Puerto Rico, Game 03: Moët Margarita - The Game is Afoot!

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 2:58 pm

Vorret to choose whether to sell tobacco

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 3:44 pm

Yeah I will sell it ... I'm not sure what it's worth but I havea market so +1 on the value!

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 4:52 pm

I'll sell my indigo for 3

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:26 pm

Vorret wrote:Yeah I will sell it ... I'm not sure what it's worth but I havea market so +1 on the value!

Should sell for 4 (3 for the tobacco +1 for the small market).

Your turn to choose.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:46 pm

Question... what happens when you have no space left for plantation and someone picks settler?

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:54 pm

Vorret wrote:Question... what happens when you have no space left for plantation and someone picks settler?

I believe that you don't get a plantation.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:57 pm

Okay, that's as straightforward as it gets

Next question... if I move a noble to the land office, when I sell a plantation, is it random or can I pick the one I want to sell?

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:01 pm

Vorret wrote:Okay, that's as straightforward as it gets Next question... if I move a noble to the land office, when I sell a plantation, is it random or can I pick the one I want to sell?

You can pick.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:03 pm

Okay,
Mayor, move noble from market to land office, colonist from land office to market.
New colonist to tonacco storage and the incoming noble to coffee farm I guess, doesn't really matter!

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:10 pm

Colonist to the hospice.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:21 pm

Grundbegriff wrote:
Vorret wrote:Okay, that's as straightforward as it gets Next question... if I move a noble to the land office, when I sell a plantation, is it random or can I pick the one I want to sell?
You can pick.

Remember though: you can sell during Trader.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:29 pm

Just to clarify: the boat brought 8 colonists and 1 noble. So...

Vo receives 1 bonus colonist from supply, 1 noble, & 1 colonist.
Mo receives 2 colonists.
El receives 2 colonists (+1 noble via villa)
Re receives 2 colonists.
Ni receives 1 colonist.

Please clarify your placement orders.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:36 pm

Colonist to indigo farm
Colonist to large sugar mill
Bonus noble (from villa) to tobacco storage.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:46 pm

2nd colonist to the land office.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 1:37 am

One guy to corn. The other to San Juan to look for a job.

NickAragua · Post by **NickAragua** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:37 am

Colonist to large sugar mill. Layabout from construction hut to large sugar mill.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:54 am

It looks like Vorret still has the bonus colonist to place. In the meantime I will take Craftsman.
3 coffee + 1 for privilege
1 sugar
3 indigo

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:30 am

Supply permitting I think I produce 3 tobacco, 2 sugar, 1 indigo, 1 corn, and 1 vp

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:39 am

El Guapo wrote:Supply permitting I think I produce 3 tobacco, 2 sugar, 1 indigo, 1 corn, and 1 vp

Can you stop producing so many VP's and Nobles. How am I supposed to catch up with you?

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:55 am

Grund wrote:Coffee crates in supply: 9
Tobacco crates in supply: 7
Sugar crates in supply: 8
Indigo crates in supply: 10
Corn crates in supply: 10

Moliere wrote:It looks like Vorret still has the bonus colonist to place. In the meantime I will take Craftsman.
3 coffee (6 left) + 1 for privilege (5 left - only one other person produces coffee so this will be available)
1 sugar (7 left)
3 indigo(7left)

El Guapo wrote:Supply permitting I think I produce
3 tobacco (4 left)
2 sugar (6 left)
1 indigo (6 left)
1 corn (9 left)
and 1 vp (dick)

I produce
4 Indigo (2 left)
1 Sugar (5 left)
2 Corn (8 left)
and 3 Doubloons

Nick produces
2 coffee (3 left)
2 Sugar (3 left)
1 Corn (7 left)
and 1 VP (dick)

Vorret produces
2 Tobacco (2 left)
2 Indigo (0 left)
4 Corn (4 left)

Please double check but I believe that is what everyone will gain.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 5:11 pm

Mayor ends with 4c + 1n on the inbound ship.
Moliere: you cannot make 3 coffee (+1=4). Your production facility has two workers.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 5:17 pm

Remus West wrote:
Grund wrote:Coffee crates in supply: 9
Tobacco crates in supply: 7
Sugar crates in supply: 8
Indigo crates in supply: 10
Corn crates in supply: 10

Moliere wrote:It looks like Vorret still has the bonus colonist to place. In the meantime I will take Craftsman.
3 coffee (6 left) + 1 for privilege (5 left - only one other person produces coffee so this will be available)
1 sugar (7 left)
3 indigo(7left)

El Guapo wrote:Supply permitting I think I produce
3 tobacco (4 left)
2 sugar (6 left)
1 indigo (6 left)
1 corn (9 left)
and 1 vp (dick)
I produce
4 Indigo (2 left)
1 Sugar (5 left)
2 Corn (8 left)
and 3 Doubloons

Nick produces
2 coffee (3 left)
2 Sugar (3 left)
1 Corn (7 left)
and 1 VP (dick)

Vorret produces
2 Tobacco (2 left)
2 Indigo (0 left)
4 Corn (4 left)

Please double check but I believe that is what everyone will gain.

Remus, aren't you a math teacher? Your reck'nin' is all wrong.

