That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons bring us some web forums whereupon we can gather
http://garbi.online/forum/
My (perhaps incorrect!) understanding is that the 95% stat means that it reduces the chance of getting Covid by 95%. For whatever reason, some people still get it even after having been given the vaccine (but perhaps with less severe symptoms?) but most people will be fully immune or at the very least their immune systems combats the virus down to undetectable levels in their system.Lorini wrote:
The vaccine doesn't give full immunity right? It's 95-96% which is not truly immunity yes?
It also means that there is a 95% chance that the person you're standing next to doesn't get it. Think about it this way: if only 5% can get it after the vaccine, and you're in a room with 20 people, only one is susceptible. Meaning that the one won't get it either, as none of the 19 people who could give it to him will have it.Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:43 pmMy (perhaps incorrect!) understanding is that the 95% stat means that it reduces the chance of getting Covid by 95%. For whatever reason, some people still get it even after having been given the vaccine (but perhaps with less severe symptoms?) but most people will be fully immune or at the very least their immune systems combats the virus down to undetectable levels in their system.Lorini wrote:
The vaccine doesn't give full immunity right? It's 95-96% which is not truly immunity yes?
I think it’s too early to know, although I heard somewhere that there was hope that immunity from the vaccine would last longer than immunity if naturally infected.Daehawk wrote:From stuff Ive seen of people who get reinfected their own immunity seems to last about 4 months. So Im guessing the vaccine is good for 4 months right?
I don't see how. It all requires the same viral material and same body response from the immune system - whether the virus is weakened/inert or thriving and wages all-out war. We're not hearing about widespread re-infections, though. It seems to be a low percentage. Maybe there are slightly different strains of COVID-19 creeping around now and that's the culprit?Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:20 amI think it’s too early to know, although I heard somewhere that there was hope that immunity from the vaccine would last longer than immunity if naturally infected.Daehawk wrote:From stuff Ive seen of people who get reinfected their own immunity seems to last about 4 months. So Im guessing the vaccine is good for 4 months right?
My wife has seen plenty of re-infections at her job. She said the second infection is often fatal in their residents.Paingod wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:48 am We're not hearing about widespread re-infections, though. It seems to be a low percentage. Maybe there are slightly different strains of COVID-19 creeping around now and that's the culprit?
Is it confirmed that they have Covid again or are they more vulnerable to other respiratory issues/pathogens after their first bout with Covid-19?Jeff V wrote:My wife has seen plenty of re-infections at her job. She said the second infection is often fatal in their residents.Paingod wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:48 am We're not hearing about widespread re-infections, though. It seems to be a low percentage. Maybe there are slightly different strains of COVID-19 creeping around now and that's the culprit?
This is a solid look at the latest science on reinfection.Paingod wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:48 amI don't see how. It all requires the same viral material and same body response from the immune system - whether the virus is weakened/inert or thriving and wages all-out war. We're not hearing about widespread re-infections, though. It seems to be a low percentage. Maybe there are slightly different strains of COVID-19 creeping around now and that's the culprit?Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:20 amI think it’s too early to know, although I heard somewhere that there was hope that immunity from the vaccine would last longer than immunity if naturally infected.Daehawk wrote:From stuff Ive seen of people who get reinfected their own immunity seems to last about 4 months. So Im guessing the vaccine is good for 4 months right?
Reinfections hint that immunity against COVID-19 may be fragile and wane relatively quickly, with implications not just for the risks facing recovered patients, but also for how long future vaccines might protect people. “The question everybody wants to answer is: Is that second one going to be less severe most of the time or not?” says Derek Cummings, who studies infectious disease dynamics at the University of Florida. “And what do reinfections teach us about SARS-CoV-2 immunity in general?”
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The Hong Kong patient’s second infection was milder than the first, which is what immunologists would expect, because the first infection typically generates some immunity. That may explain why reinfections are still relatively rare, says Maria Elena Bottazzi, a molecular virologist at Baylor College of Medicine and Texas Children’s Hospital.
They could become more common over the next couple of months if early cases begin to lose their immunity. Reinfections with the four coronaviruses that cause the common cold occur after an average of 12 months, a team led by virologist Lia van der Hoek at Amsterdam University Medical Center recently showed. Van der Hoek thinks COVID-19 may follow that pattern: “I think we’d better prepare for a wave of reinfections over the coming months.” That’s “bad news for those who still believe in herd immunity through natural infections,” she adds, and a worrisome sign for vaccines.
Another way that seasonal colds might be contributing to COVID-19 immunity is that a current rhinovirus infection might interfere directly with SARS-CoV-2 — perhaps by kicking off interferon responses, part of the immune system that inhibits viral reproduction. A study6 by Ware and his colleagues, for example, shows that someone with a rhinovirus infection is 70% less likely to also get a common coronavirus infection, compared with someone who doesn’t have the sniffles. Clinical microbiologist Alberto Paniz Mondolfi at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai, New York, and colleagues have shown markedly few rhinovirus co-infections in people with SARS-CoV-2 in New York City11. “Rhinovirus is one tough virus,” says Paniz Mondolfi. Its fast growth stops other viruses from taking off, and it could conceivably be outcompeting SARS-CoV-2, he says.
This viral interference might be a powerful effect. Ellen Foxman, an immunologist at the Yale School of Medicine in New Haven, Connecticut, and colleagues have found evidence that rhinoviruses might have derailed the influenza H1N1 pandemic that occurred in 2009, for example12. Hospitalized adults had fewer-than-expected instances of co-infection with both viruses. And, in cell cultures, rhinovirus infection stopped that strain of H1N1 from infecting cells. Foxman is now looking to see whether rhinovirus infection can block SARS-CoV-2; she expects results soon.
