Political Randomness

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:45 am

Rip wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:26 pm and now we have seen.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/28/politics/ ... index.html

A federal judge hearing the case over who rightfully can lead the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau on an acting basis Tuesday denied a request to block President Donald Trump from installing Mick Mulvaney as acting director.

At a hearing Tuesday evening at the US District Court in Washington, DC, Judge Timothy Kelly ruled that he will not issue an emergency order blocking Trump from installing Mulvaney in the post.

As much as I despise Trump, I think the judge got it right. It makes no sense for a retiring head to appoint his own successor, even temporarily, and I don't believe there is any precedent for it. The statue in the CFPB law clearly envisions a temporary situation where the head person is temporarily unavailable, not when they retire.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:22 am

The Federalist is out with a hot take on how all politicians are imperfect so there's no reason not to vote for Roy Moore, and also mature men fucking teens is normal and natural, biologically speaking, and all the accusers are liars anyway.

Actually the article leads with the teen-fucking thing. I kid you not.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:38 am

Holman wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:22 am The Federalist is out with a hot take on how all politicians are imperfect so there's no reason not to vote for Roy Moore, and also mature men fucking teens is normal and natural, biologically speaking, and all the accusers are liars anyway.

Actually the article leads with the teen-fucking thing. I kid you not.

https://twitter.com/morninggloria/statu ... 3221653504

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:45 pm

https://twitter.com/eyokley/status/936266166263336962

A little later than it should've come, but this is probably right.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:50 pm

I guess that investigation she said should play out has started to generate fruit. But the Democrats are just as bad about defending their own as the Republicans...

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:05 pm

There's also a new Franken groping accuser today.

Unlikely he'll last. Dems need to step up and do the right thing.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:32 pm

Organizers with the left-leaning group Housing Works told protesters they must “risk arrest” in order to be reimbursed for airfare to Washington, D.C., according to an internal email obtained by The Daily Caller News Foundation.

“We will transport, house and feed you, and deal with all legal support. Caveat: if you are far away from DC and expensive to transport, we can probably only fly you if you can risk arrest,” the internal email told supporters.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/29/exclu ... -arrested/

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:35 pm

Fetch me my clutching pearls!

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:36 pm

Holman wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:05 pm Dems need to step up and do the right thing.

Relocate him to Alabama?

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:43 pm

Rip wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:32 pm
Organizers with the left-leaning group Housing Works told protesters they must “risk arrest” in order to be reimbursed for airfare to Washington, D.C., according to an internal email obtained by The Daily Caller News Foundation.

“We will transport, house and feed you, and deal with all legal support. Caveat: if you are far away from DC and expensive to transport, we can probably only fly you if you can risk arrest,” the internal email told supporters.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/29/exclu ... -arrested/

You know that going into a protest expecting to be arrested is a thing and has been for decades, right?

Or are you falling for The Daily Caller's innuendo that this is about committing sinister mayhem and The Crimes?

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:06 pm

Isgrimnur wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:13 pm Texas Tribune

U.S. Rep. Joe Barton, R-Ennis, released a statement on Wednesday apologizing for a graphic nude photo of him that circulated on social media earlier this week.
...
Barton, the former chairman of the powerful House Energy and Commerce committee, joined the House in 1985 and is the longest-serving member of Congress from Texas.

If Barton were to choose to not run for re-election, it would be sure to set off a frantic race to replace him, which is all but certain to be determined in the Republican primary. His 6th district, stretching from the Metroplex into East Texas, is heavily Republican territory. The filing deadline for the 2018 primaries is Dec. 11.

The Hill

Rep. Joe Barton (R-Texas) will not run for reelection after a nude photo and sexually explicit text messages he shared with a woman other than his wife went public this month.
...
The comments come after a woman, earlier this week, shared a string of sexually suggestive Facebook messages she received from the Texas lawmaker, who was married at the time of the correspondence.

During the exchanges that apparently took place between 2012 and 2013, Barton was married to his second wife, Terri.

