BSG VIII -Assassination. Another minor human victory.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:25 am

purge wrote:
Lassr - if a cylon sleeper is selected and killed by the cylons at night, would this trigger a conversion?

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Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:43 pm

I just submitted the following:

Shoot Purge
Scan Unagi

I think Purge is a solid choice. The scanning, is based on really the question of really wanting to disprove/prove Unagi. He's actually been pinging my radar for the the frist few days. Its only today that i feel more comfortable he's been human and not a toaster. I just want confirmation. If he is a cylon, great. If he is a human, awesome. I personally would feel better knowing i can trust him 100%

I chose him over theohall based on the fact...if they turn up human, who can add more to the conversation in terms of attending & analysis. Theohall is on vacation. Unagi is about and actively participating.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:43 pm

fyi i think stessier or Theohall are solid lynch targets.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:44 pm

Also, i am now running on the assumption that Saul is in fact dead, and could very well have been El Guapo. Just speculating, i would love to be wrong.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:04 pm

Newcastle wrote:Also, i am now running on the assumption that Saul is in fact dead, and could very well have been El Guapo. Just speculating, i would love to be wrong.

Saul is alive unless he was silently lynched, or lied to me on a chat.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:08 pm

And we will get all his scans and one more from him. Either from him directly or via Austin.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:21 pm

I would very much like to request that Saul scans BB2112, if he hasn't already.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:27 pm

Lassr,
On a night where Saul is killed, does he still get his scan. (and would be in a position to share it's results posthumously to a living Doc)?

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:29 pm

Oh yeah. Nevermind

Saul's is a day scan.

Saul. If you haven't. Please scan BB2112 today.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:46 pm

Summary assuming the shot goes off...
Austin - Day 1 declaration of being the Doc (proof: cylons would have no way to know if that was a safe fake, and he was never contested)
RMC - claimed Starbuck (proof: Never contested, and all night kills confirmed by Austin to not be special)
Newcastle - claimed Cain (proof: Never contested, and all night kills confirmed by Austin to not be special, plus - the shot...)
Unagi - scanned human by Cain (proof: via Newcastle)

Purge - shot by Cain (status: ??)

stessier - unknown
theohall - unknown
Qantaga - unknown
Revhempus71 - unknown
Scoop - unknown
bb2112 - unknown

One of the unknown is Saul.
One of the unknown is good-guy human
The other 4 are Cylons.

Saul, if you have any information on a human in the group of unknowns listed above. It may actually be good for you to come out now? Just a thought...

Like, if you know that bb2112 is human, and we get lucky on the purge shot, we could be done here.

pending this shot, of course. (I think maybe we should have actually shot stessier and lynched theohall today, just my 2

)

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:50 pm

i think stessier opened himself, and i think he's on his way to being lynched. I much rather kick over a couple of unknown rocks to help provide clarity to the situation.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:00 pm

2225

"Frak all this!" The outburst interrupted a debate between Revhempus and Stessier. Everyone looked at Newcastle, "Is there a problem?" Asked Purge. Newcastle approached Purge, "Yes, there is a big problem! All of you are idiots! Frakking idiots!" Newcastle looks Purge in the eyes, "and you are the biggest one of all!" Before Purge could react, a knife slides from the sleeve of Newcastle's uniforms. With a quick strike the blade penetrates Purge's throat. His eyes wide in shock, he falls to his knees then collapses face first onto the floor.
"Someone grab the BCD so we can identify this piece of shit as a frakking Cylon."
Everyone is staring in disbelief before Scoop reacts and grabs the BCD from the table. He holds it to purge's head and waits. After a while the until goes silent and then a small steady bleep could be heard on the BCD. Purge was Cylon.
BB2112 slips up behind Newcastle and grabs the knife from his hand. "I think we should put this away before you do that again."
Newcastle turns and looks at BB2112. If looks could kill, BB2112 would have dropped dead at that moment.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:01 pm

