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You mean 1 less VP?Remus West wrote:Well, I did catch that I did not get as much Indigo as you thought which also meant 1 less Doubloon. You're welcome.El Guapo wrote:Congratulations! Now we know that Vorret is burning a crate of corn rather than a crate of indigo.
edit: plus you missed that I produced a crate of corn too (that later gets burned).
No, I meant 1 less Doubloon during the Craftman phase. I get X-1 Doubloons where X is the highest number of non-corn crates I produce. Producing 1 less Indigo translates to 1 less Doubloon. It also costs me a VP during the Captain phase as I do not have an additional Indigo to fill the boat with.El Guapo wrote:You mean 1 less VP?Remus West wrote:Well, I did catch that I did not get as much Indigo as you thought which also meant 1 less Doubloon. You're welcome.El Guapo wrote:Congratulations! Now we know that Vorret is burning a crate of corn rather than a crate of indigo.
edit: plus you missed that I produced a crate of corn too (that later gets burned).
I withdraw my snark and Vorret thanks you for your efforts, as you earned him 1 VP
Nah, don't worry, I have it covered.Moliere wrote:Did we lose Grundbegriff? As the voice of the people should I be declared the winner with El Guapo as Miss Congeniality?
Isn't "Miss Congeniality" typically given to the one that everybody likes?Moliere wrote:Did we lose Grundbegriff? As the voice of the people should I be declared the winner with El Guapo as Miss Congeniality?
Exactly. Also to the Guapest, typically.Remus West wrote:Isn't "Miss Congeniality" typically given to the one that everybody likes?Moliere wrote:Did we lose Grundbegriff? As the voice of the people should I be declared the winner with El Guapo as Miss Congeniality?
The "Miss" also implies female.......El Guapo wrote:Exactly. Also to the Guapest, typically.Remus West wrote:Isn't "Miss Congeniality" typically given to the one that everybody likes?Moliere wrote:Did we lose Grundbegriff? As the voice of the people should I be declared the winner with El Guapo as Miss Congeniality?
I'm the belle of the ball.Remus West wrote:The "Miss" also implies female.......El Guapo wrote:Exactly. Also to the Guapest, typically.Remus West wrote:Isn't "Miss Congeniality" typically given to the one that everybody likes?Moliere wrote:Did we lose Grundbegriff? As the voice of the people should I be declared the winner with El Guapo as Miss Congeniality?
El Guapo wrote:I'm the belle of the ball.Remus West wrote:The "Miss" also implies female.......El Guapo wrote:Exactly. Also to the Guapest, typically.Remus West wrote:Isn't "Miss Congeniality" typically given to the one that everybody likes?Moliere wrote:Did we lose Grundbegriff? As the voice of the people should I be declared the winner with El Guapo as Miss Congeniality?
On the chance that Moliere is not joking: 4 quarries are good for the fourth column.Moliere wrote:Because the 3rd column of buildings allows you to use 3 quarries. I don't see the value for 4 quarries though.
You already have a noble on your storehouse. Blanks for your new colonist ABMs noble include: Ind farm, tob farm, tob storage, harbor, and lg sugar mill.El Guapo wrote:Colonist to storehouse
Bonus noble (from villa) to harbor
Assuming max production:Vorret wrote:craftman + 1
You get to keep one crate. Sugar or corn?NickAragua wrote:It looks like, on my craftsman phase, I produced a corn, two sugar and two coffee (and a VP).
I will be shipping the coffee for 2 vps, while tossing the corn and sugar to the peasants.