Enough · Post by **Enough** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:06 pm

Holman wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:43 pm
Rip wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:32 pm
Organizers with the left-leaning group Housing Works told protesters they must “risk arrest” in order to be reimbursed for airfare to Washington, D.C., according to an internal email obtained by The Daily Caller News Foundation.

“We will transport, house and feed you, and deal with all legal support. Caveat: if you are far away from DC and expensive to transport, we can probably only fly you if you can risk arrest,” the internal email told supporters.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/29/exclu ... -arrested/

You know that going into a protest expecting to be arrested is a thing and has been for decades, right?

Or are you falling for The Daily Caller's innuendo that this is about committing sinister mayhem and The Crimes?

Seriously, what the actual fuck is your problem Rip? This is civil disobedience 101.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:27 pm

Really? I've done some civil disobedience and never once did a non-profit offer to pay my room, board, and travel.

Nice to know you guys think that is ok. Maybe after I retire I will start a non-profit for paying the expenses/travel of people willing to disrupt liberal events.

Sounds a lot more fun than fishing.

Enough · Post by **Enough** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:30 pm

Rip wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:27 pm Really? I've done some civil disobedience and never once did a non-profit offer to pay my room, board, and travel.

Nice to know you guys think that is ok. Maybe after I retire I will start a non-profit for paying the expenses/travel of people willing to disrupt liberal events.

Sounds a lot more fun than fishing.

Have you been arrested for civil disobedience before? What for?

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:35 pm

Rip wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:27 pmReally? I've done some civil disobedience and never once did a non-profit offer to pay my room, board, and travel.

Holding up a "God Hates Fags" placard outside your local Wendy's hardly counts.

Freyland · Post by **Freyland** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:36 pm

Enough wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:30 pm
Rip wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:27 pm Really? I've done some civil disobedience and never once did a non-profit offer to pay my room, board, and travel.

Nice to know you guys think that is ok. Maybe after I retire I will start a non-profit for paying the expenses/travel of people willing to disrupt liberal events.

Sounds a lot more fun than fishing.
Have you been arrested for civil disobedience before? What for?

Fairly certain it was for Trolling without the appropriate neon hairstyle.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:39 pm

Enough wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:30 pm
Rip wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:27 pm Really? I've done some civil disobedience and never once did a non-profit offer to pay my room, board, and travel.

Nice to know you guys think that is ok. Maybe after I retire I will start a non-profit for paying the expenses/travel of people willing to disrupt liberal events.

Sounds a lot more fun than fishing.
Have you been arrested for civil disobedience before? What for?

Failure to disburse, camping on the beach among other things.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:41 pm

Rip wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:39 pm Failure to disburse

Aside from the IRS, who else did you fail to pay?

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:48 pm

Ugh. Now I've clicked on the Daily Caller.

The article is garbage. It goes beyond common sense to imply that the goal is to "violently disrupt" and that protesters will face "decades of prison time."

And the nefarious group plotting this almost-certain-to-be-terroristic action? "Housing Works fights for funding and legislation to ensure that all people living with HIV/AIDS have access to quality housing, healthcare, HIV prevention, and treatment, among other lifesaving services."

As it happens, I know people who have participated in these sorts of actions on both sides of the political aisle (on the right it was anti-abortion). The travel is obviously something significant, but room and board will be sleeping on a local volunteer's floor and making sandwiches in their kitchen.

Enough · Post by **Enough** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:02 pm

Well, personally I have no issue with food/board/travel for the right or left. If you are practicing non-violent civil disobedience I hope you have support and receive decent non-violence training. For example if you protest at the nuclear test site at an organized event your arrest will be processed in a BFE small town like 60 miles away from the test site and then you will be left there stranded to hopefully prevent you from getting arrested again. Thankfully, at said protests the organizers contract out buses to pick you up and take you back to base camp across from Mercury. Back at base camp you will find a myriad of training and support services. Food Not Bombs will likely have a soup kitchen set up (often food is dumpster-diven), they can hook you up with a tent, you can receive non-violence and mutual-consensus anarchy training, medical support and on and on.

