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Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:13 pm

Former Oklahoma state senator admits to child sex trafficking while in office.

Alabama GOP: We support Roy Moore!

Oklahoma GOP: Hold my beer.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:42 pm

You will need to post more. Many of us don't do paywalls.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:45 pm

Glenn Thrush goes down in the sexual harassment wave.

https://twitter.com/voxdotcom/status/932632670928035840

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:56 pm

Woman says Al Franken inappropriately touched her in 2010

Lindsay Menz, a 33-year-old woman who now lives in Frisco, Texas, reached out to CNN on Thursday hours after Tweeden made her story public. Menz said she wanted to share an "uncomfortable" interaction that left her feeling "gross."

According to Menz, she attended the Minnesota State Fair with her husband and father in the summer of 2010, almost two years after Franken was elected to the Senate. Her father's small business was sponsoring a local radio booth, and she spent the day meeting various elected officials, political candidates and celebrities and taking photos with them as they stopped by the booth.

When Franken walked in, Menz and her husband, who also spoke with CNN, said they recognized him right away. Menz said she had a brief and cordial exchange with the senator.

Then, as her husband held up her phone and got ready to snap a photo of the two of them, Franken "pulled me in really close, like awkward close, and as my husband took the picture, he put his hand full-fledged on my rear," Menz said. "It was wrapped tightly around my butt cheek."

em2nought · Post by **em2nought** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:03 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMIyDf3gBoY

I'm shocked, shocked to see that men will be men. First they came for the white man and nobody cared. Now they're after all of us. Soon we'll all be joining the dog at the vet to have our bits snipped.

Or maybe they'll do it in the delivery room. Only way to be absolutely sure, label us all predators on our birth certificates so we can't purchase firearms either.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:34 pm

em2nought wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:03 pm Only way to be absolutely sure, label us all predators on our birth certificates so we can't purchase firearms either.

+1

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:37 pm

It's actually a little impressive how you manage to cram that much blatant racism and misogyny into one short post.

Now go away, adults are talking.

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:39 pm

em2nought wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:03 pm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMIyDf3gBoY

I'm shocked, shocked to see that men will be men. First they came for the white man and nobody cared. Now they're after all of us. Soon we'll all be joining the dog at the vet to have our bits snipped. Or maybe they'll do it in the delivery room. Only way to be absolutely sure, label us all predators on our birth certificates so we can't purchase firearms either.

Very on brand.

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:41 pm

At one time being respectful to other people, including those of the opposite gender, was called manners. You didn't celebrate being rude and unmannered -- you shunned and shamed them.

#MAGA

Combustible Lemur · Post by **Combustible Lemur** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:39 pm

Zarathud wrote:At one time being respectful to other people, including those of the opposite gender, was called manners. You didn't celebrate being rude and unmannered -- you shunned and shamed them.

#MAGA

Only in public, as long as the blinds were closed it was legal to beat entire household and rape your wife. And as long as they were the right people.

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Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:56 pm

To me, the sad thing isn't what em2 says. That's a wholly expected pattern of behavior from him.

The sad thing is that an alarming number of Americans - more than I ever would have expected - seem to share em2's neanderthalish view that sexual harassment is perfectly acceptable behavior because it's just "men being men". Even going so far as to claim "oppression" because they can't get away with it consequence-free anymore.

I guess I kinda thought we (the collective we) were better than that.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:59 pm

That whole "ethics in journalism" thing should have taught you better than that.

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:01 pm

Reading this thread while watching The Handmaid's Tale. So yeah.....

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:09 pm

Holman wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:13 pm Former Oklahoma state senator admits to child sex trafficking while in office.

Alabama GOP: We support Roy Moore!

Oklahoma GOP: Hold my beer.

In case you don't pay WaPo:

Ralph Shortey, a former Oklahoma state senator and county campaign coordinator for President Donald Trump’s campaign last year, will plead guilty to a child sex trafficking charge after being accused of soliciting sex from a 17-year-old boy in March.

In exchange for his guilty plea, government prosecutors have agreed to drop three counts of child pornography against him.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:49 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:09 pm
Holman wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:13 pm Former Oklahoma state senator admits to child sex trafficking while in office.

Alabama GOP: We support Roy Moore!

Oklahoma GOP: Hold my beer.
In case you don't pay WaPo:

Ralph Shortey, a former Oklahoma state senator and county campaign coordinator for President Donald Trump’s campaign last year, will plead guilty to a child sex trafficking charge after being accused of soliciting sex from a 17-year-old boy in March.

In exchange for his guilty plea, government prosecutors have agreed to drop three counts of child pornography against him.

So not actually any sex trafficking, just soliciting a minor and child porn. Another perv customer gets caught. Good but title is very misleading.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:52 pm

I had just been thinking about it and on cue a guy writes an article about what a rockstar HRC could have been had she played the cards differently.

https://pjmedia.com/davidsteinberg/hill ... decisions/

Had Hillary ever made the moral decision to drop Bill at any point, who knows where she would be now? She had the drive to never give up; Trump did complement her on that quality at the close of one 2016 debate. She might have found a different husband who made her popular feminism seem credible. She could have remained single, and won praise from her Leftist base for making it on her own.

Making a different decision at any number of fate’s dice throws might have led her to something approaching an authentic life: to really be who she portrayed herself as. She could have avoided each of her husband's scandals, each of his alleged scores of abuses.

tjg_marantz · Post by **tjg_marantz** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:57 pm

just soliciting a minor and child porn.

Thank goodness only.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:46 pm

tjg_marantz wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:57 pm just soliciting a minor and child porn.

Thank goodness only.

