Octopus Overlords

Skinypupy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:29 pmIt did draw him a warning from multiple House Oversight Committes though, for whatever that's worth.

All of this begs the question: What did Trump and Putin actually discuss at that impromptu one-on-one dinner meeting at the Hamburg G20 on July 7, 2017? 16/
Moreover, why did they huddle together by themselves within hours of the White House learning that the at-that-point-still-secret Trump Tower meeting between Trump, Jr. and the Russians was about to become public? 17/
Put another way, shortly after the New York Times reached out to the White House to ask about a secret meeting with the Russians, Trump himself sought a secret meeting with the Russians. 18/

GreenGoo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:04 pm If Cohen's father-in-law is involved in dirty money, and Drumpf knows about it, Drumpf is almost certainly also involved in it.

i.e. careful what you wish for, Mr. President.

“What’s disconcerting is the desire to hide information from your own team,” said Andrew S. Weiss, who was a Russia adviser to President Bill Clinton. “The fact that Trump didn’t want the State Department or members of the White House team to know what he was talking with Putin about suggests it was not about advancing our country’s national interest but something more problematic.”

The mystery surrounding the meetings seems to have drawn attention from the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, who is examining ties between the president and Russia. And it has generated a furor in Congress, where Democrats are pushing to subpoena the notes of the president’s interpreters or perhaps the interpreters themselves.

“All five of the presidents whom I worked for, Republicans and Democrats, wanted a word-for-word set of notes, if only to protect the integrity of the American side of the conversation against later manipulation by the Soviets or the Russians,” said Victoria J. Nuland, a career diplomat who worked for Dick Cheney and Hillary Clinton, among others.

That would seem an even greater imperative for Mr. Trump, who knew there were questions about his relationship with Mr. Putin given that American intelligence agencies concluded that Moscow tried to help elect him.

"I never said there was no collusion between the campaign, or people in the campaign," Giuliani said.

Dogstar wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:46 pm Rudy doing Rudy things.

"I never said there was no collusion between the campaign, or people in the campaign," Giuliani said.

Zarathud wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:22 amGiuliani is moving the goalposts before Mueller can score.

Holman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:21 pm Has this thread been posted?

Paingod wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:11 am

Zarathud wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:22 amGiuliani is moving the goalposts before Mueller can score.

Which is funny because Mueller is playing chess, not football.

Defiant wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:59 pm

Paingod wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:11 am

Zarathud wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:22 amGiuliani is moving the goalposts before Mueller can score.

Which is funny because Mueller is playing chess, not football.

I think Trump is playing Candy Land by trying to eat the pieces.

Remus West wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:38 pm The more of this that comes out the more and more I get pissed at James Comey. He has become a bigger and bigger idiot in my eyes every day. How he could possibly think announcing anything about Hillary's emails was important for the public to know while simultaneously believing that we did not need to know the truth regarding tRump baffles me more and more.

tjg_marantz wrote:Surprising no one, nothing on Fox News.

Captain Caveman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:50 pm Trump’s pick for AG sure thinks this is a crime:

msteelers wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:01 am I can’t find a mention of it on the Fox website, but it’s the lead story on their radio broadcasts.

I guess since nobody listens to radio, it’s ok to tell the truth there.

Toe wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:39 am That is some pretty damning stuff from Cohen. I guess my question is, is there hard evidence of this? Because trump will have no issue swearing under oath that he never told Cohen that.

stessier wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:13 am If this is the worst, I don't think it's enough to get the Senate to convict on impeachment.

YellowKing wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:51 am
That said, I think it unlikely we ever get to that point. I see Trump resigning dying in a rage-induced grabber rather than going survivingthrough that whole ordeal.

YellowKing wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:51 am Senators (even the most loathsome of them) still have a duty to uphold the law. If there is clear and irrefutable evidence a crime has been committed, they'll have no choice but to turn on Trump. There's no way they go down with the ship if there's a chance to save their own skins.

That said, I think it unlikely we ever get to that point. I see Trump resigning rather than going through that whole ordeal.

GreenGoo wrote:

msteelers wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:01 am I can’t find a mention of it on the Fox website, but it’s the lead story on their radio broadcasts.

I guess since nobody listens to radio, it’s ok to tell the truth there.

I assume it's related to Fox affiliates vs Fox itself, but I really don't have a clue how any of that works.

pr0ner wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:14 am Trump is going after Cohen and Cohen's father-in-law AGAIN.

msteelers wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:15 am

GreenGoo wrote:

msteelers wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:01 am I can’t find a mention of it on the Fox website, but it’s the lead story on their radio broadcasts.

I guess since nobody listens to radio, it’s ok to tell the truth there.

I assume it's related to Fox affiliates vs Fox itself, but I really don't have a clue how any of that works.

It came from Fox itself. My radio station is the affiliate, playing the content created by Fox the network.