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They never really had any, but this is easily the most explicit example that they don't care about who represents them, as long as they think it will help them. It seems unlikely that there has been a more sinful, godless man in the office, and he's the one that gets a mulligan? Because he's so deserving of it? Because of his contrition?hepcat wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:09 pm Evangelicals have lost any right to claim moral high ground in the future. They’ve shown themselves to be hypocritical opportunists without any scruples.
We had to destroy the village in order to save it.hepcat wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:09 pm Evangelicals have lost any right to claim moral high ground in the future. They’ve shown themselves to be hypocritical opportunists without any scruples.
Eventually?GreenGoo wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:20 pmThey never really had any, but this is easily the most explicit example that they don't care about who represents them, as long as they think it will help them. It seems unlikely that there has been a more sinful, godless man in the office, and he's the one that gets a mulligan? Because he's so deserving of it? Because of his contrition?hepcat wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:09 pm Evangelicals have lost any right to claim moral high ground in the future. They’ve shown themselves to be hypocritical opportunists without any scruples.
Conservative Christians are moving a little closer to the scientologist category with every election. Eventually they will simply be a political organization with a veneer of godliness covering the warts.
I wonder which votes McConnell has scheduled for her due date.Defiant wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:04 am Tammy Duckworth is pregnant; will be 1st senator to give birth
While I love following pro-life logic here, tragically the fetus is not yet old enough to be a Senator (30 years).
Life begins at oocytogenesis!El Guapo wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:02 amWhile I love following pro-life logic here, tragically the fetus is not yet old enough to be a Senator (30 years).
I miss the days when all a religious group could do was accuse you of witchcraft and get you burned or stoned.Remus West wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:22 amEventually?GreenGoo wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:20 pmThey never really had any, but this is easily the most explicit example that they don't care about who represents them, as long as they think it will help them. It seems unlikely that there has been a more sinful, godless man in the office, and he's the one that gets a mulligan? Because he's so deserving of it? Because of his contrition?hepcat wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:09 pm Evangelicals have lost any right to claim moral high ground in the future. They’ve shown themselves to be hypocritical opportunists without any scruples.
Conservative Christians are moving a little closer to the scientologist category with every election. Eventually they will simply be a political organization with a veneer of godliness covering the warts.
I miss the days when religious groups would at least pretend they were adhering to the tenets of their own mythology.hepcat wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:28 pmI miss the days when all a religious group could do was accuse you of witchcraft and get you burned or stoned.Remus West wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:22 amEventually?GreenGoo wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:20 pmThey never really had any, but this is easily the most explicit example that they don't care about who represents them, as long as they think it will help them. It seems unlikely that there has been a more sinful, godless man in the office, and he's the one that gets a mulligan? Because he's so deserving of it? Because of his contrition?hepcat wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:09 pm Evangelicals have lost any right to claim moral high ground in the future. They’ve shown themselves to be hypocritical opportunists without any scruples.
Conservative Christians are moving a little closer to the scientologist category with every election. Eventually they will simply be a political organization with a veneer of godliness covering the warts.
Ewww. I am sure that Spicer will be calling on the RNC folk to return any of his donations soon. The modern RNC ladies and gentlemen.El Guapo wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:10 pm Not sure where to put this, BUT:
Steve Wynn (Finance Chair of RNC) accused of sexual harassment by dozens of women.
Sounds pretty grim.
In a moment of woeful irony in the Obama-administration documentary “The Final Year,” UN Ambassador Samantha Power travels to Cameroon to offer photo-op comfort to families terrorized by Boko Haram — only to have her motorcade kill a 7-year-old boy.
Greg Barker, the director of this fan film, does his best to downplay the accident: It is discussed while we watch a clip of Power’s convoy moving at a crawl when in fact it was reportedly traveling at over 60 miles an hour when it struck the boy.
Despite Barker’s intentions, the handiwork of the Road to Hell Paving Co. is obvious. Team Obama, with its let’s-hug-it-out attitude to world conflict, left a bloody trail.
“The Final Year,” which is playing on a few screens ahead of its debut on HBO in May, drew notice for a scene in Power’s apartment on Election Night 2016. She invited the camera crew to film her party with the world’s 37 female ambassadors to toast the inevitable Hillary Clinton landslide. Power’s fist-pumping as she watches the election returns turns to blanching, but it’s Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes who has the most amusing reaction to Donald Trump’s victory.