I know it sounds callous but that is much better than being a key cog in some child sex smuggling ring which is what it sounded like.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:13 pm

Down goes Charlie Rose. Suspended after accusations from 8 women.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:15 pm

malchior wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:13 pm Down goes Charlie Rose. Suspended after accusations from 8 women.

Last Week Tonight has had a semi-recurring segment playing sexual banter between Charlie Rose and the female co-hosts of the CBS morning show that he has been on. So....probably not all playful banter, then.

em2nought · Post by **em2nought** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:29 pm

Skinypupy wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:56 pm To me, the sad thing isn't what em2 says. That's a wholly expected pattern of behavior from him.

I didn't condone the behavior. It's starting to feel like if you don't look like this guy below, then you better wear handcuffs at all times to protect you from yourself.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:34 pm

Jesus.

You're really going with "men are the real victims here"?

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:55 pm

You’re surprised by that?

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:15 pm

Rip wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:46 pm
tjg_marantz wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:57 pm just soliciting a minor and child porn.

Thank goodness only.
I know it sounds callous but that is much better than being a key cog in some child sex smuggling ring which is what it sounded like.

Better how? He took the plea for sex trafficking to get a lighter sentence.

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:15 pm

em2nought wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:29 pm
Skinypupy wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:56 pm To me, the sad thing isn't what em2 says. That's a wholly expected pattern of behavior from him.
I didn't condone the behavior.

Yes you do.

em2nought · Post by **em2nought** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:17 am

Alefroth wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:15 pm
em2nought wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:29 pm
Skinypupy wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:56 pm To me, the sad thing isn't what em2 says. That's a wholly expected pattern of behavior from him.
I didn't condone the behavior.
Yes you do.

I keep hearing "Trump isn't my President" too, but repeating something over and over doesn't make it so.

gbasden · Post by **gbasden** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:45 am

em2nought wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:29 pm
I didn't condone the behavior. It's starting to feel like if you don't look like this guy below, then you better wear handcuffs at all times to protect you from yourself.

I always thought it was pretty easy - treat women as equals and don't sexually harass or assault anyone. I've always found that to be a pretty easy bar to clear, but maybe it's more challenging for some than I thought.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:42 am

I am hearing John COnyers is one of the secret congressional sexual harassers....

tjg_marantz · Post by **tjg_marantz** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:11 am

https://twitter.com/ByronTau/status/932811217202229248

This is fucked up.

Sexual harassment pay out...? Not if it's hidden as a severance package!

Sweet mother.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:22 am

Rip wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:42 am I am hearing John COnyers is one of the secret congressional sexual harassers....

I've heard that too, and he's probably going to be out. Maybe Roy Moore gets his parking space?

Conyers was the highest payout. There are rumors that the second-highest is a GOP senator whose name has yet to be leaked.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:44 am

em2nought wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:29 pmI didn't condone the behavior. It's starting to feel like if you don't look like this guy below, then you better wear handcuffs at all times to protect you from yourself.

I just want to pitch in here, and I know it's been said, but all you need to do is pretend women aren't things. When you pretend enough, it'll get easier and easier to accept them as people.

Avoiding sexual harassment until then is as simple as this:

Look, but don't stare
Hands to yourself
Talk about work and the weather
If you're on neutral or better terms with a woman, it's okay to ask them out socially
- If she proposes to see your penis, that's your call, use your big-boy judgement
- Only after at least two social interactions that involve mouth-to-mouth kissing should you propose she see your penis.
- No always means no, regardless of what is happening or how far undressed you've both gotten. It might even mean 'No' mid-coitus
- The only exception to this rule is if you've agreed beforehand on a predetermined safe word that acts in replacement of "No"
If you have to force, drug, sneak, or coerce a woman to get what you're after, you can expect to be charged with sexual assault.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:47 am

Could folks stop quoting Em2 please? He is the only poster I have blocked and he is that way because the vast majority of the time I don't care to read his garbage. When you quote him I end up reading his filth.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:58 am

em2nought wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:29 pm
Skinypupy wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:56 pm To me, the sad thing isn't what em2 says. That's a wholly expected pattern of behavior from him.
I didn't condone the behavior.

You did. And then you doubled down.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:16 am

Holman wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:22 am Conyers was the highest payout. There are rumors that the second-highest is a GOP senator whose name has yet to be leaked.

Please be Mitch McConnell, please be Mitch McConnell, please be Mitch McConnell.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:34 pm

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/932951937531686912

36 women confirm that Al Franken did not grope them.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:38 pm

So he doesn’t grope where he eats.

tjg_marantz · Post by **tjg_marantz** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:19 pm

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/us-vot ... d-nations/

The resolution entitled "Combating glorification of Nazism, Neo-Nazism and other practices that contribute to fueling contemporary forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance," was approved by the U.N.'s human rights committee on Friday with 131 in favor, 3 against with 48 abstentions.

Ukraine and Palau were the other no votes.

Btw, this was a year ago. What is happening in this world? I know it's because Free speech but hot damn.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:23 pm

Isn't this something that comes up again and again, and we always vote No?

It was the same under Obama. It's definitely a free speech issue.

tjg_marantz · Post by **tjg_marantz** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:39 pm

Where are we putting these politicians? Here? Harvey thread?

https://twitter.com/StarTribune/status/ ... 3434761222

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:47 pm

Comments from a former Alabama police officer regarding Roy Moore:

A retired Alabama police officer told MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell on Tuesday that she had to keep an eye on Alabama Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore in the 1980s at local high school football games because he would regularly harass the team’s teenage cheerleaders.

Faye Gary, who for 37 years was an officer at the Gadsden Police Department, explained to Mitchell that Moore’s reputation for pursuing underage girls was widely known throughout the community.

“We were also told to watch him at the ballgames, and make sure that he didn’t, you know, hang around with the cheerleaders,” said Gary.