Ah, thanks. Since my bonus noble is going to the harbor, the colonist will go to the tobacco farm.Grundbegriff wrote:You already have a noble on your storehouse. Blanks for your new colonist ABMs noble include: Ind farm, tob farm, tob storage, harbor, and lg sugar mill.El Guapo wrote:Colonist to storehouse
Bonus noble (from villa) to harbor
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[indigo farm_________c] [coffee______________c] [quarry______________c] [coffee______________c]
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[lg market___________c] [lg sugar mill_____NN0] [_____________________] [_____________________]
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[indigo farm_________c] [corn farm___________c] [corn farm___________0] [_____________________]
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At your convenience, but I'll need this since it could make a difference.Grundbegriff wrote:You get to keep one crate. Sugar or corn?NickAragua wrote:It looks like, on my craftsman phase, I produced a corn, two sugar and two coffee (and a VP).
I will be shipping the coffee for 2 vps, while tossing the corn and sugar to the peasants.
For the record, here's how Captain went:Grundbegriff wrote:Assuming max production:Vorret wrote:craftman + 1
Vo: 2tob, 2ind +1ind, 4corn.
Mo: 2cof, 1sug, 3ind.
El: 2tob, 2sug, 1ind, 1corn, 1VP.
Re: 1sug, 2ind (should've been 4 but supply ran out), 1corn.
Ni: 2cof, 2sug, 1corn.
Vo already had an indigo.
Mo already had a sugar.
Re already had an indigo.
Ni already had a sugar.
El Guapo: Missing the fact that supply ran out of indigo crates threw off your calculations. But thank you for trying to carry the ball down the field.
Grundbegriff wrote:Assuming max production:Vorret wrote:craftman + 1
Vo: 2tob, 2ind +1ind, 4corn.
Mo: 2cof, 1sug, 3ind.
El: 2tob, 2sug, 1ind, 1corn, 1VP.
Re: 1sug, 2ind (should've been 4 but supply ran out), 1corn.
Ni: 2cof, 2sug, 1corn.
Vo already had an indigo.
Mo already had a sugar.
Re already had an indigo.
Ni already had a sugar.
El Guapo: Missing the fact that supply ran out of indigo crates threw off your calculations. But thank you for trying to carry the ball down the field.
Shouldn't Vo produce 1 less Indigo then you show and I produce 1 more (and an additional Doubloon - which you didn't list but should be 1 as you show it or 2 as I think it should go) due to this. He doesn't get the extra choice until after everything else. This will also impact the Captain phase.rule wrote:The player who chooses this role takes goods from the supply according to his production ability and places them on the windrose on his player board. Thus, the windrose contains a player’s money, goods, and extra colonists. Next, the other players take goods from the supply according to their abilities, in clockwise order from the craftsman.
See more details on production abilities on page 8 under “The production buildings”.
As his last duty, the craftsman takes one additional good (of those he can produce) from the supply as his privilege
I think you're right. I calculated privilege right out of the gate instead of at the end. I'll fix that.Remus West wrote:Shouldn't Vo produce 1 less Indigo then you show and I produce 1 more (and an additional Doubloon - which you didn't list but should be 1 as you show it or 2 as I think it should go) due to this. He doesn't get the extra choice until after everything else. This will also impact the Captain phase.
Maybe I'm not following the "Nick skips a rock" reference, but Nick ships 2 coffee that turn for 2 VPs.Grundbegriff wrote:For the record, here's how Captain went:Grundbegriff wrote:Assuming max production:Vorret wrote:craftman + 1
Vo: 2tob, 2ind +1ind, 4corn.
Mo: 2cof, 1sug, 3ind.
El: 2tob, 2sug, 1ind, 1corn, 1VP.
Re: 1sug, 2ind (should've been 4 but supply ran out), 1corn.
Ni: 2cof, 2sug, 1corn.
Vo already had an indigo.
Mo already had a sugar.
Re already had an indigo.
Ni already had a sugar.
El Guapo: Missing the fact that supply ran out of indigo crates threw off your calculations. But thank you for trying to carry the ball down the field.
Moliere: +1 db and +1VP as Captain.
Moliere ships 3 indigo. With his harbor, that's 4VP.
El Guapo ships 1 tobacco. With his harbor. Total: 2VP. Tobacco boat is full.
