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Isgrimnur wrote:I don't get the feeling that Trumpaloo loyalty extends to picking up arms in his defense.

Clint Eastwood, the 86-year-old four-time Oscar winner, excoriated the current generation of Americans as weak and overly sensitive while backing Donald Trump even though the Republican presidential hopeful has "said a lot of dumb things." Eastwood, a prominent celebrity supporter of the Republican Party who appeared at its 2012 presidential nominating convention, offered a harsh assessment of Americans in an interview with Esquire magazine published on Wednesday. "He's onto something because secretly everybody's getting tired of political correctness, kissing up," the acclaimed actor and director said of Trump. "That's the kiss-ass generation we're in right now. We're really in a pussy generation. Everybody's walking on eggshells." "We see people accusing people of being racist and all kinds of stuff. When I grew up, those things weren't called racist," Eastwood added. Given the choice between Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton and Trump in the Nov. 8 election, Eastwood said, "That's a tough one, isn't it? I'd have to go for Trump ... you know, 'cause she's declared that she's gonna follow in Obama's footsteps."

First, I didn't say that.

Max Peck wrote:When I grew up, those things weren't called racist," Eastwood added.

ESQ: Your characters have become touchstones in the culture, whether it's Reagan invoking "Make my day" or now Trump … I swear he's even practiced your scowl.

CE: Maybe. But he's onto something, because secretly everybody's getting tired of political correctness, kissing up. That's the kiss-ass generation we're in right now. We're really in a pussy generation. Everybody's walking on eggshells. We see people accusing people of being racist and all kinds of stuff. When I grew up, those things weren't called racist. And then when I did Gran Torino, even my associate said, "This is a really good script, but it's politically incorrect." And I said, "Good. Let me read it tonight." The next morning, I came in and I threw it on his desk and I said, "We're starting this immediately."

ESQ: What is the "pussy generation"?

CE: All these people that say, "Oh, you can't do that, and you can't do this, and you can't say that." I guess it's just the times.

ESQ: What do you think Trump is onto?

CE: What Trump is onto is he's just saying what's on his mind. And sometimes it's not so good. And sometimes it's … I mean, I can understand where he's coming from, but I don't always agree with it.

ESQ: So you're not endorsing him?

CE: I haven't endorsed anybody. I haven't talked to Trump. I haven't talked to anybody. You know, he's a racist now because he's talked about this judge. And yeah, it's a dumb thing to say. I mean, to predicate your opinion on the fact that the guy was born to Mexican parents or something. He's said a lot of dumb things. So have all of them. Both sides. But everybody—the press and everybody's going, "Oh, well, that's racist," and they're making a big hoodoo out of it. Just fucking get over it. It's a sad time in history.

ESQ: What troubles you the most?

CE: We're not really … what troubles me is … I guess when I did that silly thing at the Republican convention, talking to the chair …

ESQ: I didn't say it was silly.

CE: It was silly at the time, but I was standing backstage and I'm hearing everybody say the same thing: "Oh, this guy's a great guy." Great, he's a great guy. I've got to say something more. And so I'm listening to an old Neil Diamond thing and he's going, "And no one heard at all / Not even the chair." And I'm thinking, That's Obama. He doesn't go to work. He doesn't go down to Congress and make a deal. What the hell's he doing sitting in the White House? If I were in that job, I'd get down there and make a deal. Sure, Congress are lazy bastards, but so what? You're the top guy. You're the president of the company. It's your responsibility to make sure everybody does well. It's the same with every company in this country, whether it's a two-man company or a two-hundred-man company… . And that's the pussy generation—nobody wants to work.

ESQ: You've campaigned for office. If you were going to write a stump speech for this election, what would you say?

CE: "Knock it off. Knock everything off." All these people out there rattling around the streets and stuff, shit. They're boring everybody. Chesty Puller, a great Marine general, once said, "You can run me, and you can starve me, and you can beat me, and you can kill me, but don't bore me." And that's exactly what's happening now: Everybody is boring everybody. It's boring to listen to all this shit. It's boring to listen to these candidates.

ESQ: What would you like to see change?

CE: I'd say get to work and start being more understanding of everybody—instead of calling everybody names, start being more understanding. But get in there and get it done. Kick ass and take names. And this may be my dad talking, but don't spend what you don't have. That's why we're in the position we are in right now. That's why people are saying, "Why should I work? I'll get something for nothing, maybe." And going around and talking about going to college for free. I didn't go to college for free. I mean, it was cheap, because I went to L. A. City College—it wasn't like going to a major university. But it was okay. And then, you know, I didn't finish, because I decided to become an actor, ruin my whole life. [Everyone laughs.]