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Supply holds: coffee 09, tobacco 07, sugar 08, indigo 10, corn 10

    Mo makes: coffee 02,             sugar 01, indigo 03 (& 1 coffee at the end)
Supply holds: coffee 06, tobacco 07, sugar 07, indigo 07, corn 10

    El makes:            tobacco 03, sugar 02, indigo 01, corn 01
Supply holds: coffee 06, tobacco 04, sugar 05, indigo 06, corn 09

    Re makes:                        sugar 01, indigo 04, corn 02
Supply holds: coffee 06, tobacco 04, sugar 04, indigo 02, corn 07

    Ni makes: coffee 02,             sugar 02,            corn 01
Supply holds: coffee 04, tobacco 04, sugar 02, indigo 02, corn 06

    Vo makes:            tobacco 03,           indigo 02, corn 04
Supply holds: coffee 04, tobacco 01, sugar 02, indigo 00, corn 02

Upshot: Supply holds: coffee 04, tobacco 01, sugar 02, indigo 00, corn 02

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 5:45 pm

Vorret: you have an idle worker and open spaces. You may place him in one of the following locations:
Sugar farm west.
Sugar farm east.
large indigo plant.

Please let me know.

Through the power of prayer, El Guapo and Nick each earned a VP in that crafting turn.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 7:55 pm

Grundbegriff wrote:Mayor ends with 4c + 1n on the inbound ship.
Moliere: you cannot make 3 coffee (+1=4). Your production facility has two workers.

If Craftsman allows me to produce to my capacity how am I supposed to use the privilege?

Spoiler:

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:49 pm

Moliere wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:Mayor ends with 4c + 1n on the inbound ship.
Moliere: you cannot make 3 coffee (+1=4). Your production facility has two workers.
If Craftsman allows me to produce to my capacity how am I supposed to use the privilege?

Capacity: one crate for each ordered pair of (x-farm-worker, x-factory-worker).

You have exactly two coffee-factory-workers. So, by definition, you cannot produce more than two crates no matter how many coffee-farm-workers you have.
To exploit that third manned coffee farm, you'd need a third coffee roaster worker. And since each coffee roaster holds no more than two, you'd need a second coffee roaster-- which is prohibited by the rule against duplicate buildings.

Ergo, there's never a point to manning more than two coffee farms.

The privilege adds, to your maximum production, one more crate regardless of your capacity.

Does that help?

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:58 pm

Grundbegriff wrote:Vorret: you have an idle worker and open spaces. You may place him in one of the following locations:
Sugar farm west.
Sugar farm east.
large indigo plant.

Please let me know.

Through the power of prayer, El Guapo and Nick each earned a VP in that crafting turn.

Don't forget my factory. I gained 3 Doubloons during the Craftsman phase even if I can not subtract properly.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:27 pm

Remus West wrote:Don't forget my factory. I gained 3 Doubloons during the Craftsman phase even if I can not subtract properly.

Thanks for that reminder! I did, in fact, overlook your factory.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:30 pm

Grundbegriff wrote:The privilege adds, to your maximum production, one more crate regardless of your capacity.

Does that help?

Sorry, I'm not following. Can you tell me what my options are?

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:36 pm

Moliere wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:The privilege adds, to your maximum production, one more crate regardless of your capacity.

Does that help?
Sorry, I'm not following. Can you tell me what my options are?

You produce 1 unit for each matching pair of farm worker & production facility worker (or, for corn, each farm worker). Based on this, your production is as follows:

2 coffee
1 sugar
3 indigo

Your privilege allows you to take, in addition to your production capacity, one additional crate of good from the types that you produced this turn.

So, in addition to what you produced above, you can choose to take 1 bonus crate of coffee, sugar, or indigo.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:53 pm

Moliere wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:The privilege adds, to your maximum production, one more crate regardless of your capacity.Does that help?
Sorry, I'm not following. Can you tell me what my options are?

Options? I think I've lost track of what we're talking about.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:57 pm

El Guapo wrote:So, in addition to what you produced above, you can choose to take 1 bonus crate of coffee, sugar, or indigo.

Then why was I told I couldn't have the coffee? Unless there was some confusion about my original request. I wanted 2 coffee from production and 1 from privilege.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:58 pm

Moliere wrote:It looks like Vorret still has the bonus colonist to place. In the meantime I will take Craftsman.
3 coffee + 1 for privilege
1 sugar
3 indigo

You said that you wanted 4 coffee, including privilege. That's the source of the confusion, I think.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:07 pm

El Guapo wrote:
Moliere wrote:It looks like Vorret still has the bonus colonist to place. In the meantime I will take Craftsman.
3 coffee + 1 for privilege
1 sugar
3 indigo
You said that you wanted 4 coffee, including privilege. That's the source of the confusion, I think.

Right. I read Moliere's remark to mean that he thought he was capable of producing 3 coffee naturally, and that he wanted a fourth coffee as his privilege. So I corrected that misconception.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:06 pm

OK, sorry for the wording. I was including my +1 in the 3. Carry on.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:31 pm

Moliere wrote:OK, sorry for the wording. I was including my +1 in the 3. Carry on.

So when you said "3 coffee +1 for privilege", what you meant was "3 coffee (including +1 for privilege)"? That sheds light. In any case, I think we're all on the same page.

Just a reminder: we'll run out of colonists and nobles soon, but the game will not end at that juncture (as it would without the Nobles expansion). The game will end when someone fills his city with buildings or when the VPs in supply are depleted.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:43 pm

I'll take builder, and build a royal supplier for 4 (6 - quarry - privilege), leaving me with 0 doubloons.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:16 am

I'll build the Customs House for 10 of my 11 doubloons.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:26 am

Remus West wrote:I'll build the Customs House for 10 of my 11 doubloons.

You started the round with 5. You chose Prospector +1 for 2. You earned 3 during Craftsman. How do you have 11?

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:29 am

Grundbegriff wrote:
Remus West wrote:I'll build the Customs House for 10 of my 11 doubloons.
You started the round with 5. You chose Prospector +1 for 2. You earned 3 during Craftsman. How do you have 11?

Was thinking I started with 6 but now that you say 5 I remember the 6 was based off my projections for this round before I made errors last round. In any event I have the 10 I need.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:48 am

Yes, you do. The first of the big spenders!