It's funny how every single time this happens, Russia admits that it happened, but then insists that they actually shot the drone down and the debris ignited the munitions.
I guess when you can see the flames from orbit, it's tough to go all Potemkin Village and make like nothing happened at all.
Even if they weren't lying through their clenched teeth, it would still raise the question of why their air defenses are only shooting down the drones over the target instead of as soon as they cross the border.
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Alefroth wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 1:34 am
It's definitely not the flex they think it is.
I could enjoy this firework show every day.
If Biden unlocks long range for US-supplied weapons, you will see it more often. Attacks like this are how Ukraine can achieve parity in the stalemate, and that's when negotiations can start.
The locations of all of these major arsenals are well known -- you can find them on Google Maps if you know where to look. It's really just a matter or whether Ukraine has enough weapons with the range to reach them and is able to continue to penetrate Russian air defences.
Within 750 km of Ukraine, there are six Russian GRAU arsenals, similar to the one in Toropets, which stored thousands of tons of ammunition, according to Defense Express. Russia has about two dozen large arsenals, most located in its European part. Six of these are within the range of 750 km, which is the distance that the Ukrainian "Palianytsia" drone can cover. These six arsenals are located in Tver, Novgorod, Vladimir (two), Bryansk regions, and North Ossetia.
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Answering a question that arose in my mind after the mega-explosion a few days ago:
Col. Ants Kiviselg, head of Estonia’s military intelligence center, told journalists Friday that “30,000 tons of explosive ordnance were detonated” in the attack, the equivalent of about 750,000 shells.
“That’s two to three months’ supply of ammunition” for Russian forces in Ukraine, he noted. “As a result of this attack, Russia has suffered losses in ammunition, and we will see the impact of these losses on the front in the coming weeks.”
Kraken wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 11:13 am
Answering a question that arose in my mind after the mega-explosion a few days ago:
Col. Ants Kiviselg, head of Estonia’s military intelligence center, told journalists Friday that “30,000 tons of explosive ordnance were detonated” in the attack, the equivalent of about 750,000 shells.
“That’s two to three months’ supply of ammunition” for Russian forces in Ukraine, he noted. “As a result of this attack, Russia has suffered losses in ammunition, and we will see the impact of these losses on the front in the coming weeks.”
I was also curious about this, as I can't exactly compute any kind of relativity based on the impressive visual, except: "that's a big ass 'splosion"
A lot of it would be due to the initial explosions causing fires that heat up the ammunition stockpiles, which then start to cook off, causing secondary explosions that keep the cycle going. It's the same sort of thing you see when a tank is hit and burns, with the heat from the fire causing the onboard munitions to explode, but on a much larger scale.
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Max Peck wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 1:12 pm
A lot of it would be due to the initial explosions causing fires that heat up the ammunition stockpiles, which then start to cook off, causing secondary explosions that keep the cycle going. It's the same sort of thing you see when a tank is hit and burns, with the heat from the fire causing the onboard munitions to explode, but on a much larger scale.
Yeah, burning and exploding ordnance burns and explodes more ordnance.
Which is why NATO builds their equivalent stockpiles spread out and walled off from other stockpiles, similar to how they design their tank ammunition stowage to prevent catastrophic turret ejection and preserve the lives of the crew.
Max Peck wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 1:12 pm
A lot of it would be due to the initial explosions causing fires that heat up the ammunition stockpiles, which then start to cook off, causing secondary explosions that keep the cycle going. It's the same sort of thing you see when a tank is hit and burns, with the heat from the fire causing the onboard munitions to explode, but on a much larger scale.
Yeah, burning and exploding ordnance burns and explodes more ordnance.
Which is why NATO builds their equivalent stockpiles spread out and walled off from other stockpiles, similar to how they design their tank ammunition stowage to prevent catastrophic turret ejection and preserve the lives of the crew.
Which NATO can afford to do because they use forklifts, pallets, rollers, and well maintained trucks which neutralize any disadvantages of having smaller, more dispersed stockpiles. Russia can't afford to do that because they are still stuck using chain gangs and supply by rail.