Asked whether a Trump administration might endanger his accomplishments, he says, “I’ve never really considered that.” So what does the speechwriter and former aspiring novelist have to say when Trump wins? “I mean, uh, I can’t even [long pause] I can’t, I ca - - [long pause] I mean I, I can’t, I can’t, I can’t put it into words. I don’t know what the words are.”
“The Final Year,” though, is chiefly a study of Obama-administration foreign policy as overseen by Secretary of State John Kerry, Power and Rhodes. The foreign-policy masters see their three accomplishments as the Paris Climate Accord, the opening to Cuba and the Iran deal.
Given that the former was nonbinding and later dumped by President Trump, while the other two amounted to making concessions to American foes in exchange for virtually nothing, this is a bit like bragging that you suckered the Franklin Mint into giving up a souvenir Elvis plate for only $34.95.
But to understand why Rhodes and Obama are so pleased with their foreign policy, you have to understand the way they think. The documentary is revealing about that.
Naïvety, meet arrogance. These were the guiding forces behind the Rhodes-Obama foreign policy. The arrogance came in thinking that all previous administrations were too thick to come up with this awesome idea Rhodes had: Military force is bad.
No one figured this out before Ben Rhodes. “In Washington,” he says, “there is a kind of default that we’ve been trying to break. Which is that the way in which we demonstrate that we’re serious about a problem is by using military force.”
This, the film backs with images of the bombing of Laos during the Vietnam War. In a Rhodes-written speech, Obama is seen saying, “We must change our mindset about war itself. To prevent conflict through diplomacy.” It’s like the old Monty Python lesson about how to play the flute: It’s easy. You just blow in one end, then move your fingers up and down over the holes.
Actual events don’t align with the Rhodes-Obama rhetoric. Vladimir Putin, frustratingly, keeps failing to be bent by the Arc of History(™) and doing whatever he wants, seizing Crimea and abetting Bashar al-Assad.
“The error that we may have made is Putin doesn’t seem to pursue Russia’s national interests. He pursues Putin’s interests,” Rhodes says. In other words, surprise! — Putin doesn’t share a liberal American Democrat’s vision about what’s best for Russia.
Kerry, after Russia breaks the ceasefire in Aleppo in 2016: “It’s just so frustrating because we really had an agreement that could have worked. And unfortunately we have some people who didn’t want to cooperate.”
The Arrogant Obama stuff cracks my shit up. One, you have to be arrogant to believe you can be the leader of the free world. Second, Trump. Third, Iraq anybody?Zarathud wrote:So it's GOOD that we upgraded from "arrogance" to bumbling incompetence" or even "foreign collusion" with a side of warmongering?
Right, Rip? Or are you just being a Nihilist?
Yeah, you say that but why isn't Clinton in jail for working with Russians. People are dead.hepcat wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:50 am You realize Obama isn’t the president any more, right?
But your continued teeth gnashing and butt hurt over the previous two term adult leader is amusing, I must say.
Too bad it has to come with laughing over the death of a young boy.hepcat wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:50 am You realize Obama isn’t the president any more, right?
But your continued teeth gnashing and butt hurt over the previous two term adult leader is amusing, I must say.
The Weinstein scandal put Hollywood’s hypocrisy in broad daylight. RT if you agree the DNC should return his donations.
Hillary tweeting this response to the story:Hillary Clinton decided not to fire a senior adviser on her 2008 presidential campaign who had been accused of sexual harassment, against the recommendation of her campaign manager, two sources who worked on the 2008 campaign tell CNN.
A female campaign staffer had accused Clinton's faith adviser, Burns Strider, of harassment that included inappropriate touching, kissing her forehead and sending her suggestive emails, the sources said. The woman shared an office with Strider.
After hearing of the complaint, Clinton campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle and other senior aides urged Clinton to fire Strider, but Clinton declined to dismiss him and kept him on for the rest of her failed run for the Democratic nomination, the sources said.
when you hear this is what happened as a result of the complaint:"A story appeared today about something that happened in 2008. I was dismayed when it occurred, but was heartened the young woman came forward, was heard, and had her concerns taken seriously and addressed," she tweeted.
