OO MTT NLHE 2007 Poker Tournament: Table Varkonyi

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 1:05 pm

Actually PMs are require are required. Mistakes happen though. Why bow out due to one mistake that you received an appology for? Its your choice but we will miss you.

tjg_marantz · Post by **tjg_marantz** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:53 pm

Well it's a rule and yet it's not a rule so who knows, hehe. I simply do not have the time to check this thread every 24 hours to see if it's my time or not to play. I'd rather just bow out, thanks.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:15 am

tjg_marantz wrote:Well it's a rule and yet it's not a rule so who knows, hehe. I simply do not have the time to check this thread every 24 hours to see if it's my time or not to play. I'd rather just bow out, thanks.

If you check in one time every 24 hours you'll never time out. You're being silly but that's your prerogative. I'm sure Meal will find someone else to handle your chips. I've enjoyed playing with you but the fact you missed 1 hand because you didn't receive a PM is certainly blowing things out of perspective. 99% of the time you'll get a PM; this time you didn't. It happens. I screwed up once and missed PM'ing dedewhale, but fortunately he checked in. It's supposed to be fun though and if you aren't having fun at least you're being up front about it and we can get someone who wants to play to take over your stack. (Or you can give them to me

)

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:58 am

If you're logging in to check PMs, you can check the thread. If you have PMs emailed to you, you can subscribe to the thread.

Papa Smurph · Post by **Papa Smurph** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:46 am

I was trying to keep my mouth shut, but this is starting to piss me off. I KNOW I sent you a PM, because I had never sent you one before and remember double checking the spelling of "marantz" a couple of times. Also, after sending the PM I checked my "Sentbox" and "Outbox" to make sure that it was there (why are there two of these??) Unfortunately (and I'm starting to think this might be the real problem), after checking them I realized that they were starting to get cluttered, so I deleted them all (therefore I can't show a screenshot of my Sentbox/Outbox showing the sent PM). I'm wondering now if deleting them might have prevented you from seeing the PM?

Either way, I apologized because I did my best to follow the rules. If, however, doing my best is not good enough for you... then stick it. My best is all I can do.

Shinjin · Post by **Shinjin** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:04 pm

Outbox = where messages first go when you click Submit
Sentbox = where messages go after the message has been read by the recipient

I believe that if you delete a message from the Outbox, then the person you sent the message to can't read the message since it has been deleted, more or less like a message recall (would be easy enough to test this). If the person doesn't have email notification turned on for PMs, then he won't even know that a message was sent.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:30 pm

Shinjin wrote:Outbox = where messages first go when you click Submit
Sentbox = where messages go after the message has been read by the recipient

I believe that if you delete a message from the Outbox, then the person you sent the message to can't read the message since it has been deleted, more or less like a message recall (would be easy enough to test this). If the person doesn't have email notification turned on for PMs, then he won't even know that a message was sent.

This is the case. The message sits in your Outbox, where it may be edited or deleted until it is read. When it's read it moves to the Sent box. In any case, whether or not it was sent isn't a big deal at this point. I've screwed up the PM thing and I'm sure others have and will. Marantz decided to quit because he missed a hand and so be it, we'll move on according to Meal's decision regarding his stack. Another table had someone get mad about something and decide to push all-in every hand. Meal just gave his stack to someone else who wants to play. I wound't worry your little blue head about it anymore.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:54 pm

The Meal timed out. Now what?

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:08 pm

Remus West wrote:The Meal timed out. Now what?

PM yourself to pass the time.

Papa Smurph · Post by **Papa Smurph** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:39 pm

Shinjin wrote:Outbox = where messages first go when you click Submit
Sentbox = where messages go after the message has been read by the recipient

I believe that if you delete a message from the Outbox, then the person you sent the message to can't read the message since it has been deleted, more or less like a message recall (would be easy enough to test this). If the person doesn't have email notification turned on for PMs, then he won't even know that a message was sent.

Thank you for the information. I had briefly looked and didn't see any documentation describing this PM system, so I just assumed it was more like email (once sent, it's gone and cannot be withdrawn). So, this means that I really did screw up (which I what I had assumed since tjg_marantz would have no reason to lie about it). Nonetheless, it was an accident, and now that I know how it works I shouldn't make that mistake again.

As for worrying "my little blue head", I'm not trying too, it just seems like my mistake was the cause of this little drama and I don't like causing these kinds of things. But, let's get back to the game. I'm doing pretty good after dedewhale bluffed me most of his chips.

The Meal · Post by **The Meal** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:38 pm

Remus West wrote:The Meal timed out. Now what?

My apologies if my unscheduled >24 hour period away from OO has in some way inconvenienced you. Expect this to happen again at some point in the future.