Safe to assume Trumps comments are completely senile?
Like his assertion that Ukraine is using young children and old men because they are running out of soldiers? If he said Russia was doing it I'd be more inclined to believe it but figured I'd ask here just to be sure.
Trump is dumb enough to repeat what Putin said, and Putin will say anything because nobody around him would fact-check him (much like Trump), so Putin would simply reverse the truth and claim Zelensky of doing things that Putin was doing.
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Former President Donald J. Trump has secretly spoken with President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia as many as seven times since leaving office, even as he was pressuring Republicans to block military aid to Ukraine to fight Russian invaders, according to a new book by the journalist Bob Woodward.
Link to NYT article (paywalled) at link.
Black Lives definitely Matter Lorini!
Also: There are three ways to not tell the truth: lies, damned lies, and statistics.
Former President Donald J. Trump has secretly spoken with President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia as many as seven times since leaving office, even as he was pressuring Republicans to block military aid to Ukraine to fight Russian invaders, according to a new book by the journalist Bob Woodward.
Link to NYT article (paywalled) at link.
All I know is that American institutions have done a bang up job holding Trump accountable for his misdeeds, and I expect that this will be no exception.
Trump also secretly sent Putin COVID tests — when they were rare and hard to get — while in office.
Putin said to Trump at the time: "I don't want you to tell anybody because people will get mad at you, not me."
Keep avoiding those COVID-19 shots you MAGA idiots.
All I know is that American institutions have done a bang up job holding Trump accountable for his misdeeds, and I expect that this will be no exception.
Oh, for sure. THIS will totally be the thing that makes people not vote for him.
Trump also secretly sent Putin COVID tests — when they were rare and hard to get — while in office.
Putin said to Trump at the time: "I don't want you to tell anybody because people will get mad at you, not me."
Keep avoiding those COVID-19 shots you MAGA idiots.
All I know is that American institutions have done a bang up job holding Trump accountable for his misdeeds, and I expect that this will be no exception.
Oh, for sure. THIS will totally be the thing that makes people not vote for him.
I don't have much of an issue with the Covid tests, but conducting diplomacy to torpedo US policy?
A very treasonous smell is coming from Mar-a-lago.
Black Lives definitely Matter Lorini!
Also: There are three ways to not tell the truth: lies, damned lies, and statistics.
It's super that he was sending him tests. But when he was doing that, he was also downplaying how serious it was in the United States and refusing to encourage people to vaccinate and mask.
But behind the scenes? Taking all the drugs, doing all the vaccinations and hoarding all the tests - to also share with Russian dictators.
Also:
Woodward also recounts a meeting that Graham, the South Carolina senator, had with the crown prince in March.
“Hey, let’s call Trump,” Graham said to MBS while visiting with the Saudi leader in March.
What happened next offers a fascinating window into how the Saudi leader operates and communicates with various world leaders and government officials. Woodward writes that bin Salman had an aide bring over a bag with about 50 burner phones, pulling out one labeled “TRUMP 45.”
Among the others in the bag, Woodward writes, was a burner labeled “JAKE SULLIVAN.”
Smoove_B wrote: ↑Tue Oct 08, 2024 12:12 pm
It's super that he was sending him tests. But when he was doing that, he was also downplaying how serious it was in the United States and refusing to encourage people to vaccinate and mask.
But behind the scenes? Taking all the drugs, doing all the vaccinations and hoarding all the tests - to also share with Russian dictators.
Also:
Woodward also recounts a meeting that Graham, the South Carolina senator, had with the crown prince in March.
“Hey, let’s call Trump,” Graham said to MBS while visiting with the Saudi leader in March.
What happened next offers a fascinating window into how the Saudi leader operates and communicates with various world leaders and government officials. Woodward writes that bin Salman had an aide bring over a bag with about 50 burner phones, pulling out one labeled “TRUMP 45.”