Remus West ships 1 corn and 1 sugar via his Royal Supplier: 2VP. For his turn, Remus ships 3 ind for 3VP. Total: 5VP.
Nick skips a rock across the surface of the water and shuffles away, whistling.
Vorret ships 1 indigo. Total: 1VP. Indigo boat is full.
Moliere ships 2 coffee. With his harbor, that's another 3VP. Coffee boat is full.
Moliere ships 2 sugar via his wharf. With his harbor, that's another 3VP. Total: 11VP.
The ships sail away, sail away, sail away. Empties take their place.
The quarries are covered on the 4th column of the game board so I didn't know if that was an option.Grundbegriff wrote:On the chance that Moliere is not joking: 4 quarries are good for the fourth column.Moliere wrote:Because the 3rd column of buildings allows you to use 3 quarries. I don't see the value for 4 quarries though.
I just assume that I am winning and let the cruel hand of fate tell me otherwise at the end.Grundbegriff wrote:If you are a person who keeps track of his own Victory Point chits, please PM me what you think your current total is. I'd like to do a sanity check as we approach the end of the game.
Can't imagine what you mean.El Guapo wrote:Grundbegriff wrote:For the record, here's how Captain went:Grundbegriff wrote:Assuming max production:Vorret wrote:craftman + 1
Vo: 2tob, 2ind +1ind, 4corn.
Mo: 2cof, 1sug, 3ind.
El: 2tob, 2sug, 1ind, 1corn, 1VP.
Re: 1sug, 2ind (should've been 4 but supply ran out), 1corn.
Ni: 2cof, 2sug, 1corn.
Vo already had an indigo.
Mo already had a sugar.
Re already had an indigo.
Ni already had a sugar.
El Guapo: Missing the fact that supply ran out of indigo crates threw off your calculations. But thank you for trying to carry the ball down the field.
Moliere: +1 db and +1VP as Captain.
Moliere ships 3 indigo. With his harbor, that's 4VP.
El Guapo ships 1 tobacco. With his harbor. Total: 2VP. Tobacco boat is full.
Remus West ships 1 corn and 1 sugar via his Royal Supplier: 2VP. For his turn, Remus ships 3 ind for 3VP. Total: 5VP.
Nick ships 2 coffee. Total: 2VP.
Vorret ships 1 indigo. Total: 1VP. Indigo boat is full.
Moliere ships 2 coffee. With his harbor, that's another 3VP. Coffee boat is full.
Moliere ships 2 sugar via his wharf. With his harbor, that's another 3VP. Total: 11VP.
The ships sail away, sail away, sail away. Empties take their place.
Maybe I'm not following the "Nick skips a rock" reference, but Nick ships 2 coffee that turn for 2 VPs.
Thanks!NickAragua wrote:Right, I meant that I will keep one of the sugar crates. Should have been more specific.
That's ok. I'm confident in my records. I just like to cross check if the opportunity is available.I also honestly have no idea how many VPs I have.
I like this approach.Moliere wrote:I just assume that I am winning and let the cruel hand of fate tell me otherwise at the end.
The photos show the current state of the game for reference. But the ascii boards are authoritative if you find differences. And if you find mistakes, let me know!Grundbegriff wrote:I like this approach.Moliere wrote:I just assume that I am winning and let the cruel hand of fate tell me otherwise at the end.
El Guapo has clarified his pawn placement, and NickAragua has clarified his spoilage, so... yeah!Moliere wrote:So we're waiting for Remus to pick something?
I was waiting for confirmation on where I stand. My board still shows 4 doubloons. I thought I had 6. Also it would impact my VP total. Off to double check my own thinking.Grundbegriff wrote:El Guapo has clarified his pawn placement, and NickAragua has clarified his spoilage, so... yeah!Moliere wrote:So we're waiting for Remus to pick something?
Remus West Indies
Eh. If I'd have been more careful earlier I wouldn't be in the situation I find myself in right now. I put any delay on me.Grundbegriff wrote:Oh, ok. I'll be back later with an update.