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Do we even want a counter claim? With a mess of Rebels wandering around, isn't there some sense in the true Emperor (if not Scoop) keeping his head down and getting more intel before forcing the face off?Newcastle wrote:if someone else counter claims, we let the night kills do the talking. We let them both live. No way rebels let the emperor live. I Much rather we dictate their night kills then us do the dirty work.
He could be trying to draw the Emperor out of the shadows, if so, the Emperor must decide if this target is worth his sacrifice. I say no, if he is the Emperor then the rebels must eliminate him.stessier wrote:It just strikes me as very odd that we managed to pick our Seer as our Day 1 lynch in two games. We can't find a Bad Guy, but we can find our Best Guy twice? What are the odds?
Ok, it's not as good a fit as I recall. But in any event when I read it I took it as "so who would you want to lynch?"Unagi wrote:Oh really?? See - it stood out to me as a very weird quote to pluck out at the time.El Guapo wrote:Yeah, that's a fair point. FWIW the quote didn't strike me as an obvious hint at the time, since it fit well into the discussion (i.e. "so pick someone we should lynch!") Might be a hint, might not be.
In fact. What are you even trying to say: "it fit well into the discussion".
Did it? It didn't fit into the discussion at all.
Go back and re-read it, it was a totally random quote that didn't apply at all to what Remus was saying:Scoop20906 wrote:You would prefer another target? A military target? Then name the player!Remus West wrote:Scoop, pr0ner was saying that if you are Empire it would be in the best interest of the Empire to kill you because you would make such an epic mistake it would doom us all (maybe he thinks he is killing the guy who designed a moon-sized space station that a single fighter could blow up). He was also saying that if you are a Rebel we should let you live as you would doom them all. I think it was a joke. Which in and of itself is weird from him but is hardly a slip of the nature you are trying to describe it as.
I grow tired of asking this. So it'll be the last time. Who is the hidden rebel?
Still, its good to see you sticking up for pr0ner, Remus. That will be useful info later.
I'm starting to think that Scoop wasn't sure what special he felt like claiming. In fact, he could be Obi-wan, and was prepared to fake being Tarkin.
No. If this is a fake-claim, it would be a major mistake for our Emperor to come forward and counter it right now.El Guapo wrote:In any event what matters now is whether anyone disputes his claim.
I'm not clear that we're going to have everyone check in before 21:00 Eastern much less put together another non Scoop vote... Which is not to say we lynch Scoop, though my vote's not moving for the moment. CR said he'd check in after he got off work if there was time. Do we wait for that? Do we count on people voting someone else down?El Guapo wrote:I think it's pretty clear that if no one else claims emperor, then we don't lynch Scoop. If someone else does, then we choose between them.
I stongly recommend that if no one else comes forward before (say) 2 or so eastern, those on Scoop move off. I'd recommend Chaos, BUT that's up to you of course.
There's a potential issue here if Scoop is not the Emperor and if the Emperor cannot access the internet at work (though really, if anyone can the emperor can). BUT worst case scenario then Scoop is a day 2 lynch at the latest.
If there scoop is spoofing, then we dont want a counter claim now, that's obvious of course...you're right. My larger point was we let the night kills do the talking. If scoop is not the emperor, i'd say the real emperor lay low and we'll see what happens. No way, no way the rebels keep teh emperor out there and known.stessier wrote:Do we even want a counter claim? With a mess of Rebels wandering around, isn't there some sense in the true Emperor (if not Scoop) keeping his head down and getting more intel before forcing the face off?Newcastle wrote:if someone else counter claims, we let the night kills do the talking. We let them both live. No way rebels let the emperor live. I Much rather we dictate their night kills then us do the dirty work.
This is a fair point. But what now? Lynch and risk killing the emperor? I'm not thrilled about the prospect either.Unagi wrote:No. If this is a fake-claim, it would be a major mistake for our Emperor to come forward and counter it right now.El Guapo wrote:In any event what matters now is whether anyone disputes his claim.
I wonder though if the rebels might gamble on letting the emperor live, figuring that by not killing him they'll make Scoop look fake, ending up with a day 2 lynch of him. If scoop isn't faking, that is.Newcastle wrote:If there scoop is spoofing, then we dont want a counter claim now, that's obvious of course...you're right. My larger point was we let the night kills do the talking. If scoop is not the emperor, i'd say the real emperor lay low and we'll see what happens. No way, no way the rebels keep teh emperor out there and known.stessier wrote:Do we even want a counter claim? With a mess of Rebels wandering around, isn't there some sense in the true Emperor (if not Scoop) keeping his head down and getting more intel before forcing the face off?Newcastle wrote:if someone else counter claims, we let the night kills do the talking. We let them both live. No way rebels let the emperor live. I Much rather we dictate their night kills then us do the dirty work.
There are 21 people. You suggest we'd kill a potential faker to the throne on Day 2?El Guapo wrote:I wonder though if the rebels might gamble on letting the emperor live, figuring that by not killing him they'll make Scoop look fake, ending up with a day 2 lynch of him. If scoop isn't faking, that is.Newcastle wrote:If there scoop is spoofing, then we dont want a counter claim now, that's obvious of course...you're right. My larger point was we let the night kills do the talking. If scoop is not the emperor, i'd say the real emperor lay low and we'll see what happens. No way, no way the rebels keep teh emperor out there and known.stessier wrote:Do we even want a counter claim? With a mess of Rebels wandering around, isn't there some sense in the true Emperor (if not Scoop) keeping his head down and getting more intel before forcing the face off?Newcastle wrote:if someone else counter claims, we let the night kills do the talking. We let them both live. No way rebels let the emperor live. I Much rather we dictate their night kills then us do the dirty work.
