That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons bring us some web forums whereupon we can gather
http://garbi.online/forum/
We had a township.Zarathud wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:54 pm Did you have a neighborhood? Or maybe you were raised by the farm animals.
At least it wasn't wolves like Hepcat.
I live upstairs. Half of the time when I throw something out, it's on my way to the car to leave, so no, I don't wash my hands. Besides, trash doesn't normally touch the lid handles, and our trash trucks use robotic arms to dump them.Sudy wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:50 am
#2, what kind of monster doesn't wash their hands after touching their garbage/recycling bins, even during normal times?! Or is this just my mysophobia speaking?
Sudy wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:50 am
#2, what kind of monster doesn't wash their hands after touching their garbage/recycling bins, even during normal times?! Or is this just my mysophobia speaking?
+1Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:50 amSudy wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:50 am
#2, what kind of monster doesn't wash their hands after touching their garbage/recycling bins, even during normal times?! Or is this just my mysophobia speaking?
+1pr0ner wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:50 am+1Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:50 amSudy wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:50 am
#2, what kind of monster doesn't wash their hands after touching their garbage/recycling bins, even during normal times?! Or is this just my mysophobia speaking?
I am the only one that touches my trash and recycling bin handles and I have an unimpaired immune system bolstered by raising two boys. I'm ok with a certain risk level.Sudy wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:01 pm Germs are real, guys. Or do robot arms operate your bathrooms too?
Look, there's nothing soap and water can do that a poorly constructed giant robot arm can't do.Sudy wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:01 pm Germs are real, guys. Or do robot arms operate your bathrooms too?
I'm talking about pathogens found in and near decaying organics though, not other people's hands on your bin handles.coopasonic wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:08 pm I am the only one that touches my trash and recycling bin handles and I have an unimpaired immune system bolstered by raising two boys. I'm ok with a certain risk level.
Yes, do not disqualify germ magic superstition. It is the buffer that will keep us safe.ImLawBoy wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:18 pm Plus, I always imagine the germs from the garbage itself working its way up and around the rest of the bin by some kind of germ magic.
Same. There's tons of insects where I live as well, a little hand sanitizer goes a long way, which we have a lot of around the inside of the house.ImLawBoy wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:18 pm I usually wash my hands after taking out the trash. Our bins sit in the alley where they can be scurried on by rodents (more than once I've opened a bin and tossed a bag on a surprised rat), and the sanitation folks still have to move the bins to get them to the point where the mechanical arms can do their work. Plus, I always imagine the germs from the garbage itself working its way up and around the rest of the bin by some kind of germ magic. I'm far from a germaphobe, but it just seems like a good practice to wash my hands after handling garbage and garbage bins.
Indeed, and you're lugging around three to five pounds of 'em right now, y'filthy degenerate!
popsci.com wrote:How much bacteria do people carry around?
Enough to fill a big soup can. "That's three to five pounds of bacteria," says Lita Proctor, the program coordinator of the National Institutes of Health's Human Microbiome Project, which studies the communities of bacteria living on and in us. The bacteria cells in our body outnumber human cells 10 to 1, she says, but because they are much smaller than human cells, they account for only about 1 to 2 percent of our body mass—though they do make up about half of our body's waste.
The host of bacteria we carry around weren't well-cataloged until recently. In July 2011, at North Carolina State University, the Belly Button Biodiversity study found about 1,400 different strains of bacteria living in the navels of 95 participants. Of these, 662 strains were previously unrecognized.
That 10:1 ratio has been discredited. It's based on a 1972 estimation looking at the quantity in fecal matter and assuming the entire intestine is the same concentration when in reality the bateria on live in the much shorter colon. Article in Nature.Anonymous Bosch wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:10 pmIndeed, and you're lugging around three to five pounds of 'em right now, y'filthy degenerate!
popsci.com wrote:How much bacteria do people carry around?
Enough to fill a big soup can. "That's three to five pounds of bacteria," says Lita Proctor, the program coordinator of the National Institutes of Health's Human Microbiome Project, which studies the communities of bacteria living on and in us. The bacteria cells in our body outnumber human cells 10 to 1, she says, but because they are much smaller than human cells, they account for only about 1 to 2 percent of our body mass—though they do make up about half of our body's waste.
The host of bacteria we carry around weren't well-cataloged until recently. In July 2011, at North Carolina State University, the Belly Button Biodiversity study found about 1,400 different strains of bacteria living in the navels of 95 participants. Of these, 662 strains were previously unrecognized.
Be that as it may, the relevant point here is that Sudy remains a bacteria-laden vessel of filthy degeneracy by design.stessier wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:41 pm That 10:1 ratio has been discredited. It's based on a 1972 estimation looking at the quantity in fecal matter and assuming the entire intestine is the same concentration when in reality the bateria on live in the much shorter colon. Article in Nature.
my brother is this way. he is easily triggered and it's amusing to do so
Indeed, to quote a professor of immunology and surgery at Columbia University Vagelos College of Physicians and Surgeons and assistant professor of pediatrics in the op-ed they wrote for the NYT discussing the unintended immunological consequences of the global response to the COVID-19 pandemic:gbasden wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:26 pm This reminds me of the old discussion about how often towels get washed, and the horror levels from the people who wash them daily at the people that wash them monthly.
