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Excellent point. See you in...November, is it?Alefroth wrote:Why bother with citizenship? What's one more out of 11 million?GreenGoo wrote:I'm thinking about obtaining American citizenship just so I can vote against Drumpf, if that tells you anything.
Better make it October so you can vote as often as possible.GreenGoo wrote:Excellent point. See you in...November, is it?Alefroth wrote:Why bother with citizenship? What's one more out of 11 million?GreenGoo wrote:I'm thinking about obtaining American citizenship just so I can vote against Drumpf, if that tells you anything.
Now you've got to build 2 walls.
We have to send Beiber back first.GreenGoo wrote:Excellent point. See you in...November, is it?Alefroth wrote:Why bother with citizenship? What's one more out of 11 million?GreenGoo wrote:I'm thinking about obtaining American citizenship just so I can vote against Drumpf, if that tells you anything.
Now you've got to build 2 walls.
Bring a taco truck.tgb wrote:We have to send Beiber back first.GreenGoo wrote:Excellent point. See you in...November, is it?Alefroth wrote:Why bother with citizenship? What's one more out of 11 million?GreenGoo wrote:I'm thinking about obtaining American citizenship just so I can vote against Drumpf, if that tells you anything.
Now you've got to build 2 walls.
But who'll take Ted Cruz?Rip wrote:Like I said once Donald wins we are doing a Crimea. We won't need a wall up there. We will keep the Canadian's we like and send the rest back to England and France.......
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/09 ... -migrants/Just two months after voting to leave the European Union (EU), the UK has announced the construction of a “great wall” near its most porous border in Calais, to keep illegal migrants out.
hepcat wrote:All that proves is that some people aren't smart enough to learn from the mistakes of others.
I'll believe it when I see it listed as a Wonder in Civ VII.Rip wrote:Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/09 ... -migrants/Just two months after voting to leave the European Union (EU), the UK has announced the construction of a “great wall” near its most porous border in Calais, to keep illegal migrants out.
How is that ironic?Rip wrote:A little ironic that the same people who call you a racist immigrant hater for opposing illegal immigration don't want to compare any walls/fences unless the use and size is exactly the same.
Right.Rip wrote:A little ironic that the same people who call you a racist immigrant hater for opposing illegal immigration don't want to compare any walls/fences unless the use and size is exactly the same.
My 16-year-old daughter, Tessa, was killed by an illegal immigrant in Virginia Beach three years ago while sitting at a stop light. Her friend Ali Kunhardt, 17, also perished instantly.
Beautiful girls with tons of future plans, they had just stopped at a convenience store for a pack of gum at 10 on a Friday night. I can imagine that they were giggling about something as they waited for the red light to turn green. Tessa was in the passenger seat. I’ll never forget her laugh.
The explosion was so loud that witnesses said it sounded like a bomb going off, hit from behind by a black Mitsubishi going more than 70 mph. They were tiny, skinny little girls stuffed somewhere in the floorboards when the police and EMT crew arrived.
When I got to the hospital in what seemed like a dream sequence, Tessa’s bed was lying next to Ali’s, separated by a privacy curtain. Both girls were perfectly still, skin cold to the touch.
Tess was covered with a hospital blanket, and her clothes lay in a bag by her bedside, cut off by the EMT and the ER doctor who tried to revive her, to no avail. I looked at her large brown eyes, pupils dilated, eyes wide open, staring at the ceiling. She still had a mask taped to her mouth with a long rubber tube. The center of the tube was filled with bright red blood. Amazingly, she had only a little bruise on her forehead, and her big toe was bleeding. I noticed that she had had a couple of her nails done with glitter, probably had just enough money to do two. She worked at the Golden Corral; Ali worked at The Fresh Market.
I hadn’t seen Tessa in a few days, and I had to laugh at her forearm. Hard to believe you can laugh with such horror around you, but I did. She had previously told me that she suffered from the “Tranchant curse” — dark hair on her skinny little perfect arms — and apparently she had shaved it all off (her way of getting even, I guess).
Alfredo Ramos, a previous DUI offender and alcoholic, seemed invisible in a system that was good at looking the other way. Virginia Beach and Chesapeake were being accused of being “sanctuary cities” as Bill O’Reilly and Geraldo Rivera screamed at each other during the national news hour. O’Reilly was right.
I know what sanctuary means more than most ever will.
Ramos was actually smug at the trial and took his lumps: 40 years in prison. There was nothing I could do but forgive him; forgiveness cleanses the soul. He was an uneducated foreigner patronized by local merchants who needed cheap labor.
Hundreds of thousands of illegals in Virginia do the same. We don’t share a border with Mexico, so the awareness here isn’t as great as Arizona or California.
But the dilemma in Arizona is more important to Virginians than it seems.
Tranchant said that when asked, Kaine’s office indicated that he was “not interested” in enforcing U.S. immigration law.
FTFYIsgrimnur wrote:Nice to know that stopping illegal immigration building an impractical wall will also solve our DUI problem.