Hmmm.... Luke, Han x2, Leia, C3PO, and Obi-Wan....Lassr wrote:I have a bad feeling about this...
Pretty fancy stuff.Scoop20906 wrote:Lol. Can you give a pass? I'm doing all this over the AT&T network.El Guapo wrote:Also it's "Sidious", my lord.
It'd be risky, but I wonder if they might try it to get us to do their dirty work for them. Maybe counting a day 2 lynch would be a bit ballsy though, I suppose.stessier wrote:There are 21 people. You suggest we'd kill a potential faker to the throne on Day 2?El Guapo wrote:I wonder though if the rebels might gamble on letting the emperor live, figuring that by not killing him they'll make Scoop look fake, ending up with a day 2 lynch of him. If scoop isn't faking, that is.Newcastle wrote:If there scoop is spoofing, then we dont want a counter claim now, that's obvious of course...you're right. My larger point was we let the night kills do the talking. If scoop is not the emperor, i'd say the real emperor lay low and we'll see what happens. No way, no way the rebels keep teh emperor out there and known.stessier wrote:Do we even want a counter claim? With a mess of Rebels wandering around, isn't there some sense in the true Emperor (if not Scoop) keeping his head down and getting more intel before forcing the face off?Newcastle wrote:if someone else counter claims, we let the night kills do the talking. We let them both live. No way rebels let the emperor live. I Much rather we dictate their night kills then us do the dirty work.
IF Han Solo is in the game.El Guapo wrote:Another thing about the emperor coming out is that (unless I'm reading the rules wrong), we can't actually protect him and get a scan, because of Han. Han can disrupt the protection mechanism. So if Scoop's the emperor, all the rebels have to do is use Han and then they can kill him.
So if Scoop's the emperor, we're pretty much boned on that front.
Yes, you're right - if he's in the game. Though *some* of the rebels have to be in the game.theohall wrote:IF Han Solo is in the game.El Guapo wrote:Another thing about the emperor coming out is that (unless I'm reading the rules wrong), we can't actually protect him and get a scan, because of Han. Han can disrupt the protection mechanism. So if Scoop's the emperor, all the rebels have to do is use Han and then they can kill him.
So if Scoop's the emperor, we're pretty much boned on that front.
It's not a matter of how many people, it's a matter how how many misses and how much you faith you put in the potential faker. If the game was designed for three to four misses then if you suspect a faker then he ought to go by day 3 unless we've rooted out other rebels. This does not take into account the potential for a wookie or how an overvote can change the game.stessier wrote:
There are 21 people. You suggest we'd kill a potential faker to the throne on Day 2?
I had some time to prepare for this post since I've been on the edge for a while. And yes using this browser is a pain in the ass. The only improvement is my spelling.Unagi wrote:Pretty fancy stuff.Scoop20906 wrote:Lol. Can you give a pass? I'm doing all this over the AT&T network.El Guapo wrote:Also it's "Sidious", my lord.
Did you pick that color from the iPhone's native interface to these forums? I have trouble with that.
I'm just saying Scoop - you started this game with the big warning that you could hardly even keep up - let alone comment and post from work... Now you have this glorious post that you are the Emperor - and well, that just kinda stands out to me. It's a Great Post - and well...
Yeah. Just like if somebody gave away who they were at 8 votes.triggercut wrote:BTW--we may now find out if R2 is in game....just sayin'.
If that's a counter claim, I'll be happy to pull my vote off you.Chaosraven wrote:No, you were wrong the other way and SCOOP is lying. He is indeed a Rebel.
What happened to all of the yoda talk and with Scoop being pushed to the bring before? CR doesn't get a pass but if we were playing batman you would surely be Harvey Dent.triggercut wrote:Craziness.
Thanks to what I'm sure was a strong Rebel presence, Scoop goes to the brink and has to reveal his role.
And then what? Folks pull their votes off and there's a significant population of:
"We were totally wrong about Scoop and nearly lynched the Emperor on day 1...but we refuse to consider Chaosraven as a viable target. Let's vote for someone else (who is in the Empire/or who we can create no consensus on and go to the night without a lynch which also helps us Rebels out.)"
Just another log for the fire creating all that swirling smoke that indicts CR to me.
Yes it is. I am EMPEROR PALPATINE.triggercut wrote:If that's a counter claim, I'll be happy to pull my vote off you.Chaosraven wrote:No, you were wrong the other way and SCOOP is lying. He is indeed a Rebel.
You serious here?Chaosraven wrote:Yes it is. I am EMPEROR PALPATINE.triggercut wrote:If that's a counter claim, I'll be happy to pull my vote off you.Chaosraven wrote:No, you were wrong the other way and SCOOP is lying. He is indeed a Rebel.
Yes. Hence my anger at being run up the flagpole for a "rebel slip"El Guapo wrote:You serious here?Chaosraven wrote:Yes it is. I am EMPEROR PALPATINE.triggercut wrote:If that's a counter claim, I'll be happy to pull my vote off you.Chaosraven wrote:No, you were wrong the other way and SCOOP is lying. He is indeed a Rebel.