Enough · Post by **Enough** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:04 pm

Holman wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:48 pm Ugh. Now I've clicked on the Daily Caller.

The article is garbage. It goes beyond common sense to imply that the goal is to "violently disrupt" and that protesters will face "decades of prison time."

And the nefarious group plotting this almost-certain-to-be-terroristic action? "Housing Works fights for funding and legislation to ensure that all people living with HIV/AIDS have access to quality housing, healthcare, HIV prevention, and treatment, among other lifesaving services."

As it happens, I know people who have participated in these sorts of actions on both sides of the political aisle (on the right it was anti-abortion). The travel is obviously something significant, but room and board will be sleeping on a local volunteer's floor and making sandwiches in their kitchen.

That's why I asked if he had ever protested. This is truly 101 stuff.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:08 pm

Paingod wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:35 pm
Rip wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:27 pmReally? I've done some civil disobedience and never once did a non-profit offer to pay my room, board, and travel.
Holding up a "God Hates Fags" placard outside your local Wendy's hardly counts.

I know everyone loves to rip on Rip, but this seems like too much.

Enough · Post by **Enough** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:14 pm

Moliere wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:08 pm
Paingod wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:35 pm
Rip wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:27 pmReally? I've done some civil disobedience and never once did a non-profit offer to pay my room, board, and travel.
Holding up a "God Hates Fags" placard outside your local Wendy's hardly counts.
I know everyone loves to rip on Rip, but this seems like too much.

Agreed. I like Rip. I like arguing with Rip, but I don't need to rip Rip with stuff like this.

Seriously, I do agree. It seems over the last few months all of us have been getting a bit more over the top as tensions rise. I am trying to resist it myself and welcome being called out if I fail.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:50 pm

No worries, I take none of it personally.

Also I am the last person you will find with a sign proclaiming anything about god.

Although I do love Chick-fil-A and eat there at least once a week.

RunningMn9 · Post by **RunningMn9** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:45 pm

Not paying your taxes isn’t really civil disobedience.

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Rip · Post by **Rip** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:24 pm

RunningMn9 wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:45 pm Not paying your taxes isn’t really civil disobedience.

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Making a snide remark about something that others have already mocked a few times isn't really comedy.

You must have went to the HRC School of Comedy.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:19 pm

BENGHAZI!

sorry...I see a Hillary Clinton reference and I just react.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:56 am

Rip wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:50 pmAlthough I do love Chick-fil-A

Holy SHIT! Rip and I have something in common!

and eat there at least once a week.

I wish there were some easily reached ones near me so I could do the same.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:09 am

Enough wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:14 pm
Moliere wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:08 pm
Paingod wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:35 pm
Rip wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:27 pmReally? I've done some civil disobedience and never once did a non-profit offer to pay my room, board, and travel.
Holding up a "God Hates Fags" placard outside your local Wendy's hardly counts.
I know everyone loves to rip on Rip, but this seems like too much.
Agreed. I like Rip. I like arguing with Rip, but I don't need to rip Rip with stuff like this.

Seriously, I do agree. It seems over the last few months all of us have been getting a bit more over the top as tensions rise. I am trying to resist it myself and welcome being called out if I fail.

I apologize. It was excessive. I had a long day, I was feeling particularly disgusted by Republicans, and lashed out at the closest target.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:16 am

Enough wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:14 pm It seems over the last few months all of us have been getting a bit more over the top as tensions rise. I am trying to resist it myself and welcome being called out if I fail.

+1 to this sentiment, even though I personally don't feel Paingod's comment was over the top. As Rip himself attested, he's a big boy, and I am sure I would have responded in kind if Rip or MSD made a similar drive-by comment about my historically hyper liberal views. I think we do pretty well policing ourselves in here, although really we should be asking the minority view posters this question (which is pretty much down to just Rip, now

)

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:49 am

I really think we need a guide to what's acceptable for Rip. With his contribution, of course. We've already established that he's fine with:

1) Chick-fil-A
2) ...
3)...