Unagi came out clean, he's a human.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:21 pm

Day 3
1 theohall ---------- bb2112 --- Unagi --- stessier --- Newcastle --- ---
2 Qantaga ---------- Newcastle --- --- --- --- ---
3 bb2112 ---------- Scoop --- theohall --- --- --- --- ---
4 Newcastle ---------- stessier --- Scoop --- Unagi --- Scoop --- Revhempus --- Qantaga --- theohall
5 Revhempus71 ---------- stessier --- Revhempus --- stessier --- theohall --- ---
6 RMC ---------- --- --- --- --- ---
7 Austin ---------- Newcastle --- theohall --- --- --- ---
8 Unagi ---------- stessier --- Scoop --- stessier --- --- ---
9 Scoop ---------- purge --- --- --- --- ---
10 stessier ---------- Revhempus --- theohall --- --- --- ---
.
.
theohall -- 2 --------- bb2112, stessier

stessier -- 1 ---------- Unagi
-- --------
-- ----------
-- ----------
-- ----------

Majority = 6
Deadline is: Monday, Feb 20th 9PM CST

tru1cy -------- strangled
Remus West -------- Put down
Grundbegriff ------- bashed
Chaosraven ------- self injected
El Guapo ------- screwed
Purge ------ Cained

purge · Post by **purge** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:54 pm

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:40 pm

i think stessier is a good lynch today....i didnt like his "go suck an egg bit"...but dont mind if folks chose to analyze and such more.

stessier

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:00 pm

Booyaah!!!! I can't believe I actually had Purge pegged from the start! One fraking skinjob down.

I will vote sometime today. Need to reread.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:19 pm

Nice job guys! Especially to you NC! It is nice to know Unagi now joins the ranks of the trusted.

Time for me to come out now that NC is proven. I am Saul. I've scanned Grund, Qantaga and Stess. Both Grund and Stess came back Human. Qantaga Is Ellen.

1 theohall ----------
2 Qantaga ---------- Ellen
3 bb2112 ---------- Saul
4 Newcastle ---------- Cain
5 Revhempus71 ----------
6 RMC ---------- Starbuck
7 Austin ---------- Doc
8 Unagi ---------- Trusted Human
9 Scoop ----------
10 stessier ---------- Trusted Human

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:00 pm

Nice shot Newcastle!

BB, is that the order of your scans?

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:03 pm

Qantaga

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:07 pm

Did anyone else just feel a big shift in something?

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:10 pm

Btw, I don't automatically take Bb's claim at face value, but Q will turn up cylon, or even the faker wouldn't have given it up.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:10 pm

any counter claims? any breadcrumbs BB?

lets see what happens...

and seriously....stessier...is human? seriously...but but btu btu...that cant be...i'm right..i'm always right!

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:14 pm

Wait. Before we jump on Q, I wanna think about tomorrow.

Starbuck protecting Bb2112 would protect him for another scan tomorrow and prove the Stessier scan, as long as Starbuck survives the protection part of her night.

I like that idea.

Next day, we can full trust Bb's scan tomorrow.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:17 pm

Day 3
1 theohall ---------- bb2112 --- Unagi --- stessier --- Newcastle --- ---
2 Qantaga ---------- Newcastle --- --- --- --- ---
3 bb2112 ---------- Scoop --- theohall --- --- --- --- --- ---
4 Newcastle ---------- stessier --- Scoop --- Unagi --- Scoop --- Revhempus --- Qantaga --- theohall --- stessier
5 Revhempus71 ---------- stessier --- Revhempus --- stessier --- theohall --- ---
6 RMC ---------- --- --- --- --- ---
7 Austin ---------- Newcastle --- theohall --- --- --- ---
8 Unagi ---------- stessier --- Scoop --- stessier --- Qantaga --- ---
9 Scoop ---------- purge --- --- --- --- ---
10 stessier ---------- Revhempus --- theohall --- --- --- ---
.
.
theohall -- 2 --------- bb2112, stessier
Qantaga -- 1 --------- Unagi
stessier -- 1 ---------- Newcastle
-- --------
-- ----------
-- ----------
-- ----------