Among the others in the bag, Woodward writes, was a burner labeled “JAKE SULLIVAN.”
I have to think that because of these clandestine bullshit meetings someone managed to get something on Graham to make him a puppet that will do anything for Trump.
U.S. actor and Russian propagandist Steven Seagal said in a new documentary released on Oct. 10 that he was ready to fight for Russian President Vladimir Putin and "die if need be."
Seagal, who gained fame as an action star in the 1980s and 1990s, became enamored with Russia and Putin as his Hollywood career waned. He has nonetheless continued to make a long string of low-budget, direct-to-TV films.
The actor and martial artist gained Russian citizenship in 2016, and was subsequently named by Russia's Foreign Ministry as a "Special Representative for Russia-U.S. Cultural Links, Cultural and Historical Heritage in a voluntary capacity" in 2018. He reportedly relocated to Moscow in 2021 to escape fines from the U.S. government. Seagal has also been accused of sexual assault by multiple women.
Seagal has repeatedly praised Russia since the beginning of the full-scale invasion of Ukraine and was one of the few Western "celebrities" to attend Putin's inauguration to his fifth term in office in May 2024.
In Seagal's new documentary, entitled "In the Name of Justice" and shared on the Russian state-run media platform Smotrim, he is shown visiting various occupied territories of Ukraine, including Mariupol.
Seagal is also shown speaking to civilians and sharing Kremlin propaganda talking points with the help of a translator and voiceover, as he does not appear to speak Russian. He also visits Ukrainian prisoners of war (POWs), purported to be Azov fighters.
In one clip, Seagal says that he wrote a letter to Putin, saying, "now we will see who are our true compatriots and friends, and who are our enemies. I will be on the side of my president and I will fight on the side of my president."
There is no indication that the 72-year-old Seagal will actually participate in any military activities, combat or otherwise.
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Former President Donald J. Trump has secretly spoken with President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia as many as seven times since leaving office, even as he was pressuring Republicans to block military aid to Ukraine to fight Russian invaders, according to a new book by the journalist Bob Woodward.
Link to NYT article (paywalled) at link.
It is very unlikely that an American was speaking with Putin or any other Russian official without intelligence agencies listening in.
And if Trump was taking steps to do it "secretly," that itself is a thing.
Former President Donald J. Trump has secretly spoken with President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia as many as seven times since leaving office, even as he was pressuring Republicans to block military aid to Ukraine to fight Russian invaders, according to a new book by the journalist Bob Woodward.
Link to NYT article (paywalled) at link.
It is very unlikely that an American was speaking with Putin or any other Russian official without intelligence agencies listening in.
And if Trump was taking steps to do it "secretly," that itself is a thing.
I expect that Putin requires him to check in periodically.
When two white vapour trails cross the sky near the front line in eastern Ukraine, it tends to mean one thing. Russian jets are about to attack.
But what happened near the city of Kostyantynivka was unprecedented. The lower trail split in two and a new object quickly accelerated towards the other vapour trail until they crossed and a bright orange flash lit up the sky.
Was it, as many believed, a Russian war plane shooting down another in so-called friendly fire 20km (12 miles) from the front line, or a Ukrainian jet shooting down a Russian plane?
Intrigued, Ukrainians soon found out from the fallen debris that they had just witnessed the destruction of Russian’s newest weapon - the S-70 stealth combat drone.
This is no ordinary drone. Named Okhotnik (Hunter), this heavy, unmanned vehicle is as big as a fighter jet but without a cockpit. It is very hard to detect and its developers claim it has “almost no analogy” in the world.
That all may be true, but it clearly went astray, and it appears the second trail seen on the video came from a Russian Su-57 jet, apparently chasing it down.
The Russian plane may have been trying to re-establish the contact with the errant drone, but as they were both flying into a Ukrainian air defence zone, it is assumed a decision was made to destroy the Okhotnik to prevent it ending up in enemy hands.