That's not even coincidence, irony's closest relative.Rip wrote:It is ironic because immigration and illegal immigration are not even close to the same thing. I can be want to do everything possible to stop illegal immigration and still like legal immigration and not be racist at all.
Many of you like to talk about them as though they are the same thing, but then complain about a wall not being the same because one is RW than the other. Despite being used for the same purpose and being pretty effective at it.
In the end it doesn't much matter because in reality what the Tim Kaines of the world fear is that it will be effective. Because the don't want illegal aliens to go home.
The moment they round up someone who looks like you, you'll start bitching about the government going too far.Rip wrote:I want to kick out and prevent from entering ALL illegal immigrants. I don't give a crap what color their skin is.
Seems like making it harder for illegal immigrants to do things like get cars and drive them, and penalizing those who enable them, would be a much easier solution, if the problem is drunk illegal immigrants causing road fatalities.Archinerd wrote:FTFYIsgrimnur wrote:Nice to know that stopping illegal immigration building an impractical wall will also solve our DUI problem.
What does it mean to be a Republican?
For generations, the answer had been clear: A belief in individual liberty. Free markets. Strong national defense.
But what does it mean to be a Republican today? With Donald Trump as the party's new standard-bearer, it's impossible to say.
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Donald Trump is no Republican and certainly no conservative.
Individual liberty? Trump has displayed an authoritarian streak that should horrify limited-government advocates.
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Free markets? Economic conservatism? Ronald Reagan once said that "protectionism is destructionism." Trump, on the other hand, has called the Trans-Pacific Partnership "a rape of our country."
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Strong national defense? Trump pledges to make our military "so big, so powerful, so strong that nobody — absolutely nobody — is going to mess with us." But what does he want to do with that military? He says he supports killing the families of Muslim terrorists and allowing interrogation methods "a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding." And if the military balks at obeying such orders? "If I say do it, they're gonna do it," he says.
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It's not easy to offer a shorthand list of such tenets, since Trump flips from one side to the other, issue after issue, sometimes within a single news cycle. Regardless, his ideas are so far from Republicanism that they have spawned a new description: Trumpism.
We have no interest in a Republican nominee for whom all principles are negotiable, nor in a Republican Party that is willing to trade away principle for pursuit of electoral victory.
Trump doesn't reflect Republican ideals of the past; we are certain he shouldn't reflect the GOP of the future.
Donald Trump is not qualified to serve as president and does not deserve your vote.
It's fascinating to me that while Trump screams about building walls, immigrants taking our jobs, mass deportations, etc., there's never been a single peep about cracking down on the businesses that employ the illegal immigrants. Wouldn't that be step one?tgb wrote:I'll believe this country is serious about stopping illegal immigration when they start raiding Motel 6, Wal-Mart, and the kitchens of fine dining restaurants.
Why do you support job-killing regulation?Skinypupy wrote:It's fascinating to me that while Trump screams about building walls, immigrants taking our jobs, mass deportations, etc., there's never been a single peep about cracking down on the businesses that employ the illegal immigrants. Wouldn't that be step one?tgb wrote:I'll believe this country is serious about stopping illegal immigration when they start raiding Motel 6, Wal-Mart, and the kitchens of fine dining restaurants.
CNN reports that Donald Trump will tear up his media blacklist Thursday and extend credentials to The Washington Post, Politico, BuzzFeed and other news outlets previously barred from the press section at campaign events because of what the candidate deemed unfair coverage.
"I figure they can't treat me any worse!" Trump told CNN.
As a practical matter, the move doesn't change much. With few exceptions, reporters from blacklisted media companies have managed to cover Trump rallies by mingling with the crowd. But the Republican presidential nominee's olive branch could signal a new era of relative civility for the stretch run to Election Day.
Last week, the Trump campaign instituted a print pool that included in its rotation several news organizations on the blacklist. Trump running mate Mike Pence had suggested in July that he would push for the campaign to lift its ban on certain outlets after a Washington Post reporter was denied general admission to an event in Wisconsin.
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Trump has, however, scaled back the number of interviews he grants to TV networks other than Fox News in recent weeks, suggesting that there are limits to his new press openness.
I see you consulted with Alanis Morrissette on your irony analysis.Rip wrote:It is ironic because immigration and illegal immigration are not even close to the same thing. I can be want to do everything possible to stop illegal immigration and still like legal immigration and not be racist at all.
I wonder if he fancies himself the righteously wronged by the treachery of humanity Elrond from the movies. "Our list of allies grows thin, Gandalf."El Guapo wrote:USA Freedom Kids are officially suing Trump.
Hopefully their attorney is dealing from strength.
Seriously though, if Trump wins I might literally go insane. If being actively sued in federal court for fraud AND being sued by cute children for stiffing them AND attacking POWs AND everything else isn't enough to defeat him, it might unmoor my understanding of cause and effect in the universe.
It's a hardcore communist state - I'm not sure you get a check. You might get 'paid' in Kim Jong-un propaganda and Juche-related reading material.hepcat wrote:They should contract out to Kim Jong-un. At least he doesn't stiff people. You might get shot with a howitzer for wearing blue on a Tuesday, but the check will clear.