Majority = 6
Deadline is: Monday, Feb 20th 9PM CST

tru1cy -------- strangled
Remus West -------- Put down
Grundbegriff ------- bashed
Chaosraven ------- self injected
El Guapo ------- screwed
Purge ------ Cained

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:18 pm

Why do think I scanned Stess? I didn't think he was human either, but I was wrong. I'm just glad you didn't scan him. I was still hoping you would scan Theo, but proving Unagi is not so bad.

Qantaga

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:21 pm

I clearly will put this back...
withdraw Qantaga

I just want to be sure we get everone checked in, and that we talk about what's next.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:21 pm

Unagi wrote:Wait. Before we jump on Q, I wanna think about tomorrow.

Starbuck protecting Bb2112 would protect him for another scan tomorrow and prove the Stessier scan, as long as Starbuck survives the protection part of her night.

I like that idea.

Next day, we can full trust Bb's scan tomorrow.

Right.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:31 pm

Newcastle wrote:any counter claims? any breadcrumbs BB?

lets see what happens...

and seriously....stessier...is human? seriously...but but btu btu...that cant be...i'm right..i'm always right!

I had the same reaction about your Unagi scan.. I was tempted to attribute it to the virus initially...

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:39 pm

Summary where in bb2112 is Saul
Austin - Day 1 declaration of being the Doc (proof: cylons would have no way to know if that was a safe fake, and he was never contested)
RMC - claimed Starbuck (proof: Never contested, and all night kills confirmed by Austin to not be special)
Newcastle - claimed Cain (proof: Never contested, and all night kills confirmed by Austin to not be special, plus - the shot...)
Unagi - scanned human by Cain (proof: via Newcastle)
bb2112 claimed Saul (proof: Never contested, gave up a Cylon)
stessier - scanned human by Saul (unfraking believable)

Purge - shot by Cain (status: cylon #1)
Qantaga - scanned cylon by Saul (status: cylon #2)

two cylons, 1 human
theohall - seems likely... his position on the Newcastle vote, and the other votes - and his lead on the "Remus,CR,BB" conspiracy
Revhempus71 - was keen on grabbing Newcastle and stessier here.
Scoop - was big on pushing Purge as a target (points for human)

So.

What would happen if we let Ellen do her thing tonight. And we lynched theohall today.

If he is human, we know who the three cylons are. Rev, Scoop, and Qantaga.

If he is cylon, tomorrow we have to pick the human from Rev or Scoop. RMC can protect one of them.

If RMC is alive, then he can tell us who is human.
If RMC is dead, Austic can ask how he died.
If RMC was attacked in the night, then bb2112 can tell us via a scan of {Rev|Scoop} and tell us how to lynch tomorrow.

Looks like a good idea - BUT.

does Ellen through that all off. Does her sleeping with RMC - then make RMC not protect anyone (no test), and then they kill Saul,unguarded - who would have nothing new to tell Austin in the morning.

I wonder if they already tried to sleep with RMC.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:47 pm

Newcastle wrote:and seriously....stessier...is human? seriously...but but btu btu...that cant be...

Unagi grabs the realtime thermal imager from Newcastle and holds it up against stessier.

"He's right guys, the BTUs are off the charts on stessier"

Unagi runs over to stessier and rips open his jacket. The inside is filled with dozens of little elastic straps holding small little steel canisters.

"He's fraking loaded !!!!!", yells Unagi!

Everyone hits the deck as stessier twists away from Unagi's grip of his jacket annoyed.

"Relax everyone", says stessier.

He reaches into his jacket and reveals one of the small canisters. He unscrews the top and takes a big gulp of the liquid contents inside.

"It's my hot cider jacket."