"I called her today to tell her how proud I am of her and to make sure she knows what all women should: we deserve to be heard."
Shocking no one the sexual harassment training didn't help:The woman was moved out of the office where she had been working with Strider, one source said, and the faith adviser was punished by having his pay docked for several weeks, having his title changed and being required to undergo sexual harassment training.
Once again, Hillary comes across as an opportunist politician who will stick by allies regardless of how shady they are.After the 2008 campaign, Strider was tasked to lead Correct the Record, an independent group that looked to rebut claims about Clinton as she prepared for her 2016 presidential run. The group was created by David Brock, a longtime Clinton ally.
Strider was later fired from the organization, however, after a series of issues, including allegations that he harassed multiple female staffers in person and over email, two sources with knowledge of his departure told CNN.
regardless of how shady they are?Moliere wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:03 am Clinton kept adviser on 2008 campaign despite sexual harassment allegation
Hillary tweeting this response to the story:Hillary Clinton decided not to fire a senior adviser on her 2008 presidential campaign who had been accused of sexual harassment, against the recommendation of her campaign manager, two sources who worked on the 2008 campaign tell CNN.
A female campaign staffer had accused Clinton's faith adviser, Burns Strider, of harassment that included inappropriate touching, kissing her forehead and sending her suggestive emails, the sources said. The woman shared an office with Strider.
After hearing of the complaint, Clinton campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle and other senior aides urged Clinton to fire Strider, but Clinton declined to dismiss him and kept him on for the rest of her failed run for the Democratic nomination, the sources said.
when you hear this is what happened as a result of the complaint:"A story appeared today about something that happened in 2008. I was dismayed when it occurred, but was heartened the young woman came forward, was heard, and had her concerns taken seriously and addressed," she tweeted.
"I called her today to tell her how proud I am of her and to make sure she knows what all women should: we deserve to be heard."
Shocking no one the sexual harassment training didn't help:The woman was moved out of the office where she had been working with Strider, one source said, and the faith adviser was punished by having his pay docked for several weeks, having his title changed and being required to undergo sexual harassment training.
Once again, Hillary comes across as an opportunist politician who will stick by allies regardless of how shady they are.After the 2008 campaign, Strider was tasked to lead Correct the Record, an independent group that looked to rebut claims about Clinton as she prepared for her 2016 presidential run. The group was created by David Brock, a longtime Clinton ally.
Strider was later fired from the organization, however, after a series of issues, including allegations that he harassed multiple female staffers in person and over email, two sources with knowledge of his departure told CNN.
I hate 'em all, too, but this thing about Hillary's advisor seems like much ado about very little. Assuming that this was the only incident known about, his punishment seems meaningful for a first offense. I think if it happened today, the guy would get fired immediately and be effectively blackballed from politics, but that's more the result of the current attitude. In 2008, that more was done than just sweeping it under the rug seems significant.Moliere wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:22 pm I love how all criticism of Hillary or Obama is somehow interpreted as giving Trump a pass. As a libertarian I can know my candidate will not win and therefore speak self-righteously condemning both sides as scumbag politicians who care more about winning an election than the people they purport to help.
Its more than that right now though as it is being used as a screen to empower Trump. It is a "look how bad she was but ignore everything else". The only reason they even talk about HRC any longer is to distract the base from the huge disaster the current situation is. If they stop focusing on the Clinton's they might start to look at how Trump is actually going to impact them long term.ImLawBoy wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:35 pmI hate 'em all, too, but this thing about Hillary's advisor seems like much ado about very little. Assuming that this was the only incident known about, his punishment seems meaningful for a first offense. I think if it happened today, the guy would get fired immediately and be effectively blackballed from politics, but that's more the result of the current attitude. In 2008, that more was done than just sweeping it under the rug seems significant.Moliere wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:22 pm I love how all criticism of Hillary or Obama is somehow interpreted as giving Trump a pass. As a libertarian I can know my candidate will not win and therefore speak self-righteously condemning both sides as scumbag politicians who care more about winning an election than the people they purport to help.
gilraen wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:50 pm I'm much more bothered by the fact that a presidential candidate in the 21st century needs a "faith adviser" but that's just me.