Sincerely,
~The Meal

The Meal · Post by **The Meal** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:40 pm

tjg_marantz wrote:Consider me post and fold until the end.
Thanks.

As explained to Grundbegriff here my preference would be for you to find someone else to take over your chipstack. If you are unable to find someone else to do this, then letting you get blinded off is an acceptable secondary solution (and one from which you can, at any moment, change your mind).

Let me know if you're actively searching for someone to take over your chips.

~Neal

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:41 pm

The Meal wrote:
Remus West wrote:The Meal timed out. Now what?
My apologies if my unscheduled >24 hour period away from OO has in some way inconvenienced you. Expect this to happen again at some point in the future.

Sincerely,
~The Meal

Well you had better appologize boy. I mean here you spend how many unpaid hours working to set up and run this tourney for my/our enjoyment and you dare cease for any length of time without warning?!!!

In other words I was just playing around before, thought it a more light hearted drama than the other choice to poke at.

The Meal · Post by **The Meal** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:44 pm

Varkonyi HAND089 Blinds 55/110/11
Incoming bankrolls:
003406 tjg_marantz [button]
015994 Austin [SB]
000459 dedewhale [BB]
008277 Captain Caveman
009358 Shinjin
018763 ScubaV
014661 Remus West
024665 LawBeefaroni
030666 Papa Smurph

Preflop action:
9 players ante 11 each (pot: 99)
Austin (15928) in SB for 55 (pot: 154)
dedewhale (338) in BB for 110 (pot: 264)
Captain Caveman (7656) raises to 610 (pot: 874)
Shinjin (8737) calls 610 (pot: 1484)
ScubaV folds
Remus West folds
LawBeefaroni folds
Papa Smurph folds
tjg_marantz folds (TIMEOUT)
Austin (15373) calls 610 (pot: 2039)
dedewhale (all-in) calls for 338 (main pot: 1451, side pot {Captain Caveman, Shinjin, Austin}: 816)

Three active and one all-in player to the flop:
The flop comes

:7h::5c:
Austin (14373) bets 1000 (main pot: 1451, side pot {CC, Shin, Aust}: 1816)
tjg_marantz is AWAY
Captain Caveman (5656) raises by 1000 to 2000 (main pot: 1451, side pot {CC, Shin, Aust}: 3816)
Shinjin (6737) calls (main pot: 1451, side pot {CC, Shin, Aust}: 5816)
Austin folds

Two active and one all-in player to the turn:
The turn comes

:7h::5c::Ks:
ACTION ON Captain Caveman (5656)

Just Captain Caveman and Shinjin active in the pot.

~Neal

The Meal · Post by **The Meal** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:45 pm

Remus West wrote:
The Meal wrote:
Remus West wrote:The Meal timed out. Now what?
My apologies if my unscheduled >24 hour period away from OO has in some way inconvenienced you. Expect this to happen again at some point in the future.

Sincerely,
~The Meal
Well you had better appologize boy. I mean here you spend how many unpaid hours working to set up and run this tourney for my/our enjoyment and you dare cease for any length of time without warning?!!!

In other words I was just playing around before, thought it a more light hearted drama than the other choice to poke at.

I only gave you my most sincere response because the yellow sad face really touched my heartstrings.

~Neal

Captain Caveman · Post by **Captain Caveman** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:06 pm

Action: Bet 1500
Action on Shinjin (PMing now)

Shinjin · Post by **Shinjin** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:44 pm

Action: Raise by 2500

PM to CC

Captain Caveman · Post by **Captain Caveman** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:15 pm

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:21 pm

Captain Caveman wrote:FOLD

/cough.

Action:

Papa Smurph · Post by **Papa Smurph** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:21 pm

The Meal · Post by **The Meal** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:25 pm

I had a little bit of the math incorrect in the main pot and side pot (you can see the changes from earlier posts), but I've corrected that below. It only changed the relative amount in each of the two pots and should not have affected the pot odds or any betting considerations throughout the hand.

