Octopus Overlords

McNutt wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:45 pm I still think that's terrible though

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:36 pm Considering that Allen married his adopted daughter, I'm not sure he gets much benefit of the doubt.

GreenGoo wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:55 pm Why is Allen's marriage legal?

McNutt wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:59 pm But back to your point, Hepcat. I think we disagree that Mia is a more sympathetic figure in this.

McNutt wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:03 pm That's pretty creepy

McNutt wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:45 pm terrible

McNutt wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:03 pm pretty creepy

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:36 pm Considering that Allen married his adopted daughter, I'm not sure he gets much benefit of the doubt.

GreenGoo wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:21 am If I understand the Allen situation correctly, he had a fling with partner's adult adopted daughter to which he had no blood or legal relationship to prior and then married her decades later is that correct?

I've read the wiki page and it sounds like an affair between an older man and a younger woman. If she wasn't Farrow's adopted daughter this wouldn't even be noteworthy. They did not marry for almost 20 years after their initial "fling", but now have 2 adopted children.

It's extremely hard to tell what, if anything, inappropriate (in #metoo terms, clearly society doesn't approve of cheating on your partner) occurred. Considering they have been married for 20 years now and have raised 2 children, I`m loathe to start mucking around in their personal lives now, 30+ years after the fact. I try not to judge where and now people find happiness.

McNutt wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:39 am i believe Dylan herself believes Allen molested her. I also think Mia Farrow was mad enough to drill it into her seven-year-old's head that she was molested. Kids can be made to believe something happened if they were told enough times that it happened.

Again, I'm not saying it didn't happen, but there's enough doubt for me to not presume guilt.

Remus West wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:29 am Allen has been accused of abuse by his bio daughter from a young age. The adopted daughter marriage just adds another layer of creepy to the whole thing.

McNutt wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:44 am You'd think with the way I keep jumping to his defense that I'm a fan of his work. Oddly enough I've only mildly liked a few of his movies. His comedies were not my cup of tea.

McNutt wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:00 pm I believe his only biological kid is Ronan and I seriously doubt he's actually the father.

Remus West wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:42 pm My fault. Dylan is not a bio kid. She has accused him of assault though. As noted, that accusation is where the vast majority of the anti-Woody Allen discussion starts.

Scuzz wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:56 pm Is it really societies job to be judge and jury over everyone?

McNutt wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:44 am You'd think with the way I keep jumping to his defense that I'm a fan of his work. Oddly enough I've only mildly liked a few of his movies. His comedies were not my cup of tea.

Holman wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:08 pm

Scuzz wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:56 pm Is it really societies job to be judge and jury over everyone?

Not really, but you can't pursue celebrity and then complain about attention.

Remus West wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:42 pm My fault. Dylan is not a bio kid. She has accused him of assault though. As noted, that accusation is where the vast majority of the anti-Woody Allen discussion starts.

Holman wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:08 pm

Scuzz wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:56 pm Is it really societies job to be judge and jury over everyone?

Not really, but you can't pursue celebrity and then complain about attention.

The “Charles in Charge” alum appeared on NBC News’ “Megyn Kelly Today” on Tuesday to share her sexual assault allegations against her former costar, who she alleges began molesting her when she was 14.

Eggert, 46, said she previously lied about the nature of their relationship and became “really good at covering up” what happened to her.

Baio, 57, who was in his 20s when he played Eggert’s nanny on the 1980s sitcom, denied her story and accused Eggert of damaging his reputation. He called her allegations “100% lies” before issuing a full rebuttal on his Facebook page on Sunday.

Three former employees of the famed Cato Institute say they were sexually harassed by Ed Crane, the 73-year-old co-founder and president emeritus of the think tank and one of the most recognizable figures in the libertarian movement.

Politico.com wrote:SAN FRANCISCO — California Assemblywoman Cristina Garcia — whose high-profile advocacy of the #MeToo movement earned her national media notice — is herself the subject of a state legislative investigation in the wake of a report that she sexually harassed and groped a former legislative staffer.

In December, when Time magazine announced that “Silence Breakers” who spoke out against sexual harassment were its Persons of the Year, Garcia’s face was prominently included in the art accompanying the cover story.

But Daniel Fierro of Cerritos told POLITICO that in 2014, as a 25-year-old staffer to Assemblyman Ian Calderon, he was groped by Garcia, a powerful Democratic lawmaker who chairs the Legislative Women’s Caucus and the Natural Resources Committee.

He said she cornered him alone after the annual Assembly softball game in Sacramento as he attempted to clean up the dugout. Fierro, who said Garcia appeared inebriated, said she began stroking his back, then squeezed his buttocks and attempted to touch his crotch before he extricated himself and quickly left.

Fierro said he never reported the incident, which occurred years before the current #MeToo movement and new whistleblower legislation to protect legislative staffers. But after he mentioned the issue last January to Calderon, his former boss, the matter was then referred to the Assembly Rules Committee, which launched an investigation.

Fierro is not the only one claiming improper advances by Garcia. A prominent Sacramento lobbyist says she also accosted him in May 2017, when she cornered him, made a graphic sexual proposal, and tried to grab his crotch at a political fundraiser. He spoke to POLITICO on the condition of anonymity out of fear of reprisals.

The lobbyist, who represents a major industry association, said that Garcia appeared to have been drinking heavily at a fundraiser hosted by Governor Jerry Brown for state Senator Josh Newman at the de Veres bar in Sacramento. He said he was heading out the door in part to avoid the assemblywoman — who had been increasingly “flirtatious” and had called him on a few occasions before for late night drinks which he repeatedly declined.

She spotted him and said,“Where are you going?” the lobbyist said.

“She came back and was whispering real close and I could smell the booze and see she was pretty far gone,’’ he said. “She looked at me for a second and said, “I’ve set a goal for myself to fuck you.”

At that point, Garcia “stepped in front of me and reaches out and is grabbing for my crotch,’’ he said. That was “the line in the sand,” according to the lobbyist, and he stopped her. “I was four inches from her, eyeball to eyeball -- and I said, ‘That ain’t gonna happen.’”

The accusations against Garcia come at the close of months of high-profile activism on the issue of sexual harassment by the assemblywoman, who became one of Sacramento’s leading voices on #MeToo issue.

Scuzz wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:18 pm I read about her yesterday. It sounds like she has a serious alcohol problem.

And I would bet she doesn't consider what she does harassment.

GreenGoo wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:02 pmLobbyists aren't people.

Paingod wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:11 pm

GreenGoo wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:02 pmLobbyists aren't people.

I thought they were the "adult" form of larval Politicians and Lawyers.