Neither Moscow nor Kyiv have commented officially on what happened in the skies near Kostyantynivka. But analysts believe the Russians most likely lost control over their drone, possibly due to jamming by Ukraine’s electronic warfare systems.
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U.S. and South Korean officials said Wednesday that there’s evidence North Korea has dispatched troops to Russia in a potential escalation of the nearly 3-year-old war with Ukraine.
If the soldiers’ goal is fighting with Russia in Ukraine, it would be the first time a third country puts boots on the ground in the war. Other countries on both sides of the divide have sent military aid, including weapons and training: Iran has supplied Russia with drones, and Western nations have provided Ukraine with modern weapons and financial and humanitarian assistance.
South Korea’s spy chief told lawmakers that 3,000 North Korean troops are being trained to use equipment including drones before being they’re sent to fight in Ukraine. U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters during a visit to Rome that “we are seeing evidence that there are North Korean troops” that have gone to Russia.
“What exactly they’re doing — left to be seen,” Austin said. Neither Austin nor South Korean National Intelligence Service Director Cho Tae-yong provided details about how they knew about the North Korean troops, and many questions remain about the impact of North Korea’s participation.
The first North Korean troops are expected to arrive in Russia’s Kursk region tomorrow to help defend it against Ukraine’s ongoing incursion, the head of the Ukrainian Defense Intelligence Directorate (GUR) told The War Zone Tuesday. That information comes as Seoul is considering sending advisors and heavy weapons to Ukraine in response to Pyongyang’s deployment to Russia of upwards of 12,000 soldiers, including elite special operations units.
“We are waiting for the first units tomorrow in the Kursk direction,” Lt. Gen. Kyrylo Budanov told us. It is unclear at the moment how many or how they will be equipped. “We will see after a couple of days,” he added.
Alarm about North Korean troop movements to Russia is growing in South Korea. After a meeting to assess the situation, South Korea’s presidential National Security Council said Pyongyang’s deployment poses a “significant security threat” to both South Korea and the international community and is a “blatant violation” of U.N. Security Council resolutions prohibiting military cooperation with North Korea,” the South Korean Yonhap News Agency reported on Tuesday.
“If the illegal military cooperation between North Korea and Russia continues, (South Korea) will not stand by but respond firmly in collaboration with the international community,” Principal Deputy National Security Adviser Kim Tae-hyo said, according to Yonhap. He warned of “phased measures” in response to the level of their military ties.
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Russia keeps sending Ukraine free fertilizer and steel.
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The crash site was reportedly targeted by a Russian Iskander ballistic missile in an apparent attempt to deny Ukraine and its allies access to the wreckage, but crash site footage indicated that by then the wreckage had been recovered by Ukrainian police for further analysis.
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The Norks are imposing parade marchers. Dunno anything about their training or equipment beyond that, but given that they aren't fighting for their homeland I'd be surprised if they're even up to the level of Russian conscripts.
From my readings the Belarus soldier have joined Ukraine now lol
As for the NK guys..I bet they are glad to have good food and dont want to go back home. Run! Run for your freedom boys!
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Rheinmetall to build four weapon manufacturing plants in Ukraine, with one already operational, according to Rheinmetall's director, Armin Papperger.
"We have many good plans. The first plant is already operational. The Ukrainian defense industry is our partner. Currently, we have a production facility and a maintenance facility. By the end of the year, we will have the first state-of-the-art Lynx infantry fighting vehicle in Ukraine. At the moment, we are servicing infantry fighting vehicles as well as main battle tanks. So, this is a very productive joint venture," he stated.
Additionally, according to him, Rheinmetall is on track to build a powder factory and a munitions manufacturing plant in Ukraine.
"The third point is that we want to establish the production of air defense systems so that you can protect yourselves," Papperger noted.
The director also provided details regarding the readiness of these four plants.
"Things are progressing. The first plant is already ready. The second is on its way. And I am now insisting on accelerating all of this because we don't have time; we can't afford to lose it," he emphasized.
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