Varkonyi HAND089 Blinds 55/110/11
Incoming bankrolls:
003406 tjg_marantz [button]
015994 Austin [SB]
000459 dedewhale [BB]
008277 Captain Caveman
009358 Shinjin
018763 ScubaV
014661 Remus West
024665 LawBeefaroni
030666 Papa Smurph

Preflop action:
9 players ante 11 each (pot: 99)
Austin (15928) in SB for 55 (pot: 154)
dedewhale (338) in BB for 110 (pot: 264)
Captain Caveman (7656) raises to 610 (pot: 874)
Shinjin (8737) calls 610 (pot: 1484)
ScubaV folds
Remus West folds
LawBeefaroni folds
Papa Smurph folds
tjg_marantz folds (TIMEOUT)
Austin (15373) calls 610 (pot: 2039)
dedewhale (all-in) calls for 448 (main pot: 1891, side pot {Captain Caveman, Shinjin, Austin}: 486)

Three active and one all-in player to the flop:
The flop comes

:7h::5c:
Austin (14373) bets 1000 (main pot: 1891, side pot {CC, Shin, Aust}: 1486)
tjg_marantz is AWAY
Captain Caveman (5656) raises by 1000 to 2000 (main pot: 1891, side pot {CC, Shin, Aust}: 3486)
Shinjin (6737) calls (main pot: 1891, side pot {CC, Shin, Aust}: 5486)
Austin folds

Two active and one all-in player to the turn:
The turn comes

:7h::5c::Ks:
Captain Caveman (4156) bets 1500 (main pot: 1891, side pot {CC, Shin}: 6986)
Shinjin (2737) bluffs 4000 into the pot (main pot: 1891, side pot {CC, Shin): 10986)
Captain Caveman's nutsack shrinks and he folds
Shinjin wins 10986 from the side pot

Two to the river:
The river comes

:7h::5c::Ks::Ad:

Showdown:
dedewhale shows

:2c: for

:Ks::Js::9h::7h:
Shinjin shows

:3h: for

:Ad::Ks::9h::7h:
Shinjin wins 1891 chips from the main pot
dedewhale has been eliminated in 36th place

Hand Summary and Chip Count:
003395 tjg_marantz (fold preflop {FIRST TIMEOUT})
014373 Austin (call 610 preflop, bet 1000-fold flop)
000000 dedewhale (call 448 preflop {all-in}, lose showdown, eliminated in 36th place)
004156 Captain Caveman (raise to 610 preflop, raise to 2000 flop, bet 1500-fold turn)
015614 Shinjin (call 610 preflop, call 2000 flop, raise to 4000 turn, win showdown)
018752 ScubaV (fold preflop)
014650 Remus West (fold preflop)
024654 LawBeefaroni (fold preflop)
030655 Papa Smurph (fold preflop)

It'll be a little bit (about a half hour-ish?) before I'm back with your next hand.

~Neal

The Meal · Post by **The Meal** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:48 pm

Varkonyi HAND093 Blinds 59/118/11
Incoming bankrolls:
003395 tjg_marantz (AWAY)
014373 Austin [button]
004156 Captain Caveman [BB]
015614 Shinjin
018752 ScubaV
014650 Remus West
024654 LawBeefaroni
030655 Papa Smurph

Preflop action:
8 players ante 11 each (pot: 88)
No SB this hand as previous BB busted out
Captain Caveman (4027) in BB for 118 (pot: 206)
ACTION ON Shinjin (15603)

Cards are on their way.

~Neal

tjg_marantz · Post by **tjg_marantz** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:49 pm

Papa, I'd rather not stick anything into anything if that's okay with you.

I don't think I ever blasted you for anything or said anything derogatory towards you and I won't now. I never said you didn't go enough or anythign of the sort, please don't take it that way

Mistakes happen and it's no big deal so just know that at no point did I think you were at fault or a bad smurf or anything like that

Austin's reply was less than nice and surprised me since I've already explained myself but hey, can't please everyone all the time so no biggie there either. Again, this is not about being pissed off, it's about not being able to put in the time to make sure I never miss a hand. The Meal asked for players who would finish the game and I thought I was going to be able to, my home situation has changed and I cannot in good conscience say that I will keep checking in here at a regular interval so I'd rather withdraw. End of story, some people here are making this an entirely too big story than it needs to be. Please just drop the subject.

Meal, I am not currently seeking a replacement simply because my stack is too small for anyone to really want it. I'd suggest splitting the chips among all the remaining players and posting and folding me, your choice really.

Thank you for running the tourney and sorry for not being able to finish it.

The Meal · Post by **The Meal** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:50 pm

Hole cards are out. Good luck, everyone.

~Neal

The Meal · Post by **The Meal** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:52 pm

tjg_marantz wrote:Meal, I am not currently seeking a replacement simply because my stack is too small for anyone to really want it.

I'll try to find someone, then; once I get a few spare moments. Thanks for the final feedback. Until someone is found for the chips, you'll continue to be set to AWAY.

~Neal

Shinjin · Post by **Shinjin** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:47 pm

Action: Raise to 500

PM to ScubaV

ScubaV · Post by **ScubaV** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:49 pm

Action: Fold

Action on Remus West

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:56 pm

Shocking all at the table I will ponder a move to go all in.

Action: FOLD.

