem in this blasted hellscape. Though even with tilt towards lone wolfs right now, I wouldn't count out organized right-wing organizations either. Groups like Patriot Front keeps recruiting - even though they appear largely ineffective at the moment.

The US is at an increased risk of domestic terror attacks by rightwing “lone wolf” actors, experts have warned, as inflammatory Republican rhetoric around a variety of issues seems likely to continue ahead of the 2024 election.

The number of attacks by adherents to rightwing ideology has soared since 2016, as Republican lies about election interference, and escalating rhetoric from the right about minority groups, have served to “provide mechanisms” for individuals to become radicalized, an analyst said.

As the threat of domestic rightwing terrorism rises, researchers say individuals, rather than organized groups, are now far more likely to commit what analysts call “crimes inspired by extremist ideology”.

[malchior]

Special note on the above from the article above. The last sentence below is particularly interesting to me. It's a great observation. I've made similar complaints about the fact that the FBI collects all sorts of crime statistics including officers injured or killed in line of duty but doesn't measure use of force complaints, people injured by police, or people killed by police. And I still believe all their "blind spots" to be wholly intentional. Measurement drives action.

But despite the FBI and US intelligence pronouncements, a major problem with combating rightwing terrorism is that law enforcement does not adequately track of instances of violence, said Michael German, a former FBI special agent infiltrated white supremacy groups in the 1990s who now works at the Brennan Center for Justice.

“The FBI doesn’t know how many people white supremacists killed last year in the United States. They don’t collect that information,” German said.

When attacks by white supremacists do happen, “they often get parsed in a way that minimizes them,” he said. White supremacist violence is frequently recorded under the category of gang violence, rather than domestic terrorism, while attacks conducted by individuals who have far-right beliefs are frequently classified as hate crimes – outside of the domestic terrorism umbrella.

“You would think that if the FBI and the justice department had a real interest in significantly suppressing this type of crime, they would at least count them,” German said.