Overall, it’s a “very likely scenario” that rhinoviruses and other coronaviruses will help to stem the spread of COVID-19, says Paniz Mondolfi. “I think many virologists, like me, have been waiting for this season to look at how this will evolve.”
But what if it’s German chocolate cake?Zarathud wrote:If it's cake or death, choose cake.
It's a +50, but requires a roll every 10 seconds after the first 30. A failure results in lying on the floor, which is a -75.
I see you dug up a copy of the Infectious Diseases table from Gary Gygax's Dangerous Journeys. He really did have a table for every possibility.Blackhawk wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:19 pm And anytime you're in a sealed area sharing air with people, there is an automatic cap on how much you can social distance. The more air, the more it is circulated, the higher the cap. A warehouse-sized store with 20 people is probably safer than a minimart with five, which is probably safer than a car with one.
Also note that every minute you spend in the shared air reduces your Social Distancing Cap by -1.
Masks give you a +30 bonus to Social Distancing, and give you a +5 on the Save vs Disease should you encounter it.
And remember, no matter how high your bonus, you can still roll a 1.
As COVID-19 vaccines roll out to limited groups of people across the United States, how people learn they are eligible to get their shots won't be as clear while supplies remain limited, according to public health and policy experts and state vaccination plans.
"I think it's going to be a little bit murky," said Katie Greene, a visiting policy associate at the Duke-Margolis Center for Health Policy.
"I wouldn't be surprised if thousands of individuals get left out because of the information gap," added Tinglong Dai, a Johns Hopkins Carey Business School professor who studies operations management and business analytics in health care.
Vaccine rollout has largely been left to the states, and with an "isolated and decentralized health system" in the U.S., as Dai put it, people may not know when they're eligible to get their vaccine. And they may have to be proactive in finding where they can get one and in proving that they meet the criteria to be next in line.
I work in healthcare, so it is pretty easy for me to figure out when and how. But yeah, I can see if you are not attached to healthcare it would be difficult to know.Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:52 pm USA Today: How will you be told when it's your turn for a COVID-19 vaccine? It's complicated.
As COVID-19 vaccines roll out to limited groups of people across the United States, how people learn they are eligible to get their shots won't be as clear while supplies remain limited, according to public health and policy experts and state vaccination plans.
"I think it's going to be a little bit murky," said Katie Greene, a visiting policy associate at the Duke-Margolis Center for Health Policy.
"I wouldn't be surprised if thousands of individuals get left out because of the information gap," added Tinglong Dai, a Johns Hopkins Carey Business School professor who studies operations management and business analytics in health care.
Vaccine rollout has largely been left to the states, and with an "isolated and decentralized health system" in the U.S., as Dai put it, people may not know when they're eligible to get their vaccine. And they may have to be proactive in finding where they can get one and in proving that they meet the criteria to be next in line.
I hope NC has a better plan than MA does. Anxiety, relief -- and confusion -- as vaccines head to MA's hard-hit senior-care centers.Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:10 pm I just heard that the plan is for my grandmother’s assisted living facility in North Carolina to get the vaccine the first week or two of January. They’ve been pretty fortunate and no residents in assisted living have gotten the virus. But that’s not the case in what she termed the nursing home, which is in a separate building: they’ve had over 20 residents and almost 30 staff get the virus. At least five residents have died. The vaccine can’t get there soon enough.
Also, they need to get 115,000 consent forms signed by the residents or their guardians.No group has suffered more in the COVID-19 pandemic than residents at long-term-care facilities, accounting for more than 60 percent of coronavirus deaths in Massachusetts. And there are ominous signs infections are surging again: Nearly three-quarters of the state’s 269 long-term-care facilities have at least two COVID-19 cases.
But inoculating the tens of thousands of frail elders who live in such facilities and the small army of caregivers who look after them may be the single most challenging phase of the state’s ambitious vaccine program.
Not only are nursing homes full of people whose dementia makes it difficult for them to give informed consent, but many senior care workers express wariness about the vaccines, suggesting sizable numbers may not step forward to get their shots on Monday, when the program is slated to begin.
Adding to the uncertainty, several long-term-care administrators this week said they still hadn’t received definitive information about when their staff and residents will be vaccinated. The pharmacy chains CVS and Walgreens are administering the vaccines with plans to visit each such facility in Massachusetts three times in the coming weeks.
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“In some nursing homes, I get a sense that it’s just 25 percent [of staff] who will take the vaccine, and some homes up to 60 or 65 percent. But that’s it, unfortunately” said Dr. Asif Merchant,medical director at four nursing homes in the Metro West area and partner of a company that runs medical services for 45 nursing homes in Massachusetts.
Merchant has been leading informational sessions for staff at nursing homes. Before and after each one, he said, he asks participants to raise their hand if they are ready to get a shot. Success, he said, is now measured by one or two more converts at a time.
The union that represents thousands of nursing home workers, 1199SEIUUnited Healthcare Workers East, said an informal survey of its members, which also includes home health and hospital workers, found half expressing hesitation about getting a shot.
In my county here in Florida they have announced vaccine shots will be given to 65+ folks starting next Monday. Several other counties in Central Florida have already started giving out shots, and the state of Florida has ruled that you don't have to be a resident of a particular county to get a shot there, since these shots are part of a Federal program. All shots are by appointment only but they are handling close to a thousand appointments a day each at various locations. Orange County (part of Orlando) already has thirty thousand people with scheduled appointments so they aren't going to take any more appointments in the near future. All you need is some form of identification, all shots are free.dbt1949 wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 10:41 pm I'm not sure how my wife and I are going to get the shot. I'm part of the VA system and my wife's on Medicaid.
Or do we both use Medicare? Do we use the same hospital/clinic?
It's all very confusing right now.
just to get on the surgery schedule 
L4/L5 lumbar vertebra, so about inbetween