PMing Lawbeefaroni.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:09 pm

tjg_marantz wrote:Papa, I'd rather not stick anything into anything if that's okay with you. I don't think I ever blasted you for anything or said anything derogatory towards you and I won't now. I never said you didn't go enough or anythign of the sort, please don't take it that way Mistakes happen and it's no big deal so just know that at no point did I think you were at fault or a bad smurf or anything like that

Austin's reply was less than nice and surprised me since I've already explained myself but hey, can't please everyone all the time so no biggie there either. Again, this is not about being pissed off, it's about not being able to put in the time to make sure I never miss a hand. The Meal asked for players who would finish the game and I thought I was going to be able to, my home situation has changed and I cannot in good conscience say that I will keep checking in here at a regular interval so I'd rather withdraw. End of story, some people here are making this an entirely too big story than it needs to be. Please just drop the subject.

Meal, I am not currently seeking a replacement simply because my stack is too small for anyone to really want it. I'd suggest splitting the chips among all the remaining players and posting and folding me, your choice really.

Thank you for running the tourney and sorry for not being able to finish it.

I like you marantz, I do. (poutine packets not withstanding

) I said that I enjoyed playing with you and of course I wish you'd stick around.

Papa Smurph · Post by **Papa Smurph** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:27 pm

tjg_marantz wrote:Papa, I'd rather not stick anything into anything if that's okay with you. I don't think I ever blasted you for anything or said anything derogatory towards you and I won't now. I never said you didn't go enough or anythign of the sort, please don't take it that way Mistakes happen and it's no big deal so just know that at no point did I think you were at fault or a bad smurf or anything like that

Austin's reply was less than nice and surprised me since I've already explained myself but hey, can't please everyone all the time so no biggie there either. Again, this is not about being pissed off, it's about not being able to put in the time to make sure I never miss a hand. The Meal asked for players who would finish the game and I thought I was going to be able to, my home situation has changed and I cannot in good conscience say that I will keep checking in here at a regular interval so I'd rather withdraw. End of story, some people here are making this an entirely too big story than it needs to be. Please just drop the subject.

Meal, I am not currently seeking a replacement simply because my stack is too small for anyone to really want it. I'd suggest splitting the chips among all the remaining players and posting and folding me, your choice really.

Thank you for running the tourney and sorry for not being able to finish it.

Thanks, T, that does help. It seemed like you were mad that you missed the hand and that was compelling your actions. Knowing that this is not the reason makes it easier on me because then my mistake is not the cause.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:24 pm

I blame Papa Smurf. As punishment I shall have to take smurfette behind the huts and smurf her. Smurf her twice even.Provided I have that much stamina/recovery time.

Papa Smurph · Post by **Papa Smurph** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:04 pm

Careful, Remus, Smurfette has not aged very well...

Edited to remove image to save my eyes.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:18 pm

OMG remove that picture. Now. Now. Now. And I never said what "smurf" was. Nope, never.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:45 am

Action: Fold

PMing Papa.

Papa Smurph · Post by **Papa Smurph** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:47 pm

Action: Call
Action on Austin

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:56 pm

Action: Call over to CapCav

Captain Caveman · Post by **Captain Caveman** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 2:16 pm

Action: Call

Action on the Meal, I believe.

The Meal · Post by **The Meal** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:23 pm

I was fortunate enough to end up with *two* interested parties for tjg's spot in the tournament. Stay tuned for an announcement...

Varkonyi HAND093 Blinds 59/118/11
Incoming bankrolls:
003395 tjg_marantz (AWAY)
014373 Austin [button]
004156 Captain Caveman [BB]
015614 Shinjin
018752 ScubaV
014650 Remus West
024654 LawBeefaroni
030655 Papa Smurph

Preflop action:
8 players ante 11 each (pot: 88)
No SB this hand as previous BB busted out
Captain Caveman (4027) in BB for 118 (pot: 206)
Shinjin (15103) raises by 382 to 500 (pot: 706)
ScubaV folds
Remus West folds
LawBeefaroni folds
Papa Smurph (30144) calls 500 (pot: 1206)
tjg_marantz folds (AWAY)
Austin (13862) calls 500 (pot: 1706)
Captain Caveman (3645) calls (pot: 2088)

Four to the flop:
The flop comes

:8h::6s:
ACTION ON Captain Caveman (3645)

Captain Caveman, Shinjin, Papa Smurph, and Austin in the hand.

~Neal

Captain Caveman · Post by **Captain Caveman** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:52 pm

Action: Check
Action on Shinjin (PMing now)

Shinjin · Post by **Shinjin** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:50 pm

Action: Bet 2000

PM to Papa Smurf