ESQ: What do you think of Hillary?

CE: What about her? I mean, it's a tough voice to listen to for four years. It could be a tough one. If she's just gonna follow what we've been doing, then I wouldn't be for her.

ESQ: But if the choice is between her and Trump, what do you do?

CE: That's a tough one, isn't it? I'd have to go for Trump … you know, 'cause she's declared that she's gonna follow in Obama's footsteps. There's been just too much funny business on both sides of the aisle. She's made a lot of dough out of being a politician. I gave up dough to be a politician. I'm sure that Ronald Reagan gave up dough to be a politician.

tgb wrote: Trump isn't going to allow himself to be crushed. He couldn't abide such a thing. If the numbers don't turn around as the day gets closer, look for him to drop out, using "rigged" elections as the excuse.

In a controversial policy that could tip the swing state’s scales in favor of Republicans in November, Ohio has removed tens of thousands of registered voters from the rolls because they have not cast a ballot since 2008.

According to a Reuters investigation, in Ohio’s three biggest counties, voters have been taken off the rolls in neighborhoods that trend Democratic at roughly twice the rate as in Republican-leaning neighborhoods. At least 144,000 voters have lost their registration in those three counties alone, Reuters reports. Voters who have lost their registration must re-register at least 30 days prior to election day on November 8.

Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted, a Republican, says canceling registrations for voters who missed three straight federal elections helps keep voting rolls current. Since 2011, the state has cleared out more than 2 million records of people who have moved or died, he said.

Isgrimnur wrote:I don't get the feeling that Trumpaloo loyalty extends to picking up arms in his defense.

El Guapo wrote:This is bound to be awkward. Looks like Donald might have to deport Melania.

When Slovenia sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing gold-diggers. They’re bringing plagiarists. They’re bringing college dropouts claiming to be graduates. And some, I assume, are good people.

Holman wrote:Trump supporters at Pennsylvania rally chant "USA! USA!" while protester is beaten.

Video at link.

RunningMn9 wrote:.

To quote comedian Bill Burr...

em2nought wrote:

Holman wrote:Trump supporters at Pennsylvania rally chant "USA! USA!" while protester is beaten.

Video at link.

It looks like he got exactly what he went there to get.

tgb wrote:

em2nought wrote:

Holman wrote:Trump supporters at Pennsylvania rally chant "USA! USA!" while protester is beaten.

Video at link.

It looks like he got exactly what he went there to get.

Are you out of your fucking mind? Seriously. Are you insane?

tgb wrote:

em2nought wrote:

Holman wrote:Trump supporters at Pennsylvania rally chant "USA! USA!" while protester is beaten.

Video at link.

It looks like he got exactly what he went there to get.

Are you out of your fucking mind? Seriously. Are you insane?

em2nought wrote:

tgb wrote:

em2nought wrote:

Holman wrote:Trump supporters at Pennsylvania rally chant "USA! USA!" while protester is beaten.

Video at link.

It looks like he got exactly what he went there to get.

Are you out of your fucking mind? Seriously. Are you insane?

I didn't say he got what he deserved, I said he got exactly what he intended to get. ...and it doesn't happen at those other rallies because Trump supporters don't go to other peoples rallies, much less going with an agenda, unless I missed some media reporting it which just wouldn't be possible.

tgb wrote: So you're saying that his intent was to get a good ass-kicking?

Christ on a cracker, you're unbelievable.

tgb wrote:

em2nought wrote:

tgb wrote:

em2nought wrote:

Holman wrote:Trump supporters at Pennsylvania rally chant "USA! USA!" while protester is beaten.

Video at link.

It looks like he got exactly what he went there to get.

Are you out of your fucking mind? Seriously. Are you insane?

I didn't say he got what he deserved, I said he got exactly what he intended to get. ...and it doesn't happen at those other rallies because Trump supporters don't go to other peoples rallies, much less going with an agenda, unless I missed some media reporting it which just wouldn't be possible.

So you're saying that his intent was to get a good ass-kicking?

Christ on a cracker, you're unbelievable.

tjg_marantz wrote:Once Trump loses, in having a hard time figuring out how he's going to stay in business. He's pissing so many people off, it's gotta affect him after. Or he'll just find more businessmen without scruples I guess.

