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This is as thrilling a mystery as 'why did Melania Trump delete her website?'

Breitbart is all over it. My personal favorites are referring to it as 'Panic Mode' and referring to the visa program as 'unfettered pay-to-play Muslim migration'.

I'm waiting for the big finale where Trump, with his family in tow, rips off Khan's mask, revealing that IT'S BEEN HILLARY ALL ALONG!

Hillary then gets carted off to jail for being a lying liar, yelling "And I would've gotten away with it too, if it hadn't been for you meddling Trumps!"

Drumpf throws out a crying baby from a rally.

Trump first said he was fine with the baby.

"Don't worry about that baby. I love babies. I love babies. I hear that baby crying, I like it," Trump said. "What a baby, what a beautiful baby. Don't worry, don't worry ... Like, don't worry about it."

But the baby continued to cry as Trump continued to talk. So Trump backtracked.

"Actually, I was only kidding. You can get that baby out of here," Trump said. "That's alright. Don't worry. I think she really believed me that I love having a baby crying while I'm speaking. That's OK. People don't understand."

There are so, so many things wrong with that graph from a sheer formatting perspective.

It also reads to me like we're getting a ton of people coming in from China on those visas, and a grand total of 119 issued to residents of Middle Eastern countries. THE HORROR!

Chaz wrote:There are so, so many things wrong with that graph from a sheer formatting perspective.

It also reads to me like we're getting a ton of people coming in from China on those visas, and a grand total of 119 issued to residents of Middle Eastern countries. THE HORROR!

Obviously those numbers are given in billions of people. So a grand total of 119 billion issued to residents of Middle Eastern countries.

Dammit. I missed my prediction by that >< much. I thought he would have to kick a baby to take it to the next level after going after the parents of dead soldiers. All he just had to do was brazenly insult what I assume is a baby's mother for her parental stupidity. So close.

GreenGoo wrote:Geezus H. Krist.

Is that supposed to be scandalous or something? Foreign investment in the US from countries with treaties with the US, plus job creation.

Only during an election cycle could a man working to improve the US economy be branded a bad person/problem/traitor.

For what it's worth the EB-5 program is notoriously rife with fraud, although not in the way that I suspect Trump supporters think. The basic premise of the program, as I understand it, is that it grants visas to foreigners who agree to invest a certain amount in the United States. Unscrupulous individuals take advantage of the program by saying to foreign citizens essentially "invest $X in my company and I'll help you get a visa", then they pocket the money and do nothing. Foreign victims tend to have limited recourse as a practical matter because they are halfway around the world, don't know the proper law enforcement channels, and have little to no money left.

However, EB-5 generally is a legitimate, official program, so there's no particular reason to think that anyone who works in it is doing anything wrong. I wouldn't be surprised if Breitbart didn't start pushing that angle, though the obvious explanation for taking down the website is the presumable deluge of trolls that he's no doubt seeing.

So what you're saying is that he's screwing foreigners for the benefit of US businesses.

So...Trump doesn't like the competition?

Honestly I don't know anything about this guy, but that doesn't matter because I'm not holding him up as a paragon of Muslim virtue. He could be a mob boss for all I care.

His son, a Muslim, fought and died for the country that Trump is trying to stop all Muslim immigration to, "for awhile".

That's the entirety of what's important and that can't be smeared into non-existence.

LordMortis wrote:Dammit. I missed my prediction by that >< much. I thought he would have to kick a baby to take it to the next level after going after the parents of dead soldiers. All he just had to do was brazenly insult what I assume is a baby's mother for her parental stupidity. So close.

I don't really see it as an insult (especially since the mother didn't get the hint and stayed in the room while the baby kept crying - she probably would be too stupid to get insulted anyway )

Nothing hints that you should leave like the host telling you it's no problem and you should stay.

This is the age old political strategy at play, "If you can't attack the message, attack the messenger."

malchior wrote:This is as thrilling a mystery as 'why did Melania Trump delete her website?'

Donald forgot to update his credit card on file and the escort agency had no other choice but to have her drop the charade?

El Guapo wrote: However, EB-5 generally is a legitimate, official program, so there's no particular reason to think that anyone who works in it is doing anything wrong if they're white.

FTFY

Rip wrote:So why did Khan delete his website?

https://web.archive.org/web/20160802121 ... anlaw.com/

Aren't you going to remind us that his own son was personally involved in a Middle East bombing?

Jeez - Drumpf really is all over the place. Won't endorse Ryan or McCain for *their* elections.Way to unite the team!

GreenGoo wrote:So what you're saying is that he's screwing foreigners for the benefit of US businesses.

So...Trump doesn't like the competition?

Honestly I don't know anything about this guy, but that doesn't matter because I'm not holding him up as a paragon of Muslim virtue. He could be a mob boss for all I care.

His son, a Muslim, fought and died for the country that Trump is trying to stop all Muslim immigration to, "for awhile".

That's the entirety of what's important and that can't be smeared into non-existence.

I'm saying that some people are screwing foreigners for the benefit of themselves. Otherwise I agree.

malchior wrote:Jeez - Drumpf really is all over the place. Won't endorse Ryan or McCain for *their* elections.Way to unite the team!

Not only that, but he's given a shout-out to Ryan's primary opponent. Who I understand is an insane lunatic who has no chance, but who has said nice things about Trump, which is all the qualification that Trump needs.

Being that close to the Iron Throne has brought out Tywin Trump's baser side. He will brook no insolence from his subjects!

malchior wrote:Jeez - Drumpf really is all over the place. Won't endorse Ryan or McCain for *their* elections.Way to unite the team!

How would he endorse Ryan, when he already endorsed Nehlen? Ryan has done much to prevent Trump from winning and Nehlen is in agreement with Trump on immigration. So wouldn't endorsing Ryan be a total dumbass move?