Okay, so if Rip gets you all riled up, you may safely respond thusly:

Damn it, Rip! Why don't you go get some delicious chicken sandwiches! And maybe a side!

More to come from Rip himself, I hope.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:58 am

I try not to be intemperate here, but 2017 is a nightmare.

I'm watching my country destroyed along with everything it stands for. The future is being ruined right in front of my eyes, on purpose and with malice, by the greediest and least patriotic assholes who have ever held American power. That's hard to take. I've never been so pessimistic about the world my children will have to deal with.

If I've been unduly harsh with Rip, I shouldn't have been. But he has taken on the role on Trump apologist when MSD and Smutly and the rest of the MAGA crowd have slunk away into the MAGA-stinking night, so I suppose he knew the job was dangerous when he took it.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:11 am

Despite what he chooses to do in his personal life, I'll still be voting for Gormöth the Destroyer in the coming election

First off, let me say that I completely condemn the actions that Gormöth the Destroyer has taken in his personal life. Since he was spawned from the Gate of Milnüür during the creation of humanity, he has spent the better part of an eternity curing existence itself with evil, immorality, death, and murder on a scale only achievable by his dreadfully immortal self.

And trust me, fellow Trumpers, if I saw him perpetuate his evil behavior on one of my children, I’d kick him right in his fiery ass.

But, let me ask you, would you rather have the horrific physical manifestation of calamity in office, or a freaking Democrat? The choice is easy, if you ask me.

Gormoth 2020: At least the physical manifestation of evil isn't Hillary!

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:36 am

Yikes.

https://twitter.com/randizuckerberg/sta ... 1561116672

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:37 am

Holman wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:58 am I try not to be intemperate here, but 2017 is a nightmare.

I'm watching my country destroyed along with everything it stands for. The future is being ruined right in front of my eyes, on purpose and with malice, by the greediest and least patriotic assholes who have ever held American power. That's hard to take. I've never been so pessimistic about the world my children will have to deal with.

If I've been unduly harsh with Rip, I shouldn't have been. But he has taken on the role on Trump apologist when MSD and Smutly and the rest of the MAGA crowd have slunk away into the MAGA-stinking night, so I suppose he knew the job was dangerous when he took it.

I identify with this far far too much. When I got married and adopted my daughter I was confident I could provide both with a good life. Now I worry about being able to provide them a sandwich next week.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:51 am

I never considered myself politically motivated or interested, and I would love to get back to that point. For 40 years I looked at politics as a choice between the lesser of two evils and though that was an asinine thing to get involved in. Now it's a choice between a boring, repetitive evil and the mother of all soul-sucking backwards monstrous evils and it's pretty easy to see why I should be involved.

My wife has asked me to block all news outlets on her computer and phone, as she can't stop checking the news daily and is constantly depressed and disgusted by the state of affairs in the US right now. She's at a point where she'd rather not know so she can retain some of her sanity.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:04 pm

Next year, you can just not pay for the News section of the data plan.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:25 pm

hepcat wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:49 am I really think we need a guide to what's acceptable for Rip. With his contribution, of course. We've already established that he's fine with:

1) Chick-fil-A
2) ...
3)...

Okay, so if Rip gets you all riled up, you may safely respond thusly:

Damn it, Rip! Why don't you go get some delicious chicken sandwiches! And maybe a side!

More to come from Rip himself, I hope.

Mountain Dew. I live on the stuff.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:29 pm

A little levity on such a fun day - remember Wu Tang Ain't Nothing to Fuk wit! And we will all be owners shortly hopefully!

https://twitter.com/davidmackau/status/ ... 3841619968

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:22 pm

Isgrimnur wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:04 pm Next year, you can just not pay for the News section of the data plan.