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GreenGoo wrote: Those that aren't are either not paying attention, like YK's mom, or are glad to finally be able to voice their hatred in a supportive environment. Or are anarchists, I guess.

Enough wrote:

El Guapo wrote:This is bound to be awkward. Looks like Donald might have to deport Melania.

A comment I stole from the Bloomberg article on this,

When Slovenia sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing gold-diggers. They’re bringing plagiarists. They’re bringing college dropouts claiming to be graduates. And some, I assume, are good people.

YellowKing wrote:He's backpedaling big-time now - yet another campaign fiasco. We're still three months out, and he's fucking up on a nearly daily basis. All I can say is:

Lawbeefaroni wrote:If you're already leaning towards Trump, no amount of daily fuckups will matter.

tgb wrote:

em2nought wrote:

tgb wrote:

em2nought wrote:

Holman wrote:Trump supporters at Pennsylvania rally chant "USA! USA!" while protester is beaten.

Video at link.

It looks like he got exactly what he went there to get.

Are you out of your fucking mind? Seriously. Are you insane?

I didn't say he got what he deserved, I said he got exactly what he intended to get. ...and it doesn't happen at those other rallies because Trump supporters don't go to other peoples rallies, much less going with an agenda, unless I missed some media reporting it which just wouldn't be possible.

So you're saying that his intent was to get a good ass-kicking?

Christ on a cracker, you're unbelievable.

LawBeefaroni wrote:He's like the walking embodiment of confirmation bias.

LordMortis wrote:

LawBeefaroni wrote:He's like the walking embodiment of confirmation bias.

As is Clinton. As was Bernie. The problem with Drumpf's confirmation bias beyond the others is that too many of its roots are in violence and flat out vitriol.

em2nought wrote:

tgb wrote:

em2nought wrote:

tgb wrote:

em2nought wrote:

Holman wrote:Trump supporters at Pennsylvania rally chant "USA! USA!" while protester is beaten.

Video at link.

It looks like he got exactly what he went there to get.

Are you out of your fucking mind? Seriously. Are you insane?

I didn't say he got what he deserved, I said he got exactly what he intended to get. ...and it doesn't happen at those other rallies because Trump supporters don't go to other peoples rallies, much less going with an agenda, unless I missed some media reporting it which just wouldn't be possible.

So you're saying that his intent was to get a good ass-kicking?

Christ on a cracker, you're unbelievable.

No, his intent was to get a good "publicized" ass-kicking. A small sacrifice for his cause.

malchior wrote:

LordMortis wrote:

LawBeefaroni wrote:He's like the walking embodiment of confirmation bias.

As is Clinton. As was Bernie. The problem with Drumpf's confirmation bias beyond the others is that too many of its roots are in violence and flat out vitriol.

And ignorance and a smattering of actual flat out stupidity.

A former top CIA official attacked Donald Trump on Friday as a danger to national security, saying President Vladimir Putin had made the Republican presidential candidate an "unwitting agent" of Russia. Putin had flattered Trump into supporting positions favorable to Russia, Michael Morell, a longtime CIA officer and former deputy director of the agency, said in an opinion piece in The New York Times. "In the intelligence business, we would say that Mr. Putin had recruited Mr. Trump as an unwitting agent of the Russian Federation," Morell said, in an article in which he endorsed Trump's rival in the Nov. 8 election, Democrat Hillary Clinton. Morell did not provide evidence for his assertion, but he said Putin had used skills from his past as an intelligence officer to identify and exploit vulnerabilities in an individual. "That is exactly what he did early in the primaries. Mr. Putin played upon Mr. Trump’s vulnerabilities by complimenting him. He responded just as Mr. Putin had calculated," Morell wrote.

Trump's campaign dismissed Morell's criticism, linking the ex-CIA officer to the Obama administration's public response after the September 2012 attacks in Benghazi, Libya. "Count how many reporters will tweet today that Michael Morell lied for #CrookedHillary to cover up Benghazi," Trump's campaign said in a Twitter message.

LordMortis wrote:

malchior wrote:

LordMortis wrote:

LawBeefaroni wrote:He's like the walking embodiment of confirmation bias.

As is Clinton. As was Bernie. The problem with Drumpf's confirmation bias beyond the others is that too many of its roots are in violence and flat out vitriol.

And ignorance and a smattering of actual flat out stupidity.

I see those as common to all three.