El Guapo wrote:

malchior wrote:Jeez - Drumpf really is all over the place. Won't endorse Ryan or McCain for *their* elections.Way to unite the team!

Not only that, but he's given a shout-out to Ryan's primary opponent. Who I understand is an insane lunatic who has no chance, but who has said nice things about Trump, which is all the qualification that Trump needs.

Nehlen is going to win.

Rip wrote:

malchior wrote:Jeez - Drumpf really is all over the place. Won't endorse Ryan or McCain for *their* elections.Way to unite the team!

How would he endorse Ryan, when he already endorsed Nehlen? Ryan has done much to prevent Trump from winning and Nehlen is in agreement with Trump on immigration. So wouldn't endorsing Ryan be a total dumbass move?

Trump has not endorsed Nehlen. He has said nice things about him, though, in response to Nehlen saying nice things about Trump.

Rip wrote:

El Guapo wrote:

malchior wrote:Jeez - Drumpf really is all over the place. Won't endorse Ryan or McCain for *their* elections.Way to unite the team!

Not only that, but he's given a shout-out to Ryan's primary opponent. Who I understand is an insane lunatic who has no chance, but who has said nice things about Trump, which is all the qualification that Trump needs.

Nehlen is going to win.

Honestly, I hope so, but I doubt I will be so lucky. There don't appear to be independent polls on the race since May, per RCP and google, but those showed Ryan up by a smidge.

The ridiculous power struggle that'll ensue if yet another House leader is Tea Partied...will be interesting.

hepcat wrote:

malchior wrote:This is as thrilling a mystery as 'why did Melania Trump delete her website?'

Donald forgot to update his credit card on file and the escort agency had no other choice but to have her drop the charade?

I would think all that White-Out would ruin her monitor.

malchior wrote:The ridiculous power struggle that'll ensue if yet another House leader is Tea Partied...will be interesting.

Don't get your hopes up. It looks like the only poll favorable to him is from a pro-Trump fake news site.

malchior wrote:The ridiculous power struggle that'll ensue if yet another House leader is Trumped...will be interesting.

Mortoned.

It's hard to know whether any given thing that Trump does is strategic or an impulse, but someone pointed out on Twitter that one upshot of Trump refusing to endorse Ayotte, McCain, or Ryan is that they're all people who might plausible withdraw their endorsement and who doing so would be devastating, but that now if they do so it will look like they're just doing so as a petty response to Trump (not on the merits).

Air Force mom asks Pence on why he tolerates Trump's disrespect of the military, immediately gets booed by Trump supporters.

How dare she question Dear Leader?!

My favorite part of that was the guy yelling "don't politicize the military," as if the military and its use wasn't inherently political.

Or hasn't explicitly been politicized by the GOP for 30+ years. It's bizarro land.

Also that Mom who got booed - still voting for Trump..

When asked by NBC News how she would vote in November, however, the woman responded: "I'm still supporting Drumpf, but it's not good what he said."

My 7 year old daughter has declared that Donald Drumpf says such mean things about people that he should be in So Much Trouble and Permanently Grounded because you can't talk that way. He is Inappropriate!

Good girl.

malchior wrote:Or hasn't explicitly been politicized by the GOP for 30+ years. It's bizarro land.

Also that Mom who got booed - still voting for Trump..

When asked by NBC News how she would vote in November, however, the woman responded: "I'm still supporting Drumpf, but it's not good what he said."

Ah, no, that isn't what the article says:

The crowd booed Byrne as she asked her question. Pence did attempt to quiet the jeers after she spoke, saying, "folks that's what freedom looks like and what freedom sounds like," to a smattering of applause. Byrne's son, 27, has served since high school — having previously deployed to Iraq in 2009 and 2010. He re-enlisted and is now on his second deployment on a base in the United Arab Emirates. "I felt disrespected," Byrne told NBC News after the event, regarding the crowd's overwhelming reaction to her. "And that was what my question was — disrespect toward the military. The crowd as a group booed me."

After the event as Byrne left the venue, a woman passed by her and said, "You're brave for doing what you did." When asked by NBC News how she would vote in November, however, the woman responded: "I'm still supporting Trump, but it's not good what he said."

If Byrne herself is a Democrat ("Byrne said she is active on the Democrats' state central committee in Carson City."), I don't think she will be voting for Trump.

That sentence is terrible, though - I had to read it five times to be clear on which woman was voting for Trump.

I was going to say the same thing (sentence was horrible) - *and* - I totally missed the text after the video entirely since I thought the video was the bottom of the article. *SHAKES FIST AT NBC NEWS*

hepcat wrote:Trump gets a purple heart from a veteran.

Nothing trivializes heroic action in combat like handing a purple heart to a guy who got five deferments and called an American POW a loser for getting caught.

I wonder what his popularity is like with the military? It can't be good, can it? Well, beyond tea party nut jobs, that is.

I have watched the video and read the comments from Trump, and I truly cannot comprehend Trump's comments:

"You know, something very nice just happened to me," Trump said shortly after taking the stage in Ashburn, Virginia. "A man came up to me and he handed me his Purple Heart. Now I said to him, I said to him, 'Is that like the real one or is that a copy?' And he said, 'That's my real Purple Heart, I have such confidence in you.' And I said, 'Man, that's like, that's like big stuff.'"

He then riffed: "I always wanted to get the Purple Heart. This was much easier."

Is it possible Trump doesn't know what a Purple Heart is awarded for?

The real question is "How many days will it be until he believes that his Purple Heart backs up his claim to have made great sacrifices for his country?"

I would give him one of my good conduct medals but that would be rather silly wouldn't it?

McCain should offer Trump his POW medal.

I never served in the military, but I've got a basket weaving merit badge I'd be willing to give to Trump.