I tend to fall under the "what doesn't kill me makes me stronger" philosophy, so I normally make a point of washing after I use the bathroom, before I cook, and if I had to touch something icky.
nytimes.com wrote:During the Covid-19 pandemic, the world is unwittingly conducting what amounts to the largest immunological experiment in history on our own children. We have been keeping children inside, relentlessly sanitizing their living spaces and their hands and largely isolating them. In doing so, we have prevented large numbers of them from becoming infected or transmitting the virus. But in the course of social distancing to mitigate the spread, we may also be unintentionally inhibiting the proper development of children’s immune systems….Immunological memory and tolerance learned during childhood serves as the basis for immunity and health throughout adulthood.
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Memory T cells begin to form during the first years of life and accumulate during childhood. However, for memory T cells to become functionally mature, multiple exposures may be necessary, particularly for cells residing in tissues such as the lung and intestines, where we encounter numerous pathogens. These exposures typically and naturally occur during the everyday experiences of childhood — such as interactions with friends, teachers, trips to the playground, sports — all of which have been curtailed or shut down entirely during efforts to mitigate viral spread. As a result, we are altering the frequency, breadth and degree of exposures that are crucial for immune memory development.
While the immune system is influenced by multiple factors, including genetics and everyday exposures to family members and pets, the long term effects of removing the social system that brings children in contact with other people, places and things remains uncharted territory. However, there is now substantial evidence that antigen exposure during the formative period of childhood is important not only for protection but also for reducing the incidence of allergies, asthma and inflammatory diseases. A well-known theory, called the “hygiene hypothesis,” proposes that the increased incidence of allergies and other immune disorders involving inappropriate immune reactions across industrialized societies is a result of the move away from agrarian society toward a highly sanitized urban setting.
Failing to train our immune systems properly can have serious consequences. When laboratory mice raised in nearly sterile conditions were housed together in the same cage with pet mice raised in standard conditions, some of the laboratory mice succumbed to pathogens that the pet mice were able to fight off. Additional studies of the microbiome — the bacteria that normally inhabit our intestines and other sites — have shown that mice raised in germ-free conditions or in the presence of antibiotics had reduced and altered immune responses to many types of pathogens. These studies suggest that for establishing a healthy immune system, the more diverse and frequent the encounters with antigens, the better.
Clinical trials have already demonstrated the effect of antigen exposure or avoidance in early childhood on subsequent immune responses. Introduction of peanuts to infants resulted in reduced incidence of peanut allergy, while avoidance had the opposite effect of promoting unwanted, severe allergic immune responses to peanuts. These findings further suggest that exposure during the formative years is critical for developing an immune system that responds appropriately to pathogens while tolerating harmless antigens.
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The sooner we can safely restore the normal experiences of childhood, interacting with other children and — paradoxically — with pathogens and diverse microorganisms, the better we can ensure their ability to thrive as adults in this changing world.
If memory serves, there was a whole sci-fi show based around the concept of people living in space, in a sterile environment, being bad for them in the long run and children were dying because of it. Can't remember the name of it.Anonymous Bosch wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:29 pmIndeed, to quote a professor of immunology and surgery at Columbia University Vagelos College of Physicians and Surgeons and assistant professor of pediatrics in the op-ed they wrote for the NYT discussing the unintended immunological consequences of the global response to the COVID-19 pandemic
The only time I'm super diligent about washing my hands is after bowel movements and handling raw meat when cooking.gbasden wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:26 pm This reminds me of the old discussion about how often towels get washed, and the horror levels from the people who wash them daily at the people that wash them monthly.
I tend to fall under the "what doesn't kill me makes me stronger" philosophy, so I normally make a point of washing after I use the bathroom, before I cook, and if I had to touch something icky.
flush the toilet with the lid closed!Sudy wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:51 pm
And yeah, I know there's MRSA on most people's phones regardless, and flushing the toilet sends poop particles flying everywhere. There's an admitted congnitive dissonance, or else we'd be paralyzed. I just try not to willfully infect myself after coming into contact with problem surfaces. Being sick sucks.
A new study shows coronavirus may actually hide in the brain, where it could reactivate down the road.
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/new-st ... XR2QY5BEE/“It’s hard for a virus to hide in your lungs. It’s much easier for the virus to hide in your central nervous system,” said Kumar.
Signs of this are evident with loss of taste and smell common in people infected with COVID-19. That is an attack on the central nervous system through the brain.
The GSU team monitored the diverse symptoms in the mice and noted brain infection mostly caused their death, not lung infection. They believe this can also be true in certain human cases.
Not when I poop at work, no.
While I am a firm believer in the old adage, "The boss makes a dollar, I make a dime so I poop on company time." I am blessed to work "on the road" so I just go home when so moved. Bowel moved that is...
Absolutely astounding to see this.I would attribute the huge drop in flu cases (e.g., https://cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm) not just to masks, but also distancing, avoiding crowds, improving ventilation, handwashing. I'm willing to bet that mechanism of transmission is very similar between flu and COVID-19.