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:06 pm

I think we off Qantaga; when all is said and done Ellen is a massive threat to Starbuck and Saul's existence.

Been thinking bout the sleeping Cylon, and i think they are a massive threat to us. What if the cylons already have woken them up? What if it was Purge? What would the sleeping Cylon's power be? How would they wake em up?

Bottom line is this: we have to expect to be playing w/ 3 cylons, not 2. We should expect the 4th human-cylon to be an exploding one.

Kind of my reasoning I say this, is that I think my powers are kind of uber, and I'd think that there would have to be a counterbalancing on the Cylon side.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:06 pm

Interesting Day 1 intersection with purge and theohall, here.

In the end (a bit further down the page, after purge is up to 5 votes), it looks as if theohall steps in to stop the train he accidentally started on purge, but didn't actually take his vote off until later.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:10 pm

Newcastle wrote: I'd think that there would have to be a counterbalancing on the Cylon side.

that was probably just having me and stessier in the game.

(I tend to agree with that we should take Ellen now, if we have her)

The math looks good for us, I think.

We have a great number of trusted players. (I really have no idea why they never got the doc killed).

You could be right about a zerker.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:14 pm

We have 6 trusted.

We need to find 2 wolves in a group of 3. There can be only 1 miss.

Worst Case - they BOTH are zerkers and we miss halfway through finding them all...

5 trusted in the morning (assuming they kill a trusted tonight) (2 wolves)
We kill a zerker.
3 trusted the next morning. (1 wolf)
We miss.
2 trusted the next morning (1 wolf)
We would kill the last cylon, who would then zerker on 1 of em. Humans win.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:12 am

I say we take Ellen out today. If RMC chooses to protect me tonight, I get a scan tomorrow. I can scan Theo or Rev. I still think it is Theo, but whatever. Having 6 trusted, 1 cylon dead, and 1 cylon identified, puts us in the drivers seat I would think.

I wonder what was said on the cylon forum when I said shoot Q, scan Purge and lynch Theo.

RevHempus71 · Post by **RevHempus71** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:27 am

bb2112 wrote:Nice job guys! Especially to you NC! It is nice to know Unagi now joins the ranks of the trusted.

Time for me to come out now that NC is proven. I am Saul. I've scanned Grund, Qantaga and Stess. Both Grund and Stess came back Human. Qantaga Is Ellen.

1 theohall ----------
2 Qantaga ---------- Ellen
3 bb2112 ---------- Saul
4 Newcastle ---------- Cain
5 Revhempus71 ----------
6 RMC ---------- Starbuck
7 Austin ---------- Doc
8 Unagi ---------- Trusted Human
9 Scoop ----------
10 stessier ---------- Trusted Human

From this list of BB2112's Would mean That Scoop, Theo and Qantaga are the badguys. Not to the Rest of you but to me. I know I am human. So IF bb is Saul The cylons are caught. Now it is up to you all to come to your conclusions about the list.

For Now I am operating on the info from Newcasle, The scanned Unagi, and I still mostly trust Austin and RMC.

What do you provens think. If BB is who he says he is, lynch me today. This will give pretty much 100% Identity of the 3 remaining cylons. I am not the math guy here, but I am sure lynching a human today will not cost us the game. More likely clinch it for us.

RevHempus71 · Post by **RevHempus71** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:58 am

I should have read a little further before my last post. I never thought of a zerker. Now I sound like I want to get lynched.

I am just saying That Based BB's info the 3 cylons are Qantaga(ellen?), 2 others between Scoop, Theo and I.
From my perspective: I will never be a night kill. If Q is Ellen I believe we Start there. Then you have just 3 possible targets left.

BB2112, if you are Saul.

.....

Come tomorrow I will be voteing for Scoop. Day after Theo.

RevHempus71 · Post by **RevHempus71** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:59 am

oh yeah, Qantaga

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:11 am

The biggest mistake the cylons made was not drugging me. If you have 3 doses, you use all three